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niejestemcapita

They should go home to their own nations to get married. To be honest, there is nothing worse than somebody getting married or giving birth just to stay in a country.

People who do this are the lowest of the low.

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scarbyirp

Socialist Spain and Germany do the same both countries have paid foreigners to come home once they understand that they cannot come back for up to five years. You are not permanent residents in my nation, you are guest workers. No work, go home.

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Why not marry and settle in Poland or Mexico?

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daffy

Ireland for all? Cop the fook on. We cannot absorb the world. We need the unemployed eastern euros to go home. One TD suggested paying them to return to their own nations. But we would they? Polands foooked too.

youtube.com/watch?v=zNC-Jj3WOjA

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ZIMMY

Ireland for the Irish. ;)

BritishEmpire

I pay them two euro more than other bars in the area. They are allowed a few beves after work if they so wish, sweat beers. Meals are also provided for those working over four hours. They can order from the menu once they do not take the ****. Hardly exploitation is it.

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Kapusta

As I said it is a hobby not a business investment. You would want to be mad to invest in Spain. I created jobs for locals in Spain and pay them well above other bars in the area. I am not in it for profit. Myself and my cousin went in on it with two Spanish friends who run the bar for 365 days a year.

I plough profits back into the bar as it is my pride and joy. Eventually I will buy a couple of bars in Dublin. This is a learning curve for me, my apprenticeship, if you will.

I do not know how you can compare this to Polish shops in Ireland, its absurd.

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irishdeano

No, four of us pooled our money together to purchase the bar at a very good price. It is more of a hobby than anything else. I only go over every second month. You are more than welcome to visit it if you are ever in Benalmadena. Two of the other owners are Spanish. It is an Irish bar in name only.

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Ireland32

I own a bar in Malaga. I employ locals only.

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We needed Polish workers to come here and work in Polish shops?

We had 150,000 on the scracther, we should have cut their welfare and made them work. No need for eastern europeans.

IrishDeano

I oppose all fraud. But coming to another country to live off the taxpayer is taking the ****. Just out of interest, is it not true that a foreigner in Poland needs to have worked there for ten years before they can claim welfare? Fair play if true.

The Irish social welfare system was won by Irish unions, it was a safety net for Irish citizens who fell on hard times. Now it seems it is a fishing net for eastern europeans and one particular african country. Welfare will be cut in the next budget. Another consequence of mass immigration. Another loss for the Irish worker.

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irishdeano

Some more so than others. We went from bust to boom in a matter of months. Our insane immigration policies(sic) did not cause it, but it certainly did not help.

With a controlled immigration policy, like Austria and Germany, we would not have 80,000 foreigners on the dole.

80,000(50,000) of which are Poles on 204 euro a week! Madness.

50,000 X 204= 10,200,000 euro.

530,400,000 euro per annum to be precise. Add to that rent allowance, medical cards, childrens allowance etc etc and you get the picture.

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Kapusta

Ireland does not owe the world a living. You were tolerated when times where good. Now, with Ireland in the grips of recession you are not needed here anymore. You where guest workers. Ireland the UK and Sweden were the only EU countries who opened our labour markets to you eastern europeans. What happened in Ireland was one of the largest immigration of cheap labour ever seen in post war times. It has changed the fabric of Irish society forever. It has been a sheer disaster as a whole.

The only reason Poles are employed over Irish is because they are cheaper. Big business needed cheap labour and Fianna Fail where happy to provide it. The builders and property developers needed cheap labour to continue the property bubble, bring in eastern europeans get them to build cavity blocks from one end of the island to another, and then rent them said cavity blocks. It nearly worked too!

Now, Irish people are happily taking any jobs so the Poles are no longer needed. Instead, they are going on the dole in massive numbers. 38% of all workers in Ireland do not pay taxes. This would include most immigrants, therefore this myth that you are entitled to welfare is patently false. You worked here for three years or so paying very little into the system bar a couple of euro in PRSI each month. As a whole, Poles are a burden on the state. 50,000 on the dole. 1.5 billion sent home. Over 125 million spent on teaching foreign kids english. Over 3,000 Polish on rent allowance each month.

Ever hear the term importing poverty? Well that is what Ireland has just done, we have imported poverty from eastern europe. Our dole spongers are a problem I agree, but importing eastern europeans to keep them company in the dole offices across the country is hardly a sound policy is it?

I could touch on the social issues of mass immigration........but I would be here all night.

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Ironside

Get your compatriots out of my country and I will happily.

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The site was finished last week. I did not set it up.

SeanBM

I do not care for you one way or the other, just another traitor to the Irish nation. I hope you stay in your slavic paradise.

IrishDeano

Could you not get a decent Irish girl?

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Ireland32

Post up Sinn Feins economic policies(sic) please. I need a laugh. Tax the rich, tax the rich and then tax them again.

SeanBM

What about it you self loathing loon?

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I have, I have been to Poland. Nice place. Missing a couple of hundred thousand Poles though. ;)

SeanBM

It worries me that you are allowed roam free. I think you are a tad mad.

Polskis

Remember this, Irelands foooked. Better off staying or going home. Best of luck. Peace.

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irishdeano

Its a Sunday. I may return during the week. I am from West Dublin and we have little or no integration here. In fact, anyone I speak with wants to ship the slavs back.

Also, foreigners can only vote in local elections. If they are EU citizens they can vote in European elections. Only Irish and British citizens resident here can vote in General Elections and Referendums. You have no clue of the political system in Ireland.

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Yes a couple of thousand. Hardly earth shattering is it?

Irish people who never emigrated can complain if they wish. We are a sovereign nation.

Kapusta

I give to you amhrannua.com

Unlike the Shinner, Brits Out Poles In, we never killed anyone! Pro-active indeed.

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Grzegorz_
I would say there is easily 200,000 Poles here. 50,000 of which are on the dole.

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irishdeano

Poles and other foreigners will have no say in the matter. Only Irish citizens can vote in referendums.

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Seanus

By going against the wishes of the Irish people? Thats not earning his bread, that is selling out the country. There is a word for it. ;)

Ireland32

Dream of that United Ireland, mo chara. If you Shinners get your way we will be a minority in our own country. Whats the point of a United country when the majority of people residing it will be foreigners?

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Ironside

Show me how they are a net benefit on the Irish economy. My facts are all from reliable sources.

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Ireland32

How many seats did you win? What was the net gain? We both know the answer to that. Sinn Fein lost more seats than they gained.

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Ireland32

Then why the poor perfomance in the 2007 General elections? Why the poor performance in the locals two weeks ago? Why did they lose their MEP seat? Why are they polling at 7% while all the other parties are eating into Fianna Fails percentage. Why is the party in decline.

I will tell you why as their core voters, the working class, have been sold out by Sinn Fein by their support of 3rd world and eastern european immigration.

Was it not Adams who said "They are Irish if they are here for four months or four hundred years!"

Sinn Fein is dead in the south.

SeanBM

I have explained this to you now three times. Is it that hard to understand. Here is the article,
archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2008/06/22/story33891.asp

Once the ballot boxes were opened, the issue of migrant workers became 'the elephant in the room' that few politicians had wished to confront before the referendum.

''It was definitely there, but nobody really wanted to talk about it," conceded Fine Gael deputy Leo Varadkar. ''A lot of left-wing campaigns stirred the immigration pot, some deliberately and some unwittingly," he said

rgemonitor.com/euro-monitor/252779/why_did_ireland_vote_no_to_the_lisbon_treaty

It is also plausible that part of the No vote relates to a lack of comfort with the very high levels of immigration from the new members states over the last five years. While the immigration flows were broadly welcomed during the boom years, the current slowdown in the Irish economy means that there is greater competition for jobs and more pressure on wage rates in construction and services sectors, which may have prompted an anti-Europe vote in some quarters.

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ShelleyS

My quarrell is with mass immigration from Eastern Europe. I have no problem with others settling in Ireland at reasonable numbers.

Tell you what, when you give is Northern Ireland back we can return the people you planted here as a swap for the Irish over in the UK, many of whom who emigrated there when Ireland was still part of the UK. Only fair. You cannot colonise half the world and complain when the natives decide to move to the UK.

ZIMMY

Never happen, my children will be Irish, not slavic.

Ireland32

Your beloved parties support for mass immigration has caused it to slump and die in the south. Sinn Fein Brits Out Poles In!

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SeanBM

Look, happy, care to refute any of the facts I brought to this forum or are you just going to resort to personal attacks. If so, I will leave and return to gloat when welfare entitlements and access to our open labour marker are taken away from the accession states.

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SeanBM

It is a poxy internet forum of Poles and Irish traitors. Unite you? And what will you achieve?

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SeanBM

It is very easy to turn the Irish against mass immigration from eastern europe.

The facts speak for themselves. Ignore them if you will, but you cannot refute them. Recessions are like kryptonite to mass immigration. It is human nature.

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SeanBM

Let us say you are off your head.

Let us say you are a disgrace to every Irishman and women that has ever lived and those who are yet to be born.

Let us say nobody refuted my claims that Poles are a drain on the economy(backed up with facts).

Let us say we should scrap the free movement of labour and issue a work permit scheme.

Let us say my work here is done. Let us say I have delved into the minds of my enemies and I now more than ever want Ireland free of them.

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SeanBM

Your strength? What strength? The only reason you support mass immigration is because it was the only way you would get your rock and roll.

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Ireland32

The M50 was built before 2005. Seriously, the Irish as a hard working as anybody.

Another sell out for a bit of foreign muff. Castle Catholics, if you will.