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Sokrates   
21 Oct 2009
News / BNP far right in Poland [116]

So he is a traditionalist catholic. Do you know if they are accepted by the regular catholic church in Poland?

Yep, they're (in Poland anyway) a part of the Church, a controversial loudmouth part but still a part, i know in US they form separate groups but in US they worship gerbils so its a weird country like that.
Sokrates   
21 Oct 2009
Love / How do Polish men treat their women ? [45]

're the boss in your house hold and you have your girlfriend permission to say so?

Uh ... i admit nothing.

Seriously Soky, we all know that your girlfriend wears the trousers in your house ;0)

Untill the kitchen sink gets clogged or the wheel needs changing, then the power is all mine!
Sokrates   
21 Oct 2009
News / BNP far right in Poland [116]

I don't consider you a true Poles as true Poles are not Fascists they are anti-Polish and act against Poland's interests.

True, its in Polish interest to admit to your wild claims that we were an ally of Nazi Germany, kneel before the great Sjam who's not racist at all and acknowledge our sins, then we should pay the Jews, Germans and Russians for starting WW2.

Face it man, you're out on a mission to correct Polish history which in your vocabulary translates into dragging it through muck and dirt, you're nothing, a little neonazi hateful bugger.
Sokrates   
21 Oct 2009
News / BNP far right in Poland [116]

So anti-Polish in fact I helped raise a monument to it

Sjam you never gave a penny to anything Polish but its nice that you feel you can cover you bs behind statements like that, claims made on forums are suprisingly cheap, unlike monuments :)

All i've seen you ever do is lie that Poles were Nazi supporters who built concentration camps for Jews etc, you're a racist liar here to insult and belittle Poles.

...When I was at the age of rebellion against everything in society I chose a bit different ways to rebel instead of shouting "Sieg Heil"

So did i, so does my teenage cousin but like i said we're human beings, there's always idiots (take Harry or Sjam) these guys are a fringe movement and largely harmless, when you compare them to East Germany, France or UK movements, they're kittens.

You really think any fascist party in any country would actually do that openly?

Oh yeah, that and a lot more.
Sokrates   
20 Oct 2009
News / BNP far right in Poland [116]

Can you please explain why they seem to have the support of some catholic priests?

Because priests are human beings which means you cannot prevent the statistical idiot happening among them.

Why is the Polish catholic church tolerating those priests?

Because the Church as such, not the Polish one rarely excomunicates people and even thats for serious offence, having politically or morally incorrect outlook on life while stupid and plain wrong, especially if you're a priest is not enough to exclude someone from the church.

As it is these guys occupy the grey zone, too lightweight to bring out the big guns so the church at large generally chooses to ignore them, just like the majority of the baldies these guys have some schock value to them but are largelly harmless.

Coincidentally, that particular priest comes from a fringe hardcore Catholic branch that believes last 3 popes were heretics because of bringing modern reforms into the Church, that should explain a lot.
Sokrates   
20 Oct 2009
Love / How do Polish men treat their women ? [45]

do polish men beat the girlfriend or wife?

Yup, regularly. For example today i got medieval on her ass for not bringing me beer squeezed between her boobs like i trained her to.
Sokrates   
20 Oct 2009
News / BNP far right in Poland [116]

Rubbish, you're as always anti-Polish, what you failed to say is that these bald idiots prance around sieg heiling but dont really do much else, apart from very rare cases where they actually mug someone, usually for their wallet rather then racial reasons they're largely harmless.

Creepy, sahmeful youths grow up into creepy, shameful adults...

You should know.
Sokrates   
20 Oct 2009
News / BNP far right in Poland [116]

Does anyone know if Poland has a similar political party to the BNP. If so are they popular ??

No, though there is LPR with its borderline racist youth organisation - Młodzież Wszechpolska there's no hardcore racist parties here.
Sokrates   
19 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

What should be Tusk doing, accepting missiles to befuddle Putin?

He should have pulled out of the deal when it started smelling tuna instead of waiting for US to do it.

Result? Tusk does not get any flak for pulling out but our country does lose a LOT because of the way US did it, once again that **** put his political career over our country.

These meetings have to stop. They are a complete waste of fuel ;)

Well ... Amen.
Sokrates   
19 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

How do you feel Tusk is handling Putin?

Just like everything else, not at all, i have no illusion about our current political elites, left or right.

Israel, LOL. That was a good comment! Letting the Palestinians be trodden on is just wrong and Obama isn't helping

US never cared about Palestinians, in my opinion all the meetings and comments are there only as a publict front, they fed the place to the Jews long ago.
Sokrates   
19 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

If that is Polish paranoia then I can go along with it.

Thats the underlying principle behind most of our policies, the only problem is that we have people like PiS and Kaczynscy to enact them, there's logic behind it but they sure dont sell it that way.

The West has the potential to spark sth but I think those days are behind us as long as Obama is in power.

Neither Obama nor MacCain are running the US.

He'd've been in Iran and winding Putin up.

Why would US strain their economy further when they have Israel to do that?
Sokrates   
19 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

No of course not, if it was me at Kaczyńskis place i'd sit down with Americans, try to wrestle a good pile of money for it, failing that i'd pull out of the deal but having America pull out the way they did is emboldening Russia and Russia when its on the roll cant stop, even if it would want to and thats what i'm afraid of, Russia on the roll.

First Eastern Ukraine, then Belarus when Lukaszenko gets uppity and then suddenly they feel the urge to protect their minorities in the Baltics and NATO gets involved, and what country is the nearest major NATO power? Yeah ...

There's enough scenarios where the West feeds Russia into a war no one wants and given the people at the helm of the Kremlin, all of them likely, and you call it Polish paranoia.
Sokrates   
19 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

No i'm saying that Russia would have to use 100% of its usable conventional forces right now to have a go at Poland, thats not the same as their nominal forces, if numbers could fight they'd eat us alive.
Sokrates   
19 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

I thought Poland had enough to defeat Russia alone without any further weaponry.

No Sean my point is that Poland can (probably) defend itself but only a total incompetent would rely on that, with Russia its important to look for a carrot we have in common with them and at the same time have the sharpest stick possible in case they dont like it.

Were you lying?

No what i'm saying is that if Russia would be to invade shall we say tonight we could probably pull a 1920 on them (provided they dont nuke us) thats not the same as being on par in potential though.

Stop underestimating Russia,

I'm not.

they'd make short work of Poland.

Really? Lets do some math, globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/mo-budget.htm

Russian military spending in 2007 - 50 bilion USD.
Polish military spending in 2009 - 10.5 bilion USD (and we actually cut it).

We have 1/5 of Russias military funds and 103.000 personnel.

At the same time Russia has over a milion personnel which means that their funding unit for unit would be only 50% of their Polish counterpart.

I'm saying would be because at the same time Russia has a gigantic over 20 times larger fleet, a nuclear arsenal, an air fleet thats 6 times larger then ours, we can only guesstimate but the Russian units are unlikely to receive more then 20% of funding of their Polish counterparts and thats not 1920 Sean, without training, maintenance and logistics it doesnt matter if you have a milion strong army.

Could Russia win against Poland? Yeah if it devoted 100% of its usable forces and was prepared to have its military wrecked then it might but thats arguable, whats not arguable is they have greater potential in every field and its that long term advantage that we need to have allies for.
Sokrates   
19 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

The British had 40,000 troops in Russia; the Polish had only 12,000 which was one thousand less that the US had during the same campaign, who fielded 13,000.

But then again we had 750.000 defeating a milion Russians under Warsaw :)
Sokrates   
19 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

Aren't you now just being paranoid?

No i'm drawing logical conclusions.

What reason would Russia have to start trouble with Poland?

Lets see, Poland opposes exploitation of Ukraine, Poland is a destabilizing factor for Russian regional dominance (since that dominance historically includes Poland sooner than later).

List and links, pls (in English, German, French or Dutch). Thanks.

Suck my keyboard you annoying twat, you're welcome :)
Sokrates   
19 Oct 2009
History / Ross kemp on Polish Gangs/Nazis - Untermenschen Nazis..?? [69]

You are right Polish fascists and Nazis like you certainly need putting down—as do all diseased animals—it is the humanitarian in me :-))

And since according to you every Pole is a diseased animal we all need to be put down?:)
Sokrates   
19 Oct 2009
History / Ross kemp on Polish Gangs/Nazis - Untermenschen Nazis..?? [69]

sjam
As always you're a liar, fascists had nothing to do with Nazis, the first is a corporate state the second a natiolistic state, but hey Sjam nothing will ever stop you from putting down Poles using the fact that our mods are not Polish and allow your anti-Polish racism:)))
Sokrates   
19 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War

170.000~ soldiers? In Russia? Thats a joke.

Poland has every right to pursue arms but I don't think it's the right maneuver at this time.

Thank God you're not our politician, Sean the sheer level of your political stupidity is mind boggling, apart from calling Putin who's a former KGB agent responsible for multiple murders and executions decent you tell us not to arm ourselves in peace time? So when?

When your decent Russia decides that Poland looked at it the wrong way and Russia needs to restore peace in Warsaw (like you claim it did in Georgia) and dont go telling me that NATO or UE are protection enough or that Russia wouldnt do it because its mad, history shows Russia did madder things and it was rulled by the very same people its ruled by today, same mindset, same goals.

Thank God we are arming ourselves and people responsible for purchases are not clueless hippies like you.
Sokrates   
18 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

it wasn't at all clear what Hitler had in mind.

There were pretty good indications, just like there are with current Russia, yet there are always naive fools like Seanus, if anything Europe should learn from Poland in regards to Russia but we still get bloody ignorants coming here like Sean on a high horse and preaching to us about paranoia, thats not paranoia thats wisdom learned the hard way.

Georgia was the aggressor.

Did Georgia invade Russia? If Edynburgh wants to secede from Scotland does that give England right to invade Scots to defend Edynburg?

You are living in the past.

What past? Politkovskaya was killed three years ago, Petr whathisname got a bullet a year ago, Chechen women are still being raped to breed out the locals.

Why can't you let them work it out?

Occupy parts of Georgia to make the pipeline from Azerbejdzan unfeasable or let Russia invade Ukraine in the name of taking back the Crimea.

Why does Poland have to get involved?

I'm sorry Sean because i really like you but there's no other way to put it, you like most of politically interested people in or from the West are clueless fools who dont know a broken penny about Russian culture, Russian civilisation or their mindset.

We could write books on the subject here in Poland being directly affected, warring with them or occupying, being occupied, or just living next to them but since you like most of the west is hopelessly naive and deluded you just wont listen.

Its the fault of people like that we had the iron courtain and that Hitler happened and thats exactly why Poland needs to get involved, just like in 1920 when you twittled your thumbs and we were saving the collective European asses under Warsaw, we have to get involved because you and people like you( most(of the West) are on the bottom of shytless clueless pit as far as Russia is concerned.
Sokrates   
18 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

I know Putin's history, yes

And you claim he's decent? The man is a cold blooded murderer responsible for death of Berliners, independent Journalists and a number of other fun things, yet you claim he's decent Neville Chamberlain!

but I don't see any invasion

Even though Russia made some significant statements about their minority in Ukraine AND invaded Georgia over what was much less of a reason they have for invading Ukraine?

I don't encourage paranoia.

I dont encourage complacent stupidity which is what you present right now, you're at this point playing Neville Chamberlain, lets not get crazy, lets sit down and talk, i'm sure Adolf Hitler is a decent man.

all have histories, some darker than others. This is the present.

Exactly, and seeing as Russia did not change at all and made moves towards re-establishing itself as a power (despite its pathetic economic and military standing) the natural conclusion is that if Ukraine strives for independence (or as you called it becomes a puppet of the West, captain appeasement) they will invade, especially since Ukraine unlike Poland does not have a military capable of putting up a fight.
Sokrates   
18 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

The Russian invasion isn't coming because of the decency of Putin.

Thats an incredibly stupid thing to say for a smart guy like you, do you know what decent Putin was doing for a living before he entered politics?
Sokrates   
18 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

A defensive war? What, one where you constantly take missile blasts and live in fear of a nuke blast?

What missile blasts Sean?

This just shows how romantically deluded some Poles are. Be practical, Russia will not do that and only intransigence and a cantankerous approach from Poland could provoke that. Don't live in the past!

Whats romantically deluded? They have at most 150 planes in the air, we have 120, they have around 2000-3000 tanks active, we have 900, their soldiers shoot on average 50 bullets yearly, our shoot nearly 4000, we're talking real working amount of equipment not nominal, nominally they have mountains of stuff thats rusting like their fleets.

We can be practical in what Russia can or cannot do with its current military potential, overruning a country with a relatively modern and large military is on the border of their capacity and i dont believe they would use nukes unless Poles would enter Russia proper of which our current army is incapable of.

They want Abkhazia and Ossetia to have sovereignty and autonomous rule.

Which is why they rule them?:)

I know what Russia is capable of and would be cautious too. However, I don't go to paranoid lengths about it.

The idea of any policy, especially the defensive one is to hope for the best and prepare for the worst, right now i believe Russia will have a go at Ukraine.
Sokrates   
17 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

Bush speaks of the rule of law but they value hegemony and supranationalism.

Law does not equal morality, you can be a supranational hegemony and follow the law, one that you have established.
Sokrates   
17 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

Sok, where does the UN figure in this NWO?

The problem Sean is that you view every international venture as an NWO puppet, whatever else UN was it was a test of how well international ventures would work.
Sokrates   
17 Oct 2009
News / NEW PATRIOT MISSILES FOR POLAND [178]

So the NWO is a concept or a concrete organisation?

The latter born out of the former, it may even be benevolent in a way but given that absolute power corrupts absolutely its bound to go south if it ever succeeds.