Calicoe
1 Jul 2009
Life / What really represents Polish people? What would be the symbol of Poland... [51]
hahahahaha - LOVE this response!
That's why the OP is asking Poles and not you.
hahahahaha - LOVE this response!
Calicoe
29 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish chef jailed for double rape in Leeds. [42]
That is a disgusting comment. Tell me, is it OK to beat an a**hole half to death if everyone knows he's a jerk? Is it OK to male-rape a man if he's gay? Abuse is OK, if they are somehow considered less than human by your ilk, is that it?
"Luniewski raped his first victim, now aged 31, by Water Lane after dragging her on the ground by her hair.
The woman scratched his face as she struggled and screamed for help.
Shortly later Luniewski raped his second victim, aged 23, at the back of Yorkshire Bank near Holbeck Lane.
The court heard he became violent and twisted her arm behind her back, breaking a finger.
Luniewski threw her to the ground and ripped her clothes before raping her as she struggled and bit his hand as he stifled her screams."
You cannot rape a prostitute, the actual term is theft, taking goods without paying.
That is a disgusting comment. Tell me, is it OK to beat an a**hole half to death if everyone knows he's a jerk? Is it OK to male-rape a man if he's gay? Abuse is OK, if they are somehow considered less than human by your ilk, is that it?
"Luniewski raped his first victim, now aged 31, by Water Lane after dragging her on the ground by her hair.
The woman scratched his face as she struggled and screamed for help.
Shortly later Luniewski raped his second victim, aged 23, at the back of Yorkshire Bank near Holbeck Lane.
The court heard he became violent and twisted her arm behind her back, breaking a finger.
Luniewski threw her to the ground and ripped her clothes before raping her as she struggled and bit his hand as he stifled her screams."
Calicoe
22 Apr 2009
History / Where did the stereotype of Polish people being stupid come from? [131]
Not me, Brattie, YOUR source, lol. Those were the words of Davies, my sock puppet friend.
First of all, we weren't talking about American newspapers and the French, or your one little harping point that you follow me all over the forum to bang on about. But since you brought it up, if we were actually having a discussion about your point, I would say that yes, there were some jounalistically weak and reactionary media sources (Read FAUX NEWS and some of Aussie Ruperty Murdoch's other toxic rags) that harped on about the French in the first phases of the Iraq invasion, directly related to that falling out. I have no problem admitting this and speaking the truth of what is out there. You can't even acknowledge a fact that everyone knows: there is rampant and long-standing anti-Americanism in every facet of British society, and the major media sources stoke it. I'm not the one with double standards, Irons, you are.
Even in our rags, we don't run surveys about how vulgar we believe a national group to be, unlike Britain's rags, and the blatantly biased reports of BBC World News reports.
Your inability to have an honest discussion about this and to see past your own interests is clear. You are as one-dimensional as Brattie above.
You're both a couple of sock puppets, lol.
Ah ja, let me see if I get you right
Not me, Brattie, YOUR source, lol. Those were the words of Davies, my sock puppet friend.
In exactly the same way that if an American newspaper makes derogatory references to the French
First of all, we weren't talking about American newspapers and the French, or your one little harping point that you follow me all over the forum to bang on about. But since you brought it up, if we were actually having a discussion about your point, I would say that yes, there were some jounalistically weak and reactionary media sources (Read FAUX NEWS and some of Aussie Ruperty Murdoch's other toxic rags) that harped on about the French in the first phases of the Iraq invasion, directly related to that falling out. I have no problem admitting this and speaking the truth of what is out there. You can't even acknowledge a fact that everyone knows: there is rampant and long-standing anti-Americanism in every facet of British society, and the major media sources stoke it. I'm not the one with double standards, Irons, you are.
Even in our rags, we don't run surveys about how vulgar we believe a national group to be, unlike Britain's rags, and the blatantly biased reports of BBC World News reports.
Your inability to have an honest discussion about this and to see past your own interests is clear. You are as one-dimensional as Brattie above.
You're both a couple of sock puppets, lol.
Calicoe
21 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / FIVE DIE AS POLE DRIVES WRONG WAY ON UK MOTORWAY [78]
It is just awful. The Polish driver lived in England for awhile, and the other exits were open. There was absolutely no reason for him to turn around on that expressway. Bloody, frickin' ridiculous. The family in the other car just lost the Patriarch 2 weeks ago. The emotional toll must be unbelievable!
timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6138985.ece
It is just awful. The Polish driver lived in England for awhile, and the other exits were open. There was absolutely no reason for him to turn around on that expressway. Bloody, frickin' ridiculous. The family in the other car just lost the Patriarch 2 weeks ago. The emotional toll must be unbelievable!
Calicoe
21 Apr 2009
History / Where did the stereotype of Polish people being stupid come from? [131]
Already mentioned this above. That is from the book by Christie Davies, Mirth of Nations. He is basically one of the only scholars to purport that opinon, and on closer inspection of his book one understands why: it needed to fit into his thesis that self-directed (and in my opinion self-congratulatory) laughter is a sign of intelligence, in his words as exemplified by the Scots, the English, Jews, et al. But most importantly, he makes a distinction between ethnic jokes and ethnic slurs.
"Throughout the book, a main theme is Davies's demonstration that ethnic jokes are playful, that they are not expressions of aggression, and that they do not create or exacerbate hostile tensions between peoples or groups ...For instance, in Europe there are many ethnic slurs against the Poles, but very few Polish jokes. In the United States, the land of the Polish joke, there are very few ethnic slurs against Poles."
Mirth of Nations, Page 158-159
"(American Polish jokes) is a world apart from the earlier folklore of Eastern and Central Europe, which constituted a veritable system of ethnic slurs expressed about the Poles by several different peoples who had been involved in long-lasting, and very violent, national and ethnic conflicts with the Poles .... Mild snobbery is quite distinct from real hatred. Germans, Russians and Ukrainians have a long history of hating and slaughtering Poles. Americans do not."
Lol. Even your favorite and only source comes out and says it. I really give up on you now.
Good night.
added note: However, Davies seems determined to absolve himself from any similarity between the violence of Eastern European history and ethnic slurs in comparison to the "playful" British ethnic slurs between its historic neighbors is discussion for another thread, and another day.
...It might be that the "Polish Joke" actually originated in part from Polish people themselves, trying once again to get through the adversity of trying to assimilate into American life."
These anti-slavic Poles!!!
These anti-slavic Poles!!!
Already mentioned this above. That is from the book by Christie Davies, Mirth of Nations. He is basically one of the only scholars to purport that opinon, and on closer inspection of his book one understands why: it needed to fit into his thesis that self-directed (and in my opinion self-congratulatory) laughter is a sign of intelligence, in his words as exemplified by the Scots, the English, Jews, et al. But most importantly, he makes a distinction between ethnic jokes and ethnic slurs.
"Throughout the book, a main theme is Davies's demonstration that ethnic jokes are playful, that they are not expressions of aggression, and that they do not create or exacerbate hostile tensions between peoples or groups ...For instance, in Europe there are many ethnic slurs against the Poles, but very few Polish jokes. In the United States, the land of the Polish joke, there are very few ethnic slurs against Poles."
Mirth of Nations, Page 158-159
"(American Polish jokes) is a world apart from the earlier folklore of Eastern and Central Europe, which constituted a veritable system of ethnic slurs expressed about the Poles by several different peoples who had been involved in long-lasting, and very violent, national and ethnic conflicts with the Poles .... Mild snobbery is quite distinct from real hatred. Germans, Russians and Ukrainians have a long history of hating and slaughtering Poles. Americans do not."
Lol. Even your favorite and only source comes out and says it. I really give up on you now.
Good night.
added note: However, Davies seems determined to absolve himself from any similarity between the violence of Eastern European history and ethnic slurs in comparison to the "playful" British ethnic slurs between its historic neighbors is discussion for another thread, and another day.
Calicoe
21 Apr 2009
History / Where did the stereotype of Polish people being stupid come from? [131]
Lol, that was definitely worth a good laugh.
I never said any bigotry was "inborn", but historic in origin or normative. Please note the title of this thread: "Where did the stereotype of Polish People being stupid COME FROM?
And to all, a good night.
you need the real stuff...images, movies, posters etc. THAT would be SOURCES!
Lol, that was definitely worth a good laugh.
And you didn't answer my other question: Would you accuse americans or french who tell polish jokes of inborn anti-slavic racism?
I never said any bigotry was "inborn", but historic in origin or normative. Please note the title of this thread: "Where did the stereotype of Polish People being stupid COME FROM?
And to all, a good night.
Calicoe
21 Apr 2009
History / Where did the stereotype of Polish people being stupid come from? [131]
Well, it's a balanced article, and I have no problem with balanced and honest research, which is why I posted it, unlike your comments. Afterall, I AM THE ONE posting sources here. However, the reader's analytical objectivity of Kulczycki's tendency to interpret ANY or ALL forms does not rule out the very real and acknowledged forms of discrimination which were also previously and duly noted in this paper and others, which not surprisingly, you conveniently overlooked, lol.
added: But, hey - I'm glad to see you're reading ;)
Well, it's a balanced article, and I have no problem with balanced and honest research, which is why I posted it, unlike your comments. Afterall, I AM THE ONE posting sources here. However, the reader's analytical objectivity of Kulczycki's tendency to interpret ANY or ALL forms does not rule out the very real and acknowledged forms of discrimination which were also previously and duly noted in this paper and others, which not surprisingly, you conveniently overlooked, lol.
added: But, hey - I'm glad to see you're reading ;)
Calicoe
21 Apr 2009
History / Where did the stereotype of Polish people being stupid come from? [131]
Collective memory and European identity By Klaus Eder, Willfried Spohn
hsozkult.geschichte.hu-berlin.de/rezensionen/id=384
. J. Kulczycki: Foreign Worker and German Labor Movement
added: unattributable.com/2009/03/british-racists-just-as-cretinou s-uninformed-as-other-racists/
Collective memory and European identity By Klaus Eder, Willfried Spohn
hsozkult.geschichte.hu-berlin.de/rezensionen/id=384
. J. Kulczycki: Foreign Worker and German Labor Movement
added: unattributable.com/2009/03/british-racists-just-as-cretinou s-uninformed-as-other-racists/
Calicoe
21 Apr 2009
History / Where did the stereotype of Polish people being stupid come from? [131]
Right, I've provided substantiated research links that yield numerous other research links for days and you can only continue to throw food on the wall with your reactionary, politics of denial sans the facts.
I'm done here. Yawn. I feel like I'm talking to the Fox News Channel.
Right, I've provided substantiated research links that yield numerous other research links for days and you can only continue to throw food on the wall with your reactionary, politics of denial sans the facts.
I'm done here. Yawn. I feel like I'm talking to the Fox News Channel.
Calicoe
21 Apr 2009
History / Where did the stereotype of Polish people being stupid come from? [131]
No love, I think you are confusing your unsubstantiated opinion with that of substantiated and referenced research. The book quoted above has about 6 pages of cited sources from prior published research, as well as "first hand accounts from perpetrators, victims, and eyewitnesses". There are also other sources in Wiki, in addition to YOUR favorite Davies who likes to blame it all on America.
There are countless sources, because this is a matter of history, not your defensive opinions. Here's another:
Alan Dundes: A Study of Ethnic Slurs, The Jew and the Pollack in the United States: 1971. But unfortunately, I can only find it on JSTOR, and can't post it here.
Amongst other things, the renowned folklore anthropologist from Berkeley talked about the roots of Pollack jokes:
"The folklore authority Alan Dundes, however, points out that a traditional stereotype of Poles in Germany portrayed them as stupid and dirty, and that German immigrants probably brought this stereotype with them to the Midwest. The Nazis encouraged this, and one elderly German immigrant recalled a typical joke from her childhood during the Nazi period: 'How do you catch a Pole? By slamming the toliet lid on his head while he's taking a drink of water.'"
Punchlines By Leon Rappoport, Page 33.
And remember, the Poles were partitioned, occupied and oppressed by both the Russians and Germans, so their vitriol stems from the other side of history, and for different reasons.
No love, I think you are confusing your unsubstantiated opinion with that of substantiated and referenced research. The book quoted above has about 6 pages of cited sources from prior published research, as well as "first hand accounts from perpetrators, victims, and eyewitnesses". There are also other sources in Wiki, in addition to YOUR favorite Davies who likes to blame it all on America.
There are countless sources, because this is a matter of history, not your defensive opinions. Here's another:
Alan Dundes: A Study of Ethnic Slurs, The Jew and the Pollack in the United States: 1971. But unfortunately, I can only find it on JSTOR, and can't post it here.
Amongst other things, the renowned folklore anthropologist from Berkeley talked about the roots of Pollack jokes:
"The folklore authority Alan Dundes, however, points out that a traditional stereotype of Poles in Germany portrayed them as stupid and dirty, and that German immigrants probably brought this stereotype with them to the Midwest. The Nazis encouraged this, and one elderly German immigrant recalled a typical joke from her childhood during the Nazi period: 'How do you catch a Pole? By slamming the toliet lid on his head while he's taking a drink of water.'"
Punchlines By Leon Rappoport, Page 33.
And remember, the Poles were partitioned, occupied and oppressed by both the Russians and Germans, so their vitriol stems from the other side of history, and for different reasons.
Calicoe
21 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / FIVE DIE AS POLE DRIVES WRONG WAY ON UK MOTORWAY [78]
Yeah, I agree with you completely. However, I also understand the people who angrily call the driver an idiot. It was an idiotic thing to do, most likely fostered by bad and lax driving standards and the unfamiliarity of a new road on the left. Who knows, maybe drink too, but with all the confusion involved at night, drink may not have been necessary to make such an error. The judgment was ridiculous.
Yeah, I agree with you completely. However, I also understand the people who angrily call the driver an idiot. It was an idiotic thing to do, most likely fostered by bad and lax driving standards and the unfamiliarity of a new road on the left. Who knows, maybe drink too, but with all the confusion involved at night, drink may not have been necessary to make such an error. The judgment was ridiculous.
Calicoe
21 Apr 2009
History / Where did the stereotype of Polish people being stupid come from? [131]
Yes, good post Softsong, and I have to agree that Polonious3 provides a good explanation for contemporary Pollack jokes in the U.S.:
But, my point was that the history goes much further back, and that there were peasants of all sorts that came over, but for some reason only Pollacks got the stupid label, which persist until modern times. I think it was a combination with a history that runs deep.
Yes, good post Softsong, and I have to agree that Polonious3 provides a good explanation for contemporary Pollack jokes in the U.S.:
But, my point was that the history goes much further back, and that there were peasants of all sorts that came over, but for some reason only Pollacks got the stupid label, which persist until modern times. I think it was a combination with a history that runs deep.
Calicoe
21 Apr 2009
History / Where did the stereotype of Polish people being stupid come from? [131]
hmmm, but I would argue that today's jokes have a history behind them, both in England's history and the "Pollack" slurs. And there was nothing benign about the German history and Slavs:
War and Genocide excerpt, Anti-Slavic Attitudes, Page 19:
"Developments in the early 20th Century added new dimensions to German notions of superiority over the Slavs. After WW1, the first time since the 1700s, an independent Polish nation was established. Until the war, territories in which many Polish people lived had been ruled by the German, Austro-Hungarian, and Russian Empires. With the defeat of Germany and the collapse of the Habsburg empire in Austria-Hungary in 1918, the way was cleared for the creation of an independent Polish state. Many Germans resented this new neighbor and the loss of territories formerly under German control to Polish rule."
hmmm, but I would argue that today's jokes have a history behind them, both in England's history and the "Pollack" slurs. And there was nothing benign about the German history and Slavs:
War and Genocide excerpt, Anti-Slavic Attitudes, Page 19:
"Developments in the early 20th Century added new dimensions to German notions of superiority over the Slavs. After WW1, the first time since the 1700s, an independent Polish nation was established. Until the war, territories in which many Polish people lived had been ruled by the German, Austro-Hungarian, and Russian Empires. With the defeat of Germany and the collapse of the Habsburg empire in Austria-Hungary in 1918, the way was cleared for the creation of an independent Polish state. Many Germans resented this new neighbor and the loss of territories formerly under German control to Polish rule."
Calicoe
21 Apr 2009
History / Where did the stereotype of Polish people being stupid come from? [131]
One is already provided, above. You can start with Wiki, and look at their reference list.
Here is another: War & genocide By Doris L. Bergen
https://books.google.com/books?id=61Vid0UfbD4C&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=German+slurs+of+Polish+people&source=bl&ots=E9co3fp5zi&sig=r2KO7K8LfiGnp-87alQU7qz81gY&hl=en&ei=bojtSfSZLJjItAOH4dz0AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result
Any link for that opinion?
One is already provided, above. You can start with Wiki, and look at their reference list.
Here is another: War & genocide By Doris L. Bergen
https://books.google.com/books?id=61Vid0UfbD4C&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=German+slurs+of+Polish+people&source=bl&ots=E9co3fp5zi&sig=r2KO7K8LfiGnp-87alQU7qz81gY&hl=en&ei=bojtSfSZLJjItAOH4dz0AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result
Calicoe
21 Apr 2009
History / Scotland and Poland. Mutual connections since 1576 [45]
uhm, why was my response to derek trotter's crap comment edited out? There is absolutely no reason for that edit, as it is a response and relevant to his crap comment.
The title of this thread is : "Scotland and Poland - Mutual Connections since 1576", which make my comments totally relevant, especially in direct response to Paiwan's original comment which was untouched. Does the discussion of red hair between Scots and Poles not fall under mutual connections in some alternative, limited universe?
As I said previously, I was correcting the often erroneous belief that red hair in Eastern Europe comes from the Scottish re-migration to Poland in the 16th and 17th Century. Not the case, and most likely, Celts took the red-haired gene from the Danube region with them to the British Isles. You can check this thread for a further discussion and sources on this topic.
https://polishforums.com/genealogy/poland-red-hair-recessive-gene-33539/
uhm, why was my response to derek trotter's crap comment edited out? There is absolutely no reason for that edit, as it is a response and relevant to his crap comment.
The title of this thread is : "Scotland and Poland - Mutual Connections since 1576", which make my comments totally relevant, especially in direct response to Paiwan's original comment which was untouched. Does the discussion of red hair between Scots and Poles not fall under mutual connections in some alternative, limited universe?
As I said previously, I was correcting the often erroneous belief that red hair in Eastern Europe comes from the Scottish re-migration to Poland in the 16th and 17th Century. Not the case, and most likely, Celts took the red-haired gene from the Danube region with them to the British Isles. You can check this thread for a further discussion and sources on this topic.
https://polishforums.com/genealogy/poland-red-hair-recessive-gene-33539/
Calicoe
20 Apr 2009
Life / Culture Shock Since Moving to Poland - Anybody Dealt With This Before? [52]
Very cute. I could see this being a major complaint for an 8-year-old, lol - or even some adult expats on this forum!
no corn flakes
Very cute. I could see this being a major complaint for an 8-year-old, lol - or even some adult expats on this forum!
Calicoe
20 Apr 2009
History / Scotland and Poland. Mutual connections since 1576 [45]
Actually, no, it's probably vice versa: red hair existed in Eastern Europe and turkic tribes long before Scot migration in the 16th Century, and actually could have migrated with the first Celtic tribes to Gaul and the British Isles.
Ok, here are some quick links and excerpts (I couldn't find my other links at the moment, but these will do):
khazaria.com/khazar-history.html
"Origins. The Khazars were a Turkic people who originated in Central Asia. The early Turkic tribes were quite diverse, although it is believed that reddish hair was predominant among them prior to the Mongol conquests.
geographia.com/russia/rushis02.htm
"The early history of Russia, like those of many countries, is one of migrating peoples and ancient kingdoms. In fact, early Russia was not exactly "Russia," but a collection of cities that gradually coalesced into an empire. I n the early part of the ninth century, as part of the same great movement that brough the Danes to England and the Norsemen to Western Europe, a Scandanavian people known as the Varangians crossed the Baltic Sea and landed in Eastern Europe."
redheads.ie/Origins-Red-Hair.htm
"Red hair is often assumed to have emerged with the Celts, but the gene for redheadedness existed long before the Celts came into being, at the start of the first millennium BC around the headwaters of the Rhine, the Rhone and the Danube. One theory is that red hair arrived in Europe with the Iranic-speaking steppe tribes who lived the areas north of and around the Black Sea from 4,000 years ago to the 6th century. Today, there is a surprising number of redheads in Afghanistan, Iran and the Urals, as well as in Azerbaijan and Georgia. It is possible that this "Iranic" ginger trait was transferred to other populations, including the Celts, whose original hair color was various shades of brown and black in general."
Guys, don`t forget masses of Scottish mercenaries who visited Poland on various occasions, mostly with invading armies. Where do our Polish red-haired types come from?
Actually, no, it's probably vice versa: red hair existed in Eastern Europe and turkic tribes long before Scot migration in the 16th Century, and actually could have migrated with the first Celtic tribes to Gaul and the British Isles.
Ok, here are some quick links and excerpts (I couldn't find my other links at the moment, but these will do):
khazaria.com/khazar-history.html
"Origins. The Khazars were a Turkic people who originated in Central Asia. The early Turkic tribes were quite diverse, although it is believed that reddish hair was predominant among them prior to the Mongol conquests.
geographia.com/russia/rushis02.htm
"The early history of Russia, like those of many countries, is one of migrating peoples and ancient kingdoms. In fact, early Russia was not exactly "Russia," but a collection of cities that gradually coalesced into an empire. I n the early part of the ninth century, as part of the same great movement that brough the Danes to England and the Norsemen to Western Europe, a Scandanavian people known as the Varangians crossed the Baltic Sea and landed in Eastern Europe."
redheads.ie/Origins-Red-Hair.htm
"Red hair is often assumed to have emerged with the Celts, but the gene for redheadedness existed long before the Celts came into being, at the start of the first millennium BC around the headwaters of the Rhine, the Rhone and the Danube. One theory is that red hair arrived in Europe with the Iranic-speaking steppe tribes who lived the areas north of and around the Black Sea from 4,000 years ago to the 6th century. Today, there is a surprising number of redheads in Afghanistan, Iran and the Urals, as well as in Azerbaijan and Georgia. It is possible that this "Iranic" ginger trait was transferred to other populations, including the Celts, whose original hair color was various shades of brown and black in general."
Calicoe
20 Apr 2009
History / Where did the stereotype of Polish people being stupid come from? [131]
Yes, this is the most accurate. It started with Prussia, Germany and the partitions. There were then mass immigrations of both Germans and Poles to the U.S. where it continued, and then carried over to the media up until the 1970s.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Polish_sentiment
(I've read this elsewhere but cannot be bothered to find the articles right now).
Uhm, and I'm pretty sure America is not the only place that has harbored ethnic slurs.
For centuries few bothered to actually check Poland out. Until about 1945 there was not a serious book on Poland's history, culture, politics outside Western Europe/USA that had not been largely a translation of German sources.
Yes, this is the most accurate. It started with Prussia, Germany and the partitions. There were then mass immigrations of both Germans and Poles to the U.S. where it continued, and then carried over to the media up until the 1970s.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Polish_sentiment
(I've read this elsewhere but cannot be bothered to find the articles right now).
Uhm, and I'm pretty sure America is not the only place that has harbored ethnic slurs.
Calicoe
29 Mar 2009
Life / nice polish name for a girl [38]
I love your avatar - hilarious!
Is that a Polish name?
Wroclaw [Moderator
I love your avatar - hilarious!
I've been partial to Lydia for some time.
Is that a Polish name?
Calicoe
28 Mar 2009
Life / You know you're Polish when... ? [111]
Actually, come to think of it, that's exactly how I know I'm Polish.
Luckily, I had a booty that could also fit in as well, which was very important, lol.
Actually, come to think of it, that's exactly how I know I'm Polish.
Calicoe
28 Mar 2009
Life / You know you're Polish when... ? [111]
Well, I guess as a Polish/Hungarian mix I was adopted into the right ethnic group because my adopted Puerto Rican/Caribbean family was always after me to eat as well. However, they drank rum and not vodka. Luckily, I had a booty that could also fit in as well, which was very important, lol.
Well, I guess as a Polish/Hungarian mix I was adopted into the right ethnic group because my adopted Puerto Rican/Caribbean family was always after me to eat as well. However, they drank rum and not vodka. Luckily, I had a booty that could also fit in as well, which was very important, lol.
Calicoe
28 Mar 2009
Life / nice polish name for a girl [38]
Wow, I see my original, pre-adoption name on that list. I always thought it was Hungarian rather than Polish spelling. That means I originally had a Polish first name and Hungarian surname. Pretty wild - I didn't know.
50 Most Popluar Girl Name in Poland
Wow, I see my original, pre-adoption name on that list. I always thought it was Hungarian rather than Polish spelling. That means I originally had a Polish first name and Hungarian surname. Pretty wild - I didn't know.
Calicoe
28 Mar 2009
Life / 800 thousand Polish women are victims of domestic abuse yearly [180]
And look at the way he is scratching his head in that illustration: "uhm, why is my brain going all fuzzy, and what is happening to my fig leaf?" Poor guy; he doesn't stand a chance.
I think God is fine with women. It's the men from the temples, synagogues, churches and mosques who had it out for us; still do.
It's all women's fault anyway. They started all the misery, and they were even the first who used the fruit of man's hard labor - the first ruthless capitalists ;)
And look at the way he is scratching his head in that illustration: "uhm, why is my brain going all fuzzy, and what is happening to my fig leaf?" Poor guy; he doesn't stand a chance.
I never really followed that - I guess God doesn't like women much. Also where did they get their hair cut?
I think God is fine with women. It's the men from the temples, synagogues, churches and mosques who had it out for us; still do.
Calicoe
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
Right, well them to call up Russia to give them back their country, and then they can just return everything to Poland and Lithuania anyway.
Cheers.
As for Pomerania and Prussia, Poland needs to give the land back to the Pomerians and Prussians which Poles took it from before the German took it from the Poles (and held it for 600 years).
Right, well them to call up Russia to give them back their country, and then they can just return everything to Poland and Lithuania anyway.
Cheers.
Calicoe
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
We're talking actual history that is documented by all, not the history written by temple elites and the self-proclaimed chosen ones.
If we're using that logic, Israel doesn't need to give the West Bank or Gaza back.
We're talking actual history that is documented by all, not the history written by temple elites and the self-proclaimed chosen ones.
Calicoe
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
Oh, did Poland ever demand or receive reparations from anyone other than a part of what had already been taken from her previously?
Oh, did Poland ever demand or receive reparations from anyone other than a part of what had already been taken from her previously?
Calicoe
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
Well, wait a minute, how about the Israelis and settlers give back the houses and properties they stole from Palestinians. Don't do one thing with your left hand, while calling foul with your right.
We aren't talking about descendants and great-grandparents: we are talking about the people who used to live in houses which still stand today but who are offered nothing as compensation for the theft of their property. I would be quite happy to see a limit imposed on compensation claims in Poland that nobody could claim more than one generation back.
Well, wait a minute, how about the Israelis and settlers give back the houses and properties they stole from Palestinians. Don't do one thing with your left hand, while calling foul with your right.
Calicoe
24 Mar 2009
Genealogy / strange Polish mixes [116]
Yeah, I saw your picture on the other thread and I was about to comment. I see both in you, but then again, I often think there are similarities between Persian features and some Polish features in general. You have a really nice mix.
Yeah, I saw your picture on the other thread and I was about to comment. I see both in you, but then again, I often think there are similarities between Persian features and some Polish features in general. You have a really nice mix.
Calicoe
24 Mar 2009
Genealogy / strange Polish mixes [116]
hehe
On this site, only a little. Unless you are currently dating or currently seeking to date a Pole.
you think you know better about my sides ;/
hehe
0% Polish. Think it's strange?
On this site, only a little. Unless you are currently dating or currently seeking to date a Pole.
Calicoe
24 Mar 2009