UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]

Guest, for the last time, I don't "blame" anyone. I really don't care about 'THEN'.

A couple of years ago your own country was so busy chasing alleged 'collaborators" that the whole country was terrified by a government which was so anti-communist it didn't realise it was acting the same way, using scare tactics, police stings, secret records only they had... whilst ignoring the fact some of their own people sat on the side of the martial law (think Giertych's daddy). These same people were denying rights to people just because of their sexuality, or religion. Isn't that a bit more worrying?

Again. I'm not interested in continuing. I'm going to bed.

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


Often there is little difference (at least in the eyes of the oppressed).

What is also important is not to immediately judge the 'ordinary' citizen because of the actions of their 'leaders'.


Well, I don't think the ancient Prussians would have been jumping for joy when a Polish king asked the Teutonic Knights to visit them (can't ask them myself at the moment).

That Lithuania signed a declaration of independence in 1918 which did not signify unification with Poland and then fought a war over what they saw as Polish encroachment might also suggest something.

As I said earlier, I'm not interested in 'blame' but there are usually at least two sides to a story.

Life / Wanna buy a rubber/condom (in Rossmann in Poznan)? [51]


I wonder if somebody has ever invented a Kisiel flavoured condom

UK, Ireland / UK Poles attack Daily Mail 'bias' [33]


Funny that, cos a number of my Polish friends have said they want to stay in UK and have no desire to return to Poland (probably trying to avoid me!).

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


And just what have the Romans ever done for us? ;-)

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]

Seanus, it's questionable even to talk about "better" anyway. Bread? British make great bread when they want to... Lithuanian bread is better again. Cooking, likewise, although the Polish staple diet seems tastier, better and healthier it is also fat laden and salt-rissen (just the way I like it). I've known Brits who cn turn a pretty decent hand in the kitchen and Poles who are useless (although why is the main Polish celeb chef always going abroad and the other one is a Frenchman anyway?)

Homemaking? I know a number of families both in Poland and UK who can/cannot make the grade. A lot of Poles I know (have known) are divorced (as are quite a few Brits). Must have been great homemakers, huh?

And don't start me on the driving business!

It really is a pointless exercise.

I think the way to look at it is that Poles consider their country to be one created by God. The English consider themselves a self-made race... which relieves God of any responsibility!

UK, Ireland / UK Poles attack Daily Mail 'bias' [33]

Like Mister H says, it's not a case of not wanting foreigners, it's a case of wanting control. As well as all the Europeans, UK and Ireland have incomers from Africa, Middle East, Antipodes etc. I personally don't mind, it's interesting listening to the changing accents of the sandwich sellers.

Lots of people DO try to tell our 'leaders' but they won't do anything because they don't want to be branded as racist. Mind you, it never stopped them when it came to refusing British servicemen like the Gurkhas.

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


You mean British style preservatives, I hope? Polish preservatives make the bread very chewy.

UK, Ireland / UK Poles attack Daily Mail 'bias' [33]


You forgot to mention they were disabled too.

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]

Well argued, gumishu.

I think my top comment was actually referring to 20th Century, when Ukranian nationalism was more developed and Lithuania had declared independence in 1918.

However, thanks for very interesting information, especially in the previous post. It does make a decent discussion.

Love / do polish girls consider a english man a good catch ? [126]

prestige, rather than money , I would say.

Westerners are usually better looking, I`m afraid.

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


I'd give the same advice in Britain.

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


Quality costs. Actually a lot of the freshly made bread in supermarkets is getting better. I tend to eat brown/wholemeal anyway. Can't stomach the white fluffy mother's prode stuff anymore.

UK, Ireland / FIVE DIE AS POLE DRIVES WRONG WAY ON UK MOTORWAY [78]

Maybe if he'd pulled over to use the phone...

UK, Ireland / What is in Poland that England doesn't have? [142]

Exceedingly bad roads which Neil Armstrong wouldn't have been able to drive along!

Areas of natural beauty which have not all been sanitised for tourists.

Wildlife which you can be scared of (wolves and wild boar). It's a great feeling to see/meet one and feel you really are in the wilderness.

Horse drawn farm vehicles being used for real. Sounds patronising, but it is kind of sweet to see a horse drawn cart going through the village.

UK, Ireland / What is in Poland that England doesn't have? [142]


It is sad, however, on the other hand, it suggests farmers are now rich enough to have motor vehicles (or poor enough not to have horses!).

We still have a few in our villages in warmia. In fact, when the school bus didn't show up one day the local farmer picked all the kids up in his cart. The local paper had a field day.

News / Poland to ban Che Guevara image [55]


Damn, there goes my Kaczynski T-shirt.

Life / Wonderful Poland.......but the attitude of Polish people [150]


But some of the people who died in those camps also had dark skin. It doesn't justify racial intolerance... in fact it makes it worse.

History / Polish Jews we are (Poles) proud of [30]

Adam Mickiewicz.

History / Polish Jews we are (Poles) proud of [30]

Apparently his mother's family (I think) were Jewish (or had been).

History / Polish Jews we are (Poles) proud of [30]


He converted to Catholicism (if that matters).

How Zamenhof, about the guy who invented Esperanto? He was from Bialystok.

Does Roman Polanski count? His father was a Polish Jew.

UK, Ireland / Polish chef jailed for double rape in Leeds. [42]


I think the problem is that often these stories are given some kind of priority because it makes them different to the huge number of non-foreign stories. To be honest, sometimes when I look in a local paper, like The Shropshire Star, it is full of rapes, muggings and murders but they are seem commonplace they hardly get more than a couple of paragraphs.

This case is disgusting, so it's sensational. I think the fact a foreigner commited the crime is just a bit of extra spice to it.

News / Poland to ban Che Guevara image [55]


But there are such shirts already. There's the ironic Commie-chic which has been going on for a while. A local restuarant has pictures of Bierut and Gomulka on the wall and one place used to be all decked out in Commie regalia.


Well Giertych tried that with school literature a couple of years ago.

News / Poland to ban Che Guevara image [55]


A lot of the places I've seen it in in Poland were actually catering for the locals. There are calendars of old commy posters and videos of PRL propaganda films available in EMPIK, hardly a predominantly tourist outlet.

Funny thing about the West is it's OK to say you were a commie in your youth and have a picture/bust of Stalin but not to say you were a member of the Facist Party and have one of Hitler.

Life / DO AWAY WITH COMMIE MAYDAY IN POLAND? [3]

In some parts of Europe May 1st is the first day of summer. It is also the feast day of several saints.

May Day, Labour Day, International Workers' Day, Day of the International Solidarity of Workers.
Czech Republic – "National Love Day" – couples tend to flock to the memorial of the poet Karel Hynek Mácha in Prague and kiss.

Lei Day – Hawaiian holiday for the Lei.
Beltane, Lá Bealtaine, the first day of Summer in modern Ireland was celebrated by the Celts, and is now also celebrated by Neopagans and Wiccans.

Kazakhstan - Unity Day.
Maharashtra Day (Maharashtra Divas) – Maharastra, India.
Marshall Islands - Constitution Day.
Northern Europe – Walpurgis Night.
Roman Empire – all-female festival in honour of Bona Dea.
Roman Empire – fourth and last day of the Floralia in honour of Flora.
United States – Law Day, U.S.A., Loyalty Day.
Feast of Saint Joseph the Worker
Saint James the Less.
Saint Philip the Apostle.
Saint Andeol.
Saint Asaph
Saint Brieuc.
Saint Sigismund of Burgundy.
Saint Theodulf.
Saint Augustin Schoeffer
Global Love Day

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


Errm, might one say "unclear conscience on the part of Winnie and his chappies". Exactly how many of the British citizenry knew what was going on or was consulted about it. Many British service-personell and officers were outraged when they saw what had been done to their brothers-in-arms. Just couldn't say or do much about it. The fact that it is a little known piece of history amongst many of today's Brits suggests not many folk knew about it then, either.


Strange, Operation Market Garden took place in 1944. Battle of Arnhem, Bridge Too Far and all that. Methinks we came (with a few jolly Polish chappies too), just didn't quite liberate the old Netherlands. what-o!

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]

Ah, I see. But they did come some of the way...

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


Marie Curie was Polish, she contributed a fair bit...

Life / What is the fastest/cheapest/easiest way out of the schengen zone from Warsaw? [3]

We have an American colleague up here in Olsztyn, he went to Ukraine. Maybe a flight to Turkey could be fun. Depends on the visa requirements for Ozzies.

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


I know, but she was the only one I could think of at the time.

We missed out another section... nobody makes weird animation like the Polish.