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Last Post: 31 Jan 2009
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From: Wakefield, England, U.K.
Speaks Polish?: A few words (but I keep trying!).
Interests: History, Reading, Organised Crime, Travelling, Film/TV and attempting to learn Polish.

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ArcticPaul   
20 May 2008
Life / What is the easiest way to get to IKEA in Warsaw (from downtown)? [15]

Just listen at yourselves!
YOU ARE MEN!
The location of Ikea (in Warsaw or anywhere) and the public transport to get there should be left to women.
Political correctness has emasculated the lot of you.
Now go and collect your kiddies from the creche....it's your turn to prepare dinner.
ArcticPaul   
19 May 2008
Life / What is the easiest way to get to IKEA in Warsaw (from downtown)? [15]

IKEA!!!
Jesus H Christ!
Fightclub had the Ikea 'nesting instinct' summed up perfectly!

I am a primitive animal.
I need raw meat, water (served in a dirty old jam jar) and sex with women who have a frightened fascination of me (known as animal attraction in thoses magazines that endlessly go on about futons, furniture and fckuing).

I do not need flat pack kitchen spice racks, Scandinavian, minimalist picture frames, natural pine toilet seats or innovative design cutlery.

eat like Vikings!
Half cooked beef, gripped with both fists. Tearing away chunks with unbrushed teeth as blood and saliva stain my chin, chest and genitals.
Then I stand up, point at the Ikea hat-stand and grunt primitive noises.

IKEA! You utter wankers!
ArcticPaul   
16 May 2008
Work / Polish Language Courses at Polish Universities [14]

Although the Jagiellonian has a fantastic reputation the price reflects this. Does anyone know anything about some of the other 'top' Polish Uni's.
Specifically I am thinking of Lublin's Catholic University but info on any will be appreciated.
My goal is to combine a 2/3 week intensive language course with a sight seeing city break so I'm more interested in old cities. Places like modern Warsaw hold little appeal for me.

Ideally the city would be like Krakow, Prague or Talin but less well known, so the tourists would not have completely corrupted it and the McDonalds corporation would have kept thier awful franchise down to single figures.

...but if the course is top rate I could make harsh compromises.
ArcticPaul   
16 May 2008
Language / Accusative Case [44]

Agreed. Perfect explanation (and examples).
ArcticPaul   
16 May 2008
Language / Cases, Genders, Nominative, Instrumental...WHY? [40]

Here książka takes the fem. acc. ending -ę and Paweł takes the masc. dat. ending -owi

Hope that helps.

Yes. It helps alot. I know understand the overall concept.
I'm still a little unsure of what will constitute the direct object in other sentences but feel practise and experience will soon make this a thing of the past.

I'm going to try and understand the grammar of some English sentences in this respect, as well as continue my Polish studies.
ArcticPaul   
16 May 2008
Language / Accusative Case [44]

I think I found another Feminine word that ends in a consonant.
NOC.
My dictionary has a -f after it and also gives the masc (nocy) and the neuter (noce).

those are usually created from an adjective (wiadomy, znajomy, podły, doniosły)

Can you think of any English equivalents of nouns(?) made from adjectives?

Rather not, but there are nouns that follow the adjective declension pattern (for example "uczony" - I'm sure I wrote about it not long ago in one of your threads

Yes you did. In my 'ACCUSATIVE.Masc/Fem/Neu' thread.
You have been a great help to me.
Thank you.
ArcticPaul   
15 May 2008
Language / Accusative Case [44]

powieść is feminine.

I have only been learning for four weeks so I recognise the gender of nominative/singular words by the endings:

Masculine=consonant
Feminine= '-a' or occasionally '-i' (pani, gospodyni)
Neuter= '-o', '-e', '-ię', '-ę' and '-um'.

POWIEŚĆ ends in a consonant so I thought it would be masculine.
Does the accent make it feminine?

First names are nouns.
Surnames are also nouns unless ending with -ski, -ska. In which case they become adjectives.

Am I correct in the above statement?

If I am correct are there any more names/parts of names that are treated as anything other than nouns?
ArcticPaul   
14 May 2008
Language / Accusative Case [44]

powieść is feminine.

Why is it feminine?

it's the verb that decides the case of a noun or adjective+noun group, czytam requires Accusative, so both will be in Acc. forms.
Czytam ciekawą powieść.

I am going to post a few examples of my exercise to clarify my task.

E1. Oglądam ................ [stara fotografia]
stara fotografia = feminine, so:
Oglądam starą fotografię

E2. Czy masz ............. [mój klucz]
Mój klucz is masc/inanimate so remains nominative, so:
Czy masz mój klucz

E3. Czy masz .................[młodszy brat]
młodszy brat is masc/animate, so:
Czy masz młodszego brata

I hope this will explain my task better.
I have not been instructed on using the verb to determine the case but to use the noun and adjective, as above.
ArcticPaul   
14 May 2008
Language / Accusative Case [44]

Thanks Polish girl.

I understand the first example.

Treat as masculine/animate. Pan=Noun/Kowalski=Adjective.

I'll need an explanation for the remaining three.

Merged:Mixed genders in Accusative case?

Czytam ................ [ciekawa powieść]

The adjective (ciekawa) is feminine, the noun (powieść) is masc/inanimate (so would remain nominative).
Do I change the adjective and noun to their respective genders or does the noun dictate the gender of the full sentence?
ArcticPaul   
14 May 2008
Language / Accusative Case [44]

Merged: Polish Accusative's: Help required

I have a task of completing sentences using the correct form of accusative nouns and adjectives.
Example:
Q1. Czekam na ............ [mój brat].
Because it is masc and animate it is:
A1. Czekam na mojego brata.

I am having trouble because I know there are different rules regarding names.............but I have forgotten them!
Q2. Czy czekacie na ...................... [pan Kowalski].
Q3. Czy czekacie na ...................... [profesor Nowak].
Q4. Czekam na ................. [pani Anna].
Q5. Czekam na ................. [pani Lewińska].

If someone could refresh my memory on the rules regarding names in the accusative case it would be a great help.
I seem to remember that -ski is considered an adjective?
Either male or female names do not change?
ArcticPaul   
11 May 2008
Language / Cases, Genders, Nominative, Instrumental...WHY? [40]

Today, 03:41 Report #20

ArcticPaul:
Why is 'Jeden mały kurczak' considered ACCUSATIVE?
What rules govern the inclusion of words/phrases into the ACCUSATIVE GROUP

It isn't, it's nominative

Let me rephrase.............

Why is it correct to change the nominative 'Jeden mały kurczak' into the accusative 'Jednego małego kurczaka'.
I know 'kurczak' is masc so we opt for 'mały/mała/małe' (The masc form of the adjective that correctly fits the masc noun of 'kurczak')

I'm just getting used to genders and case endings, nominative and instrumental THEN this pops up.........
.........but, unlike nominative and instrumental, I'm unsure of the reason or puepose?

Your explanation (above) went some way towards helping me understand.
ArcticPaul   
11 May 2008
Language / Cases, Genders, Nominative, Instrumental...WHY? [40]

Do you mean a linguistic change or are we straying on to vegetarian issues?

As z_darius's 'youtube' clip it sounds very Scandinavian with bits of Dutch IMHO.

Back to the subject.......
Why is 'Jeden mały kurczak' considered ACCUSATIVE?
What rules govern the inclusion of words/phrases into the ACCUSATIVE GROUP?
ArcticPaul   
10 May 2008
Language / Cases, Genders, Nominative, Instrumental...WHY? [40]

]I have been so preoccupied learning what, where and when variations of grammar are necessary that I have never askied WHY the language evolved into such a complex one.

Jednego małego kurczaka.

Why are Jeden, mały and kurczak so drastically altered?
ArcticPaul   
9 May 2008
Love / Don't Polish men fall for British women? [57]

ArcticPaul:
It must be hard work spending your nights together avoiding 'sins of the flesh'.
How are you both ensuring mutual virginity for your wedding night? Remember that he'll burn in hell if he masturbates.

That's exactly the point I was making - we both want to wait until we're married. He was married before and got really hurt and I've had my share of '******' relationships - so it's nice to get to know eachother properly without any pressure. As for the sex - all the more to look forward too when we are married !

I'm not religious but I sometimes think our 'progressive' society has the wrong values. Getting a know a person very well before jumping into bed with them, like my Grandparents generation, seems to have made stronger foundations for lasting happiness.
ArcticPaul   
9 May 2008
Language / Accusative Case [44]

Duży żubr (Big Bison) [Masc. Anim.]
Jeden (One)

Jedenego (or do I drop the 'e' = Jednego?)
Dużyego (oe do I drop the 'y' = Dużego?)

Jednego Dużego Żubra?

This pattern applies to nouns that are in fact adjectives (for example spalony - offside, from the verb spalić)

???Because the particular adjective is being used as a noun???

Sędzia (male, a judge) has a mixed declension.

Example, please?
I'm unsure what you mean.

"Polanski...."
The '...ski' ending to a name turns it's usage into that of an adjective??
ArcticPaul   
8 May 2008
Language / Accusative Case [44]

Merged: ACCUSATIVE.Animate/Inanimate.Masc/Fem/Neut?

Rule= Masc, Animate
Add 'ego' to adjective/s, 'a' to noun/s.
Inanimate
NO change.
Feminine, Animate and Inanimate
Add 'ą' to adjective/s, 'ę' to noun/s
Neuter. Animate/ Inanimate
No change.

Example:
Proszę .................... [mała kawa] = fem/Inanimate.
Proszę małą kawę. (Please may I have a small coffee)
Because 'mała kawa' is fem I hook the 'a' of the adjective and and change the 'a' of the noun (kawa) into an 'ę'.

Example 2:
Proszę ............... [jedna mała pizza]= fem/inanimate.
Proszę jedną małą pizzę. (Please may I have one small pizza)
Jedna is a numeral so is treated as an adjective.

HELP:
Proszę ........... [jeden mały kurczak]= masc/animate.
Proszę jedenego małyego kurczaka.
??Am I being correct by simply adding 'ego' to the masc 'mały'??

Hints, tips and explanations welcome.
Dziękuję.
ArcticPaul   
7 May 2008
Love / Don't Polish men fall for British women? [57]

strong christian views

he is really handsome and funny - great company

It must be hard work spending your nights together avoiding 'sins of the flesh'.
How are you both ensuring mutual virginity for your wedding night? Remember that he'll burn in hell if he masturbates.
ArcticPaul   
7 May 2008
Love / Don't Polish men fall for British women? [57]

I'm just an over weight, middle aged lady wanting to make the most or my divorce settlement, wondering if Polish males integrate as often as the Polish ladies seem to.

So what if your overweight?
Personality is what really matters for long term happiness.
Most of the Polish males I work with have Polish girlfriends/wives.
More than half of the Polish women I know also have Polish partners but a few have lovers of different nationality.
One girl from the cafeteria at my workplace is in a serious relationship with a black guy. I'd worked with a trio of Slovaks who were very racist towards black people and I sort of expected a similar attitude from the Poles.... I was wrong. I have never heard a single racist sentiment from any Pole towards people of colour.
ArcticPaul   
7 May 2008
Language / Hurra Po Polsku [10]

The web page is in English but the sample pages from the books appear to contain none. That was my meaning.

Thanks for your help.
ArcticPaul   
7 May 2008
Language / Pittsburgh Uni. 1st Yr Polish. HELP [5]

Actually, sunbreak, I believe my initial problem was due to not downloading the Java programme that is necessary to access the drills.
I have not yet returned to retry but I'll make a point of doing it soon.
ArcticPaul   
7 May 2008
Language / Hurra Po Polsku [10]

or contact us by phone

So you are part of the Prolog team, Krzysztof?
I'm seriously considering choosing Prolog for the two week intensive, residential Polish language course I plan on taking in October.

Why should I opt for prolog rather than another Krakow summer school?
Come on.... Sell it to me.

(By the way, the books look excellent but instruction in English appear to be lacking. Am I misunderstanding something?)
ArcticPaul   
6 May 2008
Language / Hurra Po Polsku [10]

Where can I buy these books?
I cannot find them on Amazon.co.uk (or even USA Amazon), The Washington DC Polish Embassy sells them but, like the course they run, they expect major money!

Mail Order, new or used.

Also OSCAR E SWAN, University of Pittsburgh, First Year Polish.
The website is awesome but as anyone used the published books rather than printing the pdf's?
ArcticPaul   
6 May 2008
Language / Masc/Fem, Nom-Instr Exceptions [4]

Some 'prestigious' job titles keep their masculine grammar when women have them.
Pscycholog/Pscychologiem
Does this rule apply to Architekt/Architektiem also?

With masculine nominatives that end with 'a' (ASRONAUTA, DENTYSTA) what are the instrumental versions?

LISTONOSZ (Postman)- nominative
e.g. Stefan pracuje jako listonosz
Is the instrumental LISTONOSZIEM?
Stefan jest listonosziem

How do I know when to use -IEM or use -EM?
ArcticPaul   
3 May 2008
Language / Correct form of BYĆ. Please help! [96]

Sorry.
I should have said
'Learn your pronouns and the forms of być (jest, jestem, są) that fit correctly.
ArcticPaul   
2 May 2008
Language / Correct form of BYĆ. Please help! [96]

FoxxiGold:
301 Polish Verbs by Klara Janecki may be helpful,

BYĆ.(The verb 'to be')
These are the present tense forms you will use most as a starter (like myself).
Jest, Jestem, Jesteś, Jesteśmy, jesteście, są

You use the appropriate form in context to the meaning:
Ja jestem (I am)
Ty jesteś (you are)
on/ona/ono jest (he/she/it is)
my jesteśmy (we are)
wy jesteście (you/they are) wy=plural, no gender 'you'.
oni są (you/they are) oni=plural, masculine 'you'.
one są (you/they are) one=plural feminine 'you'.

Basically you must learn your pronouns (jestem, jest etc) and your forms of być, then practise 'fitting' them together.

Then you move on to using names to determine the correct form of być needed:
Jan jesteś....
Jan and Sylwia są....
ArcticPaul   
1 May 2008
UK, Ireland / Poles returning to Poland from UK [21]

Maybe it was simply the first opportunity of many poles to experience an adventure abroad. Before 2004 many of the Poles in UK were illegals who had to accept below minimum wage jobs and faced the constant risk of deportation. After '04 they were free to exercise the rights of full European membership.

If I had spent my childhood under communist rule, my teenage years in a nation with nothing in the shops and my early adulthood with severe restrictions on where I could live and work I believe I would have jumped at the chance to live and work abroad. (In fact I did. I spent a year in Australia)

If this situation had occured a decade earlier I think I'd have taken advantage of the availability of jobs in Poland to stay there and enjoy the experience. Some friends helped build Hong Kong Airport for far less pay than they could earn here in UK But they had enough to stay there and soak up the atmosphere.

What more could a young adult with no commitments want?
ArcticPaul   
1 May 2008
Language / Instrumental form in Polish [65]

I'm taking one-to-one lessons (internet skype connection).
Before the lesson I receive an e-mail with attachments of pdf/audio files. The tutor and I work through the material and I listen to the audio files to aid my 'homework'.

As well as this method I use some self teaching materials (books, websites) and find the input of others invaluable.
Especially the feedback and direction I am given by the members of this forum.
ArcticPaul   
1 May 2008
UK, Ireland / Are the Poles in England hated? [450]

Absolutely, okgirl66.
Also some towns have had Polish communities for decades. Barnsley has a 'Polish Club'. The area had many Polish settlers after WW2 who escaped Stalin and came to work in the coalmines.

People like Zeus just don't get it. They're behind the times with their comments and do not realise that being a racist is little better than being a pedophile.
ArcticPaul   
30 Apr 2008
Language / Instrumental form in Polish [65]

That's a real curve ball I was thrown!
I was aware of the principle of 'Pani Dyrektor' (A female title and a masculine gender profession) but I was given no hint that the exercise contained anything other than varients of the same process.

Thanks,
Krzysztof.