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IronsE11   
11 Aug 2009
Life / Openly gay in Poland [245]

Thanks for the loads of graphomania. Feel free to bring up worthy points at any time. Ö=

My work here is done. Ignorance is bliss so you must be one happy f*cker ;-)

Lucy

Please tell me you can see the irony of my posts!
IronsE11   
11 Aug 2009
Life / Openly gay in Poland [245]

Being gay is not normal.

Spot on. These people talk about homosexuality as if it has occured naturally amongst humans and other species since the dawn of time. You can't expect posters like mvefa to grasp this concept! Homosexuality is a modern phenomenon whch is detroying the already underpopulated human race. Why can't people see this?

don't spread it worldwide neither say it is normal, because that may affect psyche of those who're not sick so far

Again, great point. I constantly live in fear that if we accept homosexuality as normal then I will start craving d1ck. I don't want to be gay, yet I can feel all of this acceptance turning me. I think I'm developing a serious illness.

What would you prescribe me Sasha?
IronsE11   
11 Aug 2009
Life / Openly gay in Poland [245]

haha hope you are just being sarcastic!

Not at all. I genuinelly think Sasha is on to something here. I'd go as far to say that I have never before come across such an enlightened and well educated take on homosexuality. In the past, I always endeavoured to treat disabled people with dignity and respect, but now I can see the error of my ways. Homosexuality is an illness that is destroying the moral fabric of our society. The "normailsation" of homesexuality signifies the destruction of humanity as we know it. I can only but see a future where all of our kids are gay, unless we localize this problem now. This modern phenomenon of homosexuality must not be allowed to flourish.

This would never have been accepted in the great Roman civilization.

;-)
IronsE11   
11 Aug 2009
Life / Openly gay in Poland [245]

Yet I consider homosexuality an illness that can develop and therefore should be localized. The quickest way to localization is to stop talking about that as if it is normal, whereas it's not.

I totally agree, I simply couldn't have put it better myself.

Similarly, I also advocate the localization of disabled people. Disability isn't normal, it's an illness. If someone develops an illness such as Multiple Sclerosis we shouldn't talk about it as if it is normal. Disabled people should not be encouraged to integrate in to society, it merely encourages them, and promotes the idea that disability is acceptable in society. F*ck wheelchair ramps, f*ck induction loops, why should wheelchair users and deaf people be encouraged to live their lives like normal non-disabled people. We need to localize this sh1t.

By giving equal rights to disabled people we are merely encouraging this illness to spread. This must not happen because before we know it, everyone will be disabled. What then? I shudder at the thought.
IronsE11   
12 Jun 2009
UK, Ireland / England, Dirty, Expensive and a dangerous place to live? [205]

I think so...what do you say?

It depends on where you live. I quite like my suburban outpost in East London:

visitlondon.com/areas/villages/wanstead-village

But yes, it is quite expensive.
IronsE11   
27 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Spitfire shoots down BNP [63]

child tax credit of about 100 a week, plus child benefit of the level that Shelley indicated.

How about £45 p/w per child!!

for what? Child benefit is 100 pm for 2 children! Get your facts right.

You might want to re-read the posts and get your facts right. I am well aware of the benefit rates, I was looking at them whilst posting.

For the record, Child Benefit for 2 children is £143.87 p/m.

CHB eldest child = £20 p/w
CHB other child = £13.20 p/w
Total CHB = £33.20 p/w
(£33.20*52)/12 = £143.87 p/m

I was actually referring to Child Tax Credit which you incorrectly suggested was £100 p/w for a mother on Income Support with seven children.

As you will be able to see from the link below, the Child Tax Credit child element is £2235 per year discounting the family element, baby additions or disabled child elements.

£2235 per year = £43 per week.

hmrc.gov.uk/rates/taxcredits.htm

How do you arrive at that figure?

See above. Granted, it wasn't exact.

Really are you one of the "pigs in the trough" council employees? Having a sick day?

Or "snouts in the trough" perhaps? I'm not an MP claiming interest on my mortgage as an expense! I am paid to audit benefit claims which I do. My sick record is very good and I exceed my targets. You'll be happy to hear I prevented over £5000 worth of benefit overpayments today, which was substantially more than I was remunerated :-( So in answer to your question.... no I'm not.

Sounds like a plan. PM me if you want your HB application fast-tracked ;)

I couldn't fast-track a benefit claim, even if I so desired. It was merely a light hearted response ;-)

I only posted the figures to highlight the fact that dtaylor's example is not a worst case scenario. A claimant with similar circumstances living in Westminster would possibly be entitled to over double that amount!
IronsE11   
26 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Spitfire shoots down BNP [63]

good idea , maybe I will...:) thanks

Sounds like a plan. PM me if you want your HB application fast-tracked ;)
IronsE11   
26 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Spitfire shoots down BNP [63]

she would rather be working and have a bit of dignity!

I know people like that but they are few and far between unfortunately.

It's about attitude really.

Spot-on, but an incentivised system would help.

I seriously doubt that dtaylor, she probably gets most of her rent paid, plus income support and child tax credit of about 100 a week, plus child benefit of the level that Shelley indicated. Its not riches.

How about £45 p/w per child!!

If she lived in central London, she would be entitled to a Housing Benefit allowance of up to £2000 per week. Why don't you just go and find yourself a nice 6-bedroom house down the Kings Road luv?

All tax-payers money.

that rents are so ridiculously high that its more or less impossible for one person to cover the rent through honest work?

If rents are that high, then why is the claimant living in such an area? I couldn't afford to live there earning decent money, so why should a benefit claimant be able to on tax-payers money?
IronsE11   
26 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Spitfire shoots down BNP [63]

About 7 years ago

I don't think a great deal has changed since then unfortuntely.
IronsE11   
26 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Spitfire shoots down BNP [63]

I personally have no idea how people manage on £60.00 per week to pay bills, feed and clothe themselves...

I guess if you have no outgoings for rent c/tax etc. then you don't need all that much, but you're right. I could not survive on £60 p/w, even without a mortgage and bills. Some council tenants have their gas/electricity/water covered in a low weekly service charge, and some private tenants have their bills included in their rent covered by the Local Housing Allowance scheme.

I know, but look how working tax credits have helped, it's a fact that people are financially motivated

Working Tax Credit is an incentive to work, but it only does so much.

Consider that Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit are reduced by a percentage of excess income (65% for HB and 20% for CTB), then the extra £200 p/w that someone will earn through actually working as oposed to claiming JSA will be swallowed up by rent and council tax costs. Then you consider that travel expenses (in London at least) can be £40 p/w then you have the following situation:

Sit at home all day with all of your rent and Council Tax paid and £60 p/w for personal use

or

Work 50 hours per week, earn £270 p/w, but have to pay £130 p/w towards your rent, All of your c/tax (£30 p/w) and £40 p/w towards weekly travel costs, thus leaving you with £70 p/w for personal use!!

Tough choice!!!

Even if the above receives an extra £60 p/w of WTC, £40 of that will go on their rent costs (rents in certain parts of London are astronomical), leaving them with an extra £20 in their pocket.

Who in their right mind would go to work for 50 hours a week for an extra £30?

What is the answer? We could start with refusing to pay HB to people who live in expensive parts of London, although I doubt that would be particularly popular given the ever increasing number of redundancies!
IronsE11   
26 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Spitfire shoots down BNP [63]

we need to get the lazy bast*rds on the dole in the UK back to work

Easier said than done.
IronsE11   
22 May 2009
Life / Queering Krakow's Culture - Same-sex pairs of iconic Greek sculptures [16]

Same-sex pairs of iconic Greek sculptures had been Photoshopped into compromising positions, then placed into bright yellow hearts.

That's definitely not my cup of tea. It's a good job nobody forced me to attend such an event.

Oh, we are in EU now, so we want to imitate the ever so progressive, more enlightened members:

Spot on. With the economic benefit and freedom of movement and employment that the EU offers, comes a certain pressure to relinquish the rather antiquated principles associated with backward cultures/beliefs. It's one of the reasons that Turkey struggles for membership.

You can't have your cake and eat it.
IronsE11   
19 May 2009
News / Should Poles become a minority in Poland? [150]

Yep ,for example some parts of London :)

And most parts of Poland.

You've accepted honor murderers already

I've sone no such thing. Your arguments often rely on blatent lies and that particular remark pretty much sums you up.

the only field on which Poland is "backwater" is economically :))

LMFAO - Keep telling yourself that ;)))

Are we? Could you provide any examples as to why?:)))

Adherence to outdated religious ideals... The same thing you accuse Muslims of.

we dont murder you though or convert you to our religion:))

Yes of course Sokrates, all Blacks and Muslims are murderers who try to forcefuly convert people to their religion. And of course, all Poles in Britain are good law-abiding citizens:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-535052/How-Polish-killers-drug-smugglers-rapists-run-Britain-sent-home-Con-Air-flights.html

Nothing like a bit of balance in an argument, but I know that doesn't fit well with your particular agenda.
IronsE11   
18 May 2009
News / Should Poles become a minority in Poland? [150]

They maybe racists but they are not supremacists, they maybe nationalists but they are not bigots, since their Catholicism prevents them from being both.

They are not mutually exclusive positions, so I'm not sure I understand your point.

Your argument is that you want what's happening in Britain to happen in Poland?- No thanks.

Is it? You could at least quote me. I've never made that point to the best of my knowledge.

My point is that in a civilised country, a law abiding person should be free to go about their business, free from discrimination based on perceived ethnic stereotypes. As a member of the EU, where Poles are afforded the right to reside and work across Europe (in most cases free from such discrimination), their citizens would do well to remember this.

I just find the whole argument regarding "Poland staying Polish" to be a little absurd. The number of people who use Britain as an example of decay, overun with foreigners and losing its identity make me laugh. Especially when some of those complaining are foreigners who have come to Britain to live and work. It's kind of like me retiring to my villa in the South of Spain, sitting there with my copy of The Sun, speaking English and eating my full English Breakfast, moaning about vast numbers of Moroccans eating away at the Spanish identity.

You can't have your cake and eat it.

segregating black people and colored minorities in general by their level of europeization

**Seeing as some Poles living in Britain are alcoholic, pike plundering scum who refuse to integrate properly by learning English, surely it would be easier for the UK to not let in any of them?

You talk of Europeization, but the simple fact is that some parts of Europe are more backward than others. Why should an economically advanced state like Britain accept immigrants from the backwaters of Eastern Europe? Especially when these people are culturally inferior.

Some people in Britain view Poles in the same way as Muslims or blacks I'm afraid Sokrates. The simply solution is to deny entry to all immigrants. I mean what's good for Poland is good for Britain right?**

**Ironic post. Not to be taken literally**
IronsE11   
15 May 2009
News / Should Poles become a minority in Poland? [150]

workpermit.com/news/2008-01-17/uk/overview-points-scoring-united-kingdom-tiered-immigration-system.htm

There is a problem with permitting asylum seekers from war-torn countries to stay in the UK. Such people are unlikely to integrate quickly, but that is different issue entirely. There are abuses of the immigration system (dodgy marriages and student status etc.) but the system is designed to encourage immigration to the UK based on skills and merit rather than ethnicity.

Which is exactly how it should be imho.
IronsE11   
15 May 2009
News / Should Poles become a minority in Poland? [150]

Our cities are being overrun by third world nations with the blessing of our Liberal Government.

I presume this is the fault of successive governements? I wonder why you would vote for a government that allows unrestricted immigration from third world nations.
IronsE11   
15 May 2009
News / Should Poles become a minority in Poland? [150]

But as for poor Polish and other caucasian neighborhoods occupied by blue collar workers, It is a honor to live amongst them. the homes are over a hundred years old, but they are well maintained, painted, and kept clean . The streets are swept, no trash is allowed to accumilate and one can walk the streets at night in safety. There is NO CRIME.

You are referring to Americans of Polish descent right? Even so, I doubt that the above can be applied to every Polish community in the States.

Maybe I just took season 2 of The Wire too literally ;-)
IronsE11   
15 May 2009
News / Should Poles become a minority in Poland? [150]

What does it achieve? What does it matter?

Nothing imo. But then I attach very little (if any) importance to ethnicity. Judging the inidvidual is paramount, and making blanket generalisations about people based on their ethnicity directly contradicts this ideal.
IronsE11   
15 May 2009
News / Should Poles become a minority in Poland? [150]

Yep, there's no Polish slums in London that could equate to some of the hellholes the colored minorities made.

But there are Polish slums right?

Bullcrap, English by large dont enjoy having minorites, in the privacy of their homes, i've heard quite a few remarks upon immigrants, sometimes Poles but most often blacks and muslim.

You've heard these remarks in the privacy of English homes? Mr Sokrates, the bullcrap is all yours. Of course some English people don't like minorities, but guess what, that includes Poles. I guess they don't confirm to your hierarchy of ethnic bigotry.

Its not common?

No it's not. Stop embarrassing yourself.

It's definitely not as common as white people putting cocaine up their nose and shoving glasses in to other people's faces in town centres all over England on a Friday/Saturday night. I wouldn't however for one second suggest that this is a predominent facet of English culture.

Whats with muslims beating up native Brits for no other reason than being native Brits?

Or vice versa?

These crimes dont exist in Poland, there's poor neighbourhoods yes but if you told a Pole not to go into one because he'll get mugged or beaten he'll look at you like an alien, the kinds of hazards the colored minorities created in UK are completely non-existant here which is why i dont want any non-white newly made Europeans in general and muslims in specific.

Poland is quite safe and free of ethnic issues that are ripping UK apart and the only way to stay that way is to keep blacks and muslims out unless they're non-muslim and many generations here in which case they're fully assimilated.

Ok, so you don't have a problem with people who feel the same about Poles in Britain?
IronsE11   
15 May 2009
News / Should Poles become a minority in Poland? [150]

Right, i'm sure he is.

Why do "fish and chips" muslims try to forcefully convert people?

Most of what you claim is written with pure ignorance. Where I come from, there are many people who are ethnically diverse yet enjoy a shared culture. I know many a second generation turk in London who lives their life just like an "indigenous" white person.

As for forcefull conversion, please stop embarrassing yourself. You make yourself look like a total fool by claiming that this is a common occurence in Britain. It really is pathetic.

I dont want ethnic slums

Even the Polish ones? You ever been to London son?

I live in a very prosperous, middle class areas of London which has many Turks, Pakistanis, Greeks, Indians, blacks living there. Most Poles live in poorer areas. That is a fact.

And i have no big love for Germans but i'll take a Fritz over a paki any day of the week.

Says it all really. "Scum" doesn't quite cover it.
IronsE11   
15 May 2009
News / Should Poles become a minority in Poland? [150]

There's absolutely no physical differences, zip. Both ancient Gauls and ancient Norse come from Indi-European ethnic group which is white, pale and blonde,

None at all? What about my ethnic group? My family has lived in England for many many generations but I am white with dark hair? Are you honestly suggesting that all white English people are from the same ethnic group?

Are Poles and Germans from the same ethnic group? They're both white European. Right?

Now lets take a black muslim or a turk, there's some obvious psychological, religious, mental, cultural and physiological

My sister goes out with an "ethnic" Turk. He was born in England (doesn't quite qualify as per your 6 generation rule) but he is as culturally British as Fish and Chips. There are no noticeable psychological, religious, mental or cultural differences whatsoever. Ethnicity does not determine character. Had he been born and raised in Turkey, the situation might be different.

some of them cannot be overcome.

Some people just make no effort and simply prefer to characterise people through physical differences. This is an ignorant thing to do.
IronsE11   
15 May 2009
News / Should Poles become a minority in Poland? [150]

In old Europe national identity is the same as ethnicity

How old are you talking?

Even prior to the more recent waves of immigration, England (or the English people) constituted a mixture of Celts, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Norse, and Normans.

There are some rather obvious physical differences between Vikings and Celts.
IronsE11   
13 May 2009
Love / If a guy was nice? [42]

where you live is same area as me ( E11).

Yep, Leytonstone (or New Johannesburg).

You don't see that many Polish girls with black guys.

No, I haven't noticed many. I do have a friend who is in a black/Polish relationship though.
IronsE11   
13 May 2009
Love / If a guy was nice? [42]

Actually, I'm sick of the state of this country and how people like Depak can be blatantly racist (of course he can he's got a brown skin), but let me say a word against him and of course Im in the wrong!

That's not the point. Deepak is an internet troll on a wind-up. He may or may not have brown skin but he is a brain-dead bigot on a fishing trip (the delightful PM I just received from him confirms as much).

I'm not digging you out, I was just wondering why you feel the need to stoop to his level? You didn't criticise the bigotry of his posts, you just responded with a load of equally bigoted bile!
IronsE11   
13 May 2009
Love / If a guy was nice? [42]

I fail to see what the problem is here, apart from the shocking amount of racism in this thread.

This is PF, what do you expect?

yeh its sickening. Ignorant rednecks

amen.

It works both ways and I'll tell you this for nothing, Indians and Pakistanis are amongst some of the most racist people I have ever come across!

That maybe true, but it's hardly a justification for spouting racist bile.

As per my earlier post, this entire thread is the clearest example of a fishing exercise you will see.
IronsE11   
8 May 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Whilst I don't dispute the above, I would point out that we openly accept non-Muslim individuals who are connected to groups which have blown up civilians. What's worse is that we have elected such individuals/groups.