Real Estate / Can I buy a small farm in Poland? [49]

I appear to have bought a small farm in poland!!! I'm English, my husband is welsh...we are just not sure what we do next!! Possibilities are to lease for 7 years and then transfer ownership, or to get a change of use on the land to agro-touristic, then we can buy the land as it is no longer agricultural? or to get a permit to buy because you are such a wonderful farmer (evidence required!)Poland needs you now! I think?? All a bit confusing, as some parts of Poland you only need to lease for 3 years...close to germany it appears to be 7....If anyone knows more or otherwise please let me know!

Real Estate / Can I buy a small farm in Poland? [49]

found this on expats web site ....12 years close season/ period does not concern the citizens of EU, who are going to be farmers by profession according to the principle of self-employment, if they stayed in Poland legally, without any intermissions, at least 3 years and they rented and personally cultivated the land which ownership they are going to obtain. As it comes to acquiring properties in such provinces like: warmińsko - mazurskie, kujawsko - pomorskie, pomorskie, zachodnio-pomorskie, lubuskie, dolnosląskie, opolskie, wielkopolskie, legal and constant stay should last at least 7 years. Foreigners who fulfill these requirements will be subjected to the procedures appropriate for Polish citizens.(the Polish act of agricultural system 11.04.2003).

Also more information on mamdom.pl....it is possible to get papers drawn up with a notary and translator giving full power of attorney of the property/land. If you farm the land for 3 or 7 years, then it can legally be transferred into your name. Otherwise, you could wait until May 2016 to buy, when prices have risen drastically as all restrictions will be moved. Comments like "Get a good lawyer" not particularly useful, or uplifting, thanks anyway...more useful would be advice on WHERE you can get a good lawyer! Legal advice already taken, but all through a translator, hence the confused state of an otherwise reasonably intelligent mind! Anyone know a good English speaking conveyancing lawyer???


Thankyou!!! We are in Lubuskie...near a quaint little town called Szprotawa, along with 3 horses and 2 Welsh Collies...please email me, phone me, drive down and see me, meet me half way, text me, write to me....Feeling a bit "marooned" ....can you tell??? But loving the life style anyway...

Real Estate / Can I buy a small farm in Poland? [49]

Thanks...would very much appreciate contact details...expensive is losing your new home because you didn't know the rules of the game! Clear, accurate information is invaluable!

Life / Brits moving to live in Poland [88]

Yep! The roads sure are crap here...but give me a crap Polish road ANY day over the A470 to Cardiff (or back again!)...and at least the over taking here is exactly that...OVER taking, not undertaking, cutting up, road raging, horn blaring, weaving in/out lights flashing, middle finger, up yours....we all seem to have forgotten the M25!!

The foods GREAT!! I can get BACON in the local Sklep, eggs are cheap, tomatoes cheaper, bread, butter, even a sausage that isnt a kiabalsa (forgive spelling??), but tastes like a real sausage...that's sorted the full English all day breakfast? I've even found real live TETLEY tea!! ......anyone located a mature cheddar anywhere yet???


You didn't sit behind as many tractors as I did then? Or slide around in the same cow-sh*t, or reverse 586 times back down that very pretty lane that was insisting on your direction, because someone else was insisting on another direction? And you've forgotten the "chicken lanes" on the N devon link road? The flocks of sheep marching along the B roads? I miss my family in Devon too....but the roads?? Ok, they didn't have giant ruts in them that grabbed your tyres like tram lines, but they weren't that fantastic surely? Pretty, yes! Roads are crap everywhere (try driving in Africa!), but at least there's no road tax here...and not as much stealth tax...did I say stealth tax? Sorry, I meant speed cameras!! 3 points left on MY license! Ha!

Driving everywhere is dangerous...5 of my friends have died on Devon roads! There are accidents every day on the A470 and M4 around Cardiff..causing huge tailbacks every rush hour...2 hours to drive under 20 miles??? I think I can cope with one or two "boy racers" in Poland! Even if it does irritate me , I have not been here long enough to have forgotten my reasons for leaving the UK...my fine collection of speeding tickets was only one of these reasons...add crap weather (or should that be wheater?), council tax, indifferent policing, "hoody" gangs, benefit cheats, lack of morals, cultural soup, don't offend the moslems (even if they want us dead!), don't reprimand the kids (even if they try to kill us!), and, whatever else you do, don't say you don't like the black jelly babies (racial abuse court case will follow) or sing a carol that mentions Jesus at Christmas! Xmas, sorry! Or is that Winter solstice now?

I am never going back!! I may find that Poland isn't all I have hoped for??? But until it is full of the British I have left behind, it can only be better than (great?) Britain!

Life / Brits moving to live in Poland [88]


No, Honey...I'm not for sale!! Laugh even louder !

Real Estate / Can I buy a small farm in Poland? [49]


Does this include leasing a farm and working the land in Poland? If so will I be able to purchase further land after working the land here for 5 years? Or will I have to wait 7 years to transfer the farm to my own name, then a further 5 years after I officially "own" it? Crucial, as we were negotiating to buy a further few hectares here! Perhaps we will be able to lease-purchase this as well??


I need no further incentive!! Things a bit tricky my end at the moment...Flying "home" for Christmas, property sales to complete in UK, husband stranded in Wales....but will definitely be in touch!! Will I need to bring my own cakes??

Life / Brits moving to live in Poland [88]

Ok! £10, no kinky stuff? That'll buy me a one-way with Ryanair...could be eating my bacon butty in a posh UK restaurant after all! ;0))

Real Estate / Can I buy a small farm in Poland? [49]

Thanks for the help...I will take a trip to the local notary ...at the moment I can just about afford the cake, but the lawyer will have to wait until my fairy godmother calls around!

Fortunately I have a good friend here who is fluent in both Polish and English, so a visit to the notary should be reasonably simple.....Famous last words???

Life / Brits moving to live in Poland [88]


Yep! Me too...Give Buddy a shout...he may have a proposition for you??!

Quite right tho...I can't remember a single day in the UK when I wasn't worried about money...now I haven't got any, I've quit worrying that I might spend it all!! And it's quality of life, not quantity in wallet (adapted form another well known UK phrase!!!!) that matters, so while I still have a tin of beans in my cupboard, i won't worry what tomorrow brings. For the first time in my life I can step outside my door and see my horses in my field! All I need to do is throw on a saddle and I can ride in acres of empty forest ( and my horse can run faster than those darn Pumbaa wild pigs!)....Skint? Too right! Happy? Even righter!! I just left the rat race! And as Britain is the proverbial sinking ship, expect a few more "rats" to follow !

Life / BRITS Expats in Poland ARE YOU MISSING ENGLISH FOOD? [48]

Cheddar Cheese Please!! The Seriously strong stuff...to melt over my Heinz baked beans (oops just ate the last tin!) and jacket spud! I entered a cookery competition at a potato festival here, and walked off with 2nd prize (and a food mixer) for my exotic entry of jacket spud with butter and tuna/mayo...think the English pub grub idea could take off? But I am an imposter...ask my family...I can't cook! I think I should take the food mixer prize back! So the pub restaurant idea is up for grabs!

Roast lamb seems a bit rare here as well...more of a problem for my husband than me, as he's Welsh (and partial to a lamb every so often!) (that's definitely Welsh, and definitely not British...he says only immigrants in the UK call themselves British!)

... Devon clotted cream and sticky toffee pudding! Bread and butter pudding, with clotted cream, home made apple pie (& clotted cream), Christmas pudding with brandy butter .....and clotted cream!! Blackberry & apple crumble, with (u guessed it!) Devon clotted cream! Ha ha!! I'm flying to Devon tomorrow...I'll let you all know how the clotted cream was! That's if I can still fit into the standard Ryanair seat to get back again!!

Happy Christmas!

I MUST go and pack!!

Life / Brits moving to live in Poland [88]


It looks like bacon, cooks like bacon, tastes like bacon....thought it WAS bacon! But I'm no gourmet!


Oh! Well, the box says Tetley, but the price says not! It's about 4x more expensive...which is why I'm working my way through the 1000 Tetley bags I brought with me....In devon for Christmas so I'll raid Tesco's and bring some back for you too! ??

Life / Polish Terrestrial TV [15]

Not really missing TV too much here, but just occasionally I have an overwhelming desire to tune into a trash reality program...Big brother, Celebrity get me out of here, Pop idol...and I seriously miss inspiring programmes like Grand Designs. Now, forgive me being ignorant...I never had much time to watch TV in UK, certainly not enough free time to warrant paying out for satellite stuff...so can you get these Brit programmes here??? Is all you need a Sky thingy? Is the basic £16 enough to get me UK channels (1,2,3 & 4 is plenty, but would settle for just channel 4!)...and how do I contact Sky in Poland, bearing in mind I speak about 2 words in Polish now, both of which would ensure anyone answering the phone hung straight up on me!!! Any advice much appreciated...but please no comments on my choice of programme..my husband told me already!!

Real Estate / Problems of renting in the Polish market [46]

Ha ha!! Uk landlady here! I sooooo wish the UK law and legislation was on the side of the landlord (or lady...I AM a lady, really!!) ...It would have saved me endless hassle! Like a 2000 mile round trip to redecorate a house supposed to be left neutral, but painted Barbie pink, to replace broken tiles, a broken hand basin, broken patio slabs, and to remove crude graffiti from natural wood doors in an 18 month old house....How does the landlord recover these sort of costs form a poxy deposit?? And the 5% interest on the deposit doesn't help at all! Incidentally, all new Uk tenancy deposits are held in a government fund now...NOT by the landlord.....and if the rent stops coming, or the rules are broken, or the house is broken(!) all UK landlords face a lengthy and costly eviction process, often sending good money after bad, while keeping up those mortgage payments!! As for Poland...I know little about the rental market here, only that a young couple I know who are renting have just received their notice to quit in 3 months time, and they have not even contemplated hanging around, not paying rent, changing locks etc....maybe I should suggest this to them if Polish law really is so pro-tenant?? If they were in Uk, the landlord could NOT force them to move without a court eviction order...which takes easily the 4 months that Harry refers to...so if anything both Poland AND UK rental market favours the tenant??

Rental market in its infancy??????? That's some OLD infant!!! My parents were landlords when I was a baby!! And they were by no means pioneers of property trends!! Maybe the difference in UK is that the majority of people with a decent job will try to get a mortgage and BUY a property... because if you are not a house owner you tend to be treated like a second class citizen when it comes to banks and credit ...so what do you do for a living Falkster?? Just curious! Obviously not property developer!! Oh, just read your profile...an architect, no less?? So you should know better about the UK property market, rental or otherwise, and if you were wise you would have bought into it before the price rises...these were easy to forecast in many parts of the UK...no crystal balls needed...just balls needed..perhaps this was the problem?

Life / Cigarette Smoking in Poland [146]



Please look up Allen Carrs book Easyway to Stop smoking.....it will explain to you EXACTLY why you smoke...Nobody enjoys smoking! To prove me right or wrong, read the book!!! Not meaning to get anyones back up....I smoked rollies for years!


Nicotine is a deadly poison, used effectively as an insecticide..It's an extract from a plant indiginous to South America and from the same genus as deadly nightshade. It is one of the most addictive drugs known to mankind, and gradually destroys the immune system, causes breathlessness and lethargy and kills more than one in three of its victims! (More if you happen to be an aphid!!). It tastes bad and systematically destroys the nervous system, causing insecurity and lack of confidence (never mind heart disease, cancer, respiratory disease, circulatory...) It costs the average addict £50000 in a lifetime and what does it do for you?? Absolutely NOTHING! What high do you get from this drug?? Absolutely NONE!! Email info@allen-carr.pl or phone 022 621 36 11 (Warsaw) for a 90% chance to quit???

Life / Cigarette Smoking in Poland [146]

Thought that would get attention of a horticulturalist...I have geology degree so not qualified to argue on plant genus...quote from internet...(but technically if you get your nicotine fix from an aubergine, then it's same genus as deadly nightshade, right?)! But, irrelevant anyway...you only smoke cause you are addicted to nicotine!! You hate the taste, you hate the cost, you hate the smell, you hate the slavery, you hate the toll on your health...and it takes just about a week to break the cycle!! In that week you may choose to kill everyone close to you, but if you survive the week (and your loved ones do, and you don't get arrested) you will start to recover...really is that simple!

Life / Cigarette Smoking in Poland [146]

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JUST quoting my source (google)


No intention of joining the born again anti smoking brigade! I smoked form the age of 12 until I was 30, then quit for 5 whole glorious years, in which I took up running, walking, camping, riding, cycling, surfing....Wow! Couch potato conversion in one simple move!! Then, like an ass (no pun intended!!) I started smoking again to p*ss off my then husband...it worked..we got divorced within the year! Another 7 years of Golden Virgin, before I found the same book in the airport (Easyway) just after Christmas. I cried when I finished the last page cause I knew I could do it....but smoking is still so fresh to me I have no intention to berate you for "choosing" to smoke. Only to offer you hope???

MASS MURDER??? Have you GOT a chainsaw then?

Life / Cigarette Smoking in Poland [146]

Kill with a teaspoon?? Week one without a cigarette?? I could kill with just a look! Week 2 without a cigarette?? The battle is over! And you have no need to worry about being tempted to smoke again by your well-meaning friends...you don't have any friends left!

Seriously...physical withdrawal from nicotine is actually so slight it is almost indistinguishable from hunger! All the rest is pretty much psychological! And by the end of the third week, your body has made the minor adjustments needed for you to function without nicotine. The moodiness is only caused because nicotine takes over the sites in your brain's chemical message pathways usually occupied by seratonin and dopamine...you get a bit angry, then tearful, then angry, then tearful etc as your brain adjusts the levels of the natural chemicals it needs....(again, I,m a geology major, not a biologist, so don't grill me on this stuff!)... If you FULLY understand WHY you smoke....you will be able to stop easily ...please read the book? It's a kinda magic!! Or try one of his (money back guarantee!)clinics? Google Allen Carr for your nearest clinic....

You maybe like the smell of smoke? But remember your first ever cigarette?? It TASTED vile! Turned you green, left you giddy?? That's because it DOES taste vile! It's POISON...back to the insecticide!

That's me DONE on this subject....I'm sounding far too zealous!! But if I,m ever craving nicotine again...I shall head straight for those aubergines! (How do you light them??)

Life / Cigarette Smoking in Poland [146]


I like lobster, but I don't have to walk round with 20 of them in my pocket!!


Cool just suck aubergines then!!...it's only the nicotine that any smoker is after...so throw away the fags! Nicotine itself may not cause cancer etc...but smoking does!!


That's not MY number...if you want MY phone number you got to send me a photo first...if you get through the good-looking radar...you get my number (few have made it thus far!)

Damn right every smoker will quit..100%...pretty hard to keep smoking in a hospital bed attached to an oxygen mask, or after your funeral!! EVERY smoker thinks it's hard to quit...anyone who needs a helping hand...just recommending some help for you..

Real Estate / Problems of renting in the Polish market [46]


Sorry if I kicked you where it hurt?? And maybe you're right ....as I HAVE got the balls to play the property game..and move to Poland alone...I can't possibly be a lady!!

Retract what you said about the UK rental market favouring the landlord (It doesn't!) and about it being in its infancy (It isn't!) and you may get a full blown apology for my below the belt remark!

Real Estate / Problems of renting in the Polish market [46]

More, there's even more while I'm ranting about the UK landlord being oh so highly favoured (Ahem!)...Did you know that if your tenant is in receipt of housing benefit (Loads of them are) and this benefit is paid direct to the landlord (seems fair??) and then the tenant is found to be fraudulently claiming this benefit (loads of them ARE!)....the LANDLORD is responsible for repaying the debt!! Now, I can see how any reasonably sane person might have thought the UK law favoured the landlord.....(DOH!).


Yes we would...we would SELL them (at a capital profit!) and bank the money and make money off the interest instead! You tenants need to understand that witout us landlords your address would be "second hedgerow on the right"....or perhaps that hole that Bubbawoo has pointed out you are busy digging for yourself????

At this point I am taking myself off for a LONG walk! I obviously am still suffering nicotine withdrawal....either that or someone touched a nerve??!

Life / Cigarette Smoking in Poland [146]


Are you being deliberately pedantic to detract from the FACT that nicotine, in the form that you choose to partake of it, is the West's number 1 killer?? Perhaps you would prefer to mainline it in its pure form if it's not dangerous...although I have been informed that if you inject the nicotine from just 1 cigarette it will kill you....I haven't tried this at home...one for Jackass TV??


How about russian roulette?? Wanna play?? Or mainlining nicotine?? Wanna be the guinea pig??


ISTHATU?? Do you smoke??? Allen Carr died of lung cancer 23 years after quitting his 100 a day habit because he was so passionate about helping other people (like me ..and you?) quit, that he spent 10 hours a day, 7 days a week surrounding himself with smokers! Roy Castle also died of lung cancer....heard of passive smoking??? Allen Carr has helped THOUSANDS of people quit...which probabaly cost him his life...greater love than this hath no man???? So i don't think LOL is appropriate....Do you??

SMOKING MAKES YOU NERVOUS...every time your pack is running low, or your mate asks for a fag, but you're down to your precious last 2...or every time you know you'll be in a situation where you will not be allowed to smoke...or every time you wake up and have to bump start your lungs before you get out of bed??


It takes a smaller dose of nicotine than of strychnine to kill a full grown rat...or MAN! ... wanna play?? ;0))
That's it...not saying a word more on it, cause as I knew just a couple of weeks ago, and as all smokers know, it IS russian roulette to continue smoking, there is absolutely NOTHING beneficial about breathing cancerous foul fumes into your lungs and ALL smokers wish they had never started....You can't Bullsh*t a bullsh*tter! Neither can I make you stop...you can choose to look into the Allen Carr thing...or not. But one choice you don't have right now is whether you light that next cigarette...you smoke it as an addict, not through choice!! Prove me wrong if you like...choose NOT to smoke it, and let me know how you get along with will power alone!! Wannaplay????! ;0)))))

Real Estate / Problems of renting in the Polish market [46]


Much more interseting topic!! My kids are STUNNING!! All seven of them!

Real Estate / Problems of renting in the Polish market [46]


Interesting...interseting....these both work too!
So...let's get serious...any landlords of Polish property out there??? Is there a strong rental market?? Seriously considering throwing in 3 UK properties and maybe investing in Poland, buy to let, ...which is why i started reading this topic ..... but I appear to have learned very little so far...(partly as a result of my own deviation) (nothing pervey there so no-one get excited ok??) anyone able to educate me??? I'm a fab student!! (Talking property now..not deviancy!). I'm also a fab landlady...as long as you keep away from the Barbie pink paint tins!

Life / Cigarette Smoking in Poland [146]


but "wisdom preserves the life of its owner" (King Solomon)


Best to keep smoking then...your sense of smell will be improved if you stop!


I did...and I was much uptighter then! Especially when I ran out of Rizzlas! Not actually at all up tight now....just EXCITED cause I feel so free!! And I'm feeling all evangelical about it, so I'm sorry...but I just so want you all to know this freedom too...and I also thought I enjoyed smoking...so, sadly, I leave all you guys to your delusions, cause I can feel you don't want to listen right now......while I get on with CELEBRATING! Ho hum!

Yipee...I'm a non-smoker! Today I ran in the woods with my dogs...and i could breath!! Yeehaa....and I'm just so darn happy that I am no longer a slave to a drug!!

I spent YEARS with a fag in my mouth and my fingers in my ears and my head in the sand, hoping, just hoping, that I wouldn't be the one to get the cancer, emphysema, heart disease, that I would be neither the "blue bloater" nor the "pink puffer"....Oh, and because I was a smoker for YEARS ...I know that actually, while defending your addiction, you're actually a teensy weensy bit jealous of those who manage to break free...while also it gives you a glimmer of hope that you wont be trapped forever????

Tomorrow??? Tomorrow I'll run again......and I'll be able to kiss my man without cringing cause I smell like an ashtray, and I'll be able to sit right through that movie cause I don't need to pause while I go for a fag, and I'll be able to taste my food, and....Hallelujah, brother...I can wake up and SMELL the coffee!

And if I get hit by a bus tomorrow??? (or even a meteorite!) I'll still be glad I didn't die a slave.......

Real Estate / Problems of renting in the Polish market [46]


...If that happened to me i would lose it.....especially if the rent was being witheld and/or the property neglected....Think I would end up in jail!! Okay...that maybe resolves that one...if we sell up all UK property I can buy a shed full of horses!! ;0) My other half will be SO pleased!!

News / The most useless things in Poland [140]

Translators?? That manage to reduce a 20 minute conversational exchange in Polish to 2 sentences in English! What was the rest of the conversation content?? Should I be paranoid here?? Were they really saying horrid things about me? Cause they sure as hell said more than anyone's prepared to tell me!!

News / The most useless things in Poland [140]

I can't get used to it...it's frustrating, irritating and rude! And I'm even more frustrated that I can't learn the language fast enough.....and don't even consider telling me to un-wind with a smoke!!! Or i might have to unleash some of the few Polish words I DO know...!

News / The most useless things in Poland [140]


It works?? Is that to help me learn Polish, speak Polish, understand Polish or chill out that I will never get to grips with Polish???

Buddhist?? Dodgy ground here....for me? Wrong religion...I'll stick with Our father, focussing really hard on the forgiving others their sins!!!
And perhaps there's another useless thing in Poland?? Confession!! Seems to me , it's ok to sin away all week, as long as you go to confession after...then you can do it all again next week!!

Life / Cigarette Smoking in Poland [146]


Ha ha! Enjoy your smoke....safe in the knowledge that health statistics for smokers are EXCELLENT!...You are far less likely to die of an age related illness!!

In the meantime Darius...will leave you to it, really, cause I can see you're getting over-defensive, and I remember oh so well being exactly so defensive of my precious precious friend Nicotine.....

But...I can see clearly now the smoke has gone......(come on, cheer up, sing along!!!)....

Oh, and just for the record...I'm STILL SMOKING IN BED!!! And just incase you don't get it...cause you appear to have misinterpreted one or two things I've said ...what I mean is...I have never smoked cigarettes in bed, or cigars, weed, or any other substance.....Just so you know....I'm just so damn HOT!! And with the lethargy gone, and the oxygen levels firing on all cylinders....Man, I'm even HOTTER! ;0)) xx

PS....on a softer note...did you know that smoking causes impotency in men? That, as your arteries clog, and blood flow is reduced...you just can't keep the blood flowing where it's needed any more....as I said...on a SOFTER note!!

Real Estate / Problems of renting in the Polish market [46]



And you said what exactly??

What you said is Polish tenants are in a better legal position than UK tenants? Or did you say that UK law favours the landlord?? NOT the same thing....It's like (now let's keep this simple...) saying "compared to Victoria Beckham, most UK women are fat" is not the same as saying "Most UK women are fat".

Keep digging!! Need a bigger shovel?

As previously stated...retract your ridiculous statements about Uk law favouring the landlord and about the rental market being in its infancy...you get a full blown apology from me......simple as that!