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Can I buy a small farm in Poland?


babylon2007 3 | 17  
31 Oct 2007 /  #1
I am from Ireland and it is my dream to own a small farm; a house with 10 or 20 hectares of farmland. The prices in Ireland are so crazy that you would need to be a millionaire to buy a small farm. When can EU nationals buy farms in Poland? I thought it was 2016 but then I read some of the emails which suggest that it will be sooner.

Or how difficult is it to get a permit to buy a farm now? thanks for any help. I choose Poland because I really like the country and I have been there several times to visit.
hello 22 | 891  
31 Oct 2007 /  #2
I don't think you can buy one now - unless you marry a Polish citizen or wait till 2016. Or you lease the land for 3 years at least (I think) and then you may buy it.
rafik 18 | 589  
31 Oct 2007 /  #3
i don't know the details but i think that you will be allowed to buy some land in the west side poland in 2011(7 years after we've joined the EU).in the east there are no restrictions on buying a farmland by a foreigner.

i maybe wrong,though
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
31 Oct 2007 /  #4
there are legal ways to buy land and houses in poland without the required permits
OP babylon2007 3 | 17  
31 Oct 2007 /  #5
I read that, depending on the area in Poland, I can buy a farm after leasing it for 3 years or 7 years. I am not sure though if this lease needed to begin before Poland joined the EU i.e. May 2004??

How difficult is it to get a permit I wonder? People say that there are always ways around these things. Maybe, because I only want a small amount of land for farming purposes, it might be a possibility.

there are legal ways to buy land and houses in poland without the required permits

Do you know someone who can give me advice on this?
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387  
31 Oct 2007 /  #6
I read some of the emails which suggest that it will be sooner.

I'm sure that if you look at the ''does and dont's'' for buying property you will find a clause that suits your purpose. Most important in your case is the fact that you wish to work the land and possibly employ others.

That's just my guess though.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
31 Oct 2007 /  #7
Quoting: babylon2007
my dream to buy a small farm and sell It for twice as much in few years

to a pole who made their money in the uk... everyones happy...
OP babylon2007 3 | 17  
31 Oct 2007 /  #8
Edited that one for you.

Very funny! But not everyone from Ireland is a developer. In any case, I have nothing against someone who wants to invest in a property and make some money. Like it or not, thats the way the world works at the moment. I myself, am not a big fan of the current system.

It does seem like a crazy world where Polish people come to Ireland to work and Irish like myself have to think about going all the way to Poland to have a little farm. What people fear in Poland has already happened in Ireland. Developers, easy mortgages, low interest rates have meant that owning your home or having some land is a dream of only the rich. In todays world, we think we are free but we really work for big multinationals to earn money and then the bank really owns our house for most of our lives. In this case, I really just want to have a little farm and it is not about the money.

In some ways, it is good the we experience part of each others countries. The Polish have been most welcome in Ireland. In fact, I think our country is a better place because they are here. When we Irish go to Poland, we learn a lot about Polish also. The Irish have spent many years abroad as emigrants so we now have similar tradition in common.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
31 Oct 2007 /  #9
have you found a property yet babylon - how did/are you going about sourcing...?
ogorek - | 165  
31 Oct 2007 /  #10
You should speak to the Germans - they have this master plan about buying half of Poland in the near future.
Polson 5 | 1,771  
31 Oct 2007 /  #11
Hmm.........at least the German gov don't support those who claim lands..... ;)
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
31 Oct 2007 /  #12
Very funny!

OK. So I'm sorry If I was wrong.

You should speak to the Germans - they have this master plan about buying half of Poland in the near future.

Now It's rather the other way around. Houses and flats in eastern Germany are often cheaper than in Poland.
OP babylon2007 3 | 17  
31 Oct 2007 /  #13
have you found a property yet babylon - how did/are you going about sourcing...?

Havent found a farm yet. To be honest, like a lot of foreigners, I have only been to major centers in Poland, Krakow, Wroclaw, Gdansk. I have been to Zakopane a few times and love the mountains. I am open to suggestions about what would be a good area to look at. Next time I go to Poland, I would like to go out the countryside and see some of the non-tourist Poland. So suggestions are very welcome. Maybe, somewhere rural in the south oor South East of Poland?
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
31 Oct 2007 /  #14
i like the north east part of pomoriskie - the area behind the tri city and up to the baltic coast - two beautiful coastlines, stunning countryside, hundreds of lakes, good transport links and airport connection and poland's foremost conurbation
inkrakow  
1 Nov 2007 /  #15
PMed you Babylon

I'm also interested in knowing how this can be arranged, especially purchasing land - any guidance would be appreciated!
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
1 Nov 2007 /  #16
PMed

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Houses and flats in eastern Germany are often cheaper than in Poland

much much cheaper

2.5mil zl for 96 sqm in sopot

3 mil zl 46 sqm in gdansk

youre avin a fakin bubble sunshine
RAJC  
4 Nov 2007 /  #17
has anyone been able tyo find out if it possible for farm in poland by EU(UK CITIZEN) ?
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
4 Nov 2007 /  #19
yes it is posible, I dont know the details, but I have watched reprtage in TV about Dutch farmers who decided to move to nord east Poland and bought farms there and live and work in peace ;) ...
Jock - | 1  
5 Nov 2007 /  #20
Although immediate, outright purchase of farmland by foreigners is not possible, there are a number of perfectly legal workarounds which will give you immediate use of the land AND long-term security.

As to where you buy your small farm, that very much depends on what you intend doing with it. A long-term investment? Somewhere to retire to? A working farm - perhaps organic? Bed and breakfast accommodation? Or maybe a combination of some of the above.

If you (or anyone else is seriously interested) please feel free to contact me by e-mail.
Krzysztof100 - | 20  
6 Nov 2007 /  #21
There is some very easy possibilities to have full security or even own a land without any permit- so nearly nobody asks about permit. I'm a lawyer so if anybody wants to do it or simply know details just e-mail me
plk123 8 | 4,150  
6 Nov 2007 /  #22
how about you two spill the beans here in the thread.
eleanoroconner 4 | 55  
8 Nov 2007 /  #23
Yes there are ways round the permit system - Google Mamdom, click on the side link "Property Guide" and then "How to Buy Polish Property". Thats the official version but I bought the book this website was selling last week and the get arounds are all in there ..... I know plenty of farmers from Cornwall and Devon who have already bought in Poland because the soil is much better for organic food.
OP babylon2007 3 | 17  
11 Nov 2007 /  #24
Eleanor, could you drop me an email at @hotmail so we can talk more on this. I am Irish and would be very interested to talk to you on this topic.
eleanoroconner 4 | 55  
13 Nov 2007 /  #25
Babylon - I am not a solicitor! Just someone who knows what other people have told me and what I have read. If you seriously need advice - and this goes for everybody - don't ask strangers on the web, get qualified legal advice. For the three purchases I have carried out so far I found my solicitors at:

mamdom.com/polishsolicitors.php
From here I have used two different solicitors but feel very comfortable with them both and ultimately if they have got it wrong, they are the ones I will sue!!!
schifo  
15 Nov 2007 /  #26
Call me "Doc" in Texas, USA (469) 556-5656. I have a farm in the mountains in the south of Poland for sale. 50 km north of Zakopane.
OP babylon2007 3 | 17  
19 Nov 2007 /  #27
Does anyone know anyone who has an organic farm in Poland and is this system of farming very popular?
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
22 Nov 2007 /  #28
is this system of farming very popular?

Its becoming quite poular in the touristy area,s where they are known as eco farms . and the poorer farmers are eco friendly for the simple reason they can, t afford to fling loads of nasty chemicals on their land....
joo who - | 100  
10 Dec 2007 /  #29
I appear to have bought a small farm in poland!!! I'm English, my husband is welsh...we are just not sure what we do next!! Possibilities are to lease for 7 years and then transfer ownership, or to get a change of use on the land to agro-touristic, then we can buy the land as it is no longer agricultural? or to get a permit to buy because you are such a wonderful farmer (evidence required!)Poland needs you now! I think?? All a bit confusing, as some parts of Poland you only need to lease for 3 years...close to germany it appears to be 7....If anyone knows more or otherwise please let me know!
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
10 Dec 2007 /  #30
bought a small farm in poland

Welcome to the club....I am in north west Poland , where is your place....?

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