History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]

I saw a 'documentary' on the History channel last night.

It spoke of Jewish insurgent groups, predominantly in Eastern Poland and near Lithuania. It had first hand accounts from Jewish insurgents.

One group specilaised in blowing up trains. The old bag reminiscing on her feats told of how the spot they were going to blow the train housed many Jews in the nearby vicinity, so they chose a spot that housed Poles. Accordingly, many dozens of Poles were executed. She had a look of mirth on her face when saying this. Why didnt they just go to some isolated spot?

If this was just one example, I wonder how many more there are.

Life / Dungeons & Dragons - big in Poland?/Who here plays it [45]


Are you from Oz mate?


Yes - you pretend to be a mediaeval style character in a made up world - great fun.

I stopped playing when my mates and I drifted apart geographically. We played every Saturday religiously. Got a bit lost when 2nd edition became superceded too.

History / What Happened in the Danzig Corridor 1939? Poles Slaughtering Germans? [133]

Thanks for the post plk. It appears the answers to Pilsudski's questions may lie in the sources contained in references 14 to 16 of plk's post on Operation Himmler.

News / March of Tolerance in Krakow [478]


Ironic really that the only manly love I see was between two Cetniks hugging and kissing each other.

The question I pose to bigots such as you is what have gay people ever done to you?

History / Identify medal from Austrian area of Poland [36]

Good point!

Herewith my search results:

KBW = Kevin "Bloody" Wilson - an aussie comedian

AL = Weird "AL" Yankovic

I suspect the medal was awarded for fan loyalty!

History / Identify medal from Austrian area of Poland [36]

Gentlemen - thank you kindly for your efforts.

My grand uncle was I believe in the Polish sappers/engineers. The picture was taken in the late 30's or just before WW2, as was the picture in my avatar, being my grandfather. Probably taken where they were from, Stanislawow. I'm unsure if he was in the Legions, but I know he was in the 1920 war and a professional soldier.

I know it's not post WW2 because he fought under the Brits and joined them thereafter. I have seen the original of this photo somewhere so I' ll try dig it out.

BTW - what is KBW and AL?

History / Identify medal from Austrian area of Poland [36]

I'd be grateful if anyone could identify this medal:

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History / Poland Around 1883 [30]

Perhaps try Baedekers travel books. I think they were around then?

Genealogy / Polish and Mongolian [30]


Thanks Lukasz. I'm not sure how to send a picture or drawing, but I'll describe it, from top to bottom:

1. a vertical outstreched feathered wing (there is an arrow pointing horizontally piercing the wing, like so "--", with the point facing left), with the tip of the wing at the top of the crest and where the wing would join to the body is at the bottom, where it joins on to a crown.

2. The crown sits normally and on the bottom, where it would sit on your head, it joins onto a shield. Some versions have a full faced knights helmet rather than a crown.

3 inside the shield (like you see some that have heraldry painted on them) there is a horseshoe with the two end bits facing vertically down and the round circumference of the U bit facing up. Just flip the "U" here upside down is the best description.

4 Diagonally crossed behind the horseshoe are two arrows, with points facing upwards, like so "X".

Hope you can help. Thanks again Lukasz! I couldnt download that link either.

Genealogy / Polish and Mongolian [30]

Thanks Lukasz. Thanks Seanus. Look forward to your replies.

Genealogy / Polish and Mongolian [30]


Sorry mate - I misread it. Ask her if she has a coat of arms (please), as I'd like to compare mine with hers. I can't find mine in any Polish heraldry literature and I'm wondering if Poles of tatar origin had different ones.

Lukasz, you're the sage of the forum - any ideas mate?

Genealogy / Polish and Mongolian [30]


Fascinating - is your missus able to trace her ancestry? Is she full or mixed?

Genealogy / Polish and Mongolian [30]

My ancestors were tatars from several centuries ago. Lukasz, are these pure blooded tatars, or mixed? Are tatars in Poland viewed as a curiosity or as normal everyday people?

History / Where do Polands non Jewish victims go? [64]


I'm surprised that this is the curriculum. Imagine the satisfaction your children will have when they are able to stand up proudly and correct their teacher when a fallacy of Polish history is put to the class as truth - believe me, it's a good feeling.

History / Where do Polands non Jewish victims go? [64]

In my respectful view, I see no need to have any particular tag to give for the deaths of Poles in WW2. If Polish Jews have had success in the marketing of their genocide under the Holocaust tag, then kudos to them. The Polish situation is known to those that matter and the people that matter who don't know will apply research and commonsense in establishing the circumstances, rather than forming a lopsided view based on a descriptive noun.

In any event, if a tag was adopted, where does one draw the line inasmuch as what is a Holocaust victim - remember, a lot of Poles died fighting and I sure wouldn't want my grandfather and granduncle lumped in as Holocaust victims.

History / Some names to the faces of brave Poles during WW2 German Invasion [24]


Please do. There's no more fetching a picture than a relative in Polish army regalia. We should have a gallery of these photos. I took the liberty of having my grandfather as my avatar.

News / Polish leader promises compensation for confiscated propery in Poland [17]

Hi Celinski,

I seem to recall you saying in another post that Poles have til the end of 2008 to make claim for compensation for land lost during WW2. Was this you? If so, do you have any info or links to commence this claim.

Thanks in anticipation of your help.

History / Poland Betrayed in WW2 [243]


You're quite right, but the question can also be asked why do non Poles come on this forum and censure those who wish to discuss matters that are intrinsically Polish, albeit historical. If it offends your sensibilities and makes you upset that we're dragging Poland down, then sorry, but you should grow a harder shell. I take your point about the modern generation needing to move on, but do you honestly think that a young, native Pole seeing these posts would seriously feel as though they were being held back in their lives by virtue of the topic being discussed?

Would you clarify what you mean by negative effect?

History / Poland Betrayed in WW2 [243]


It's not about enjoyment at all. From my perspective (Polish father lived through WW2 and fled PL thereafter) it's in some ways therapeutic to talk about these issues with people who share similar circumstances. There's no right or wrong answer - it just lightens the load by discussing it. I hope that gives you an insight on why these topics keep coming up

History / How long was Poland "lost in history"? [21]


I think Poland had latent power that it never harnessed effectively.

What do you measure power by anyway? Armed forces, political stability, foreign clout? - or a combination of all these and others.

It's a pity Poland devolved after the death of the last Jagiello. European history would undoubtedly have been different and vastly so.

It should be remembered that time passes and nations that are now all powerful fade away and memories of former grandeur again become reality.

I believe that Poland will once again adopt its paramount place in the world as what it was once described as several centuries ago - "the most human of nations". This phrase surely holds more meaning and purpose than any other.

History / Polish - Vikings relations [26]

Fascinating Lukasz

Thanks a lot for the information - really enjoyed it

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Henry, you're a scary man. Your grasp of history is, with respect, pretty weak.

The key element that you forget to mention in your critique of Poland's purported territorial grab of Muscovite land is, notwithstanding it's a myth, that Muscovy was at that stage a backwater and the land you lump in as being Russian was far from it.

Your allusion to the Polish occupation of the Kremlin as precipitating Russia's need to defend itself is just silly. YOu forget Muscovy's desires and incursions on Polish territory, to which culminated in Poland merely teaching Muscovy a lesson. The only thing Poland did that was wrong was not bringing Muscovy fully to heel.

I'll go out on a limb here and say the world would be a lot better place if it was Poland that secured hegemony over the area rather than Muscovy - think about that.

Life / What makes you proud to be Polish? [150]


Yes, your post shows you have a fantastic imagination.


Perhaps that's because you need a strong cup of hyacinth tea - I hear it's good for delusion.


Was it a silk robe? I hear the latest fashion in Poland is wearing robes and pointy hats.


Didn't you have any notes? Just goes to show that intellectual and financial poverty go hand in glove (or should that be wallet in robe?).


This makes no sense Mike!? You'll need a double dose of hyacinth tea.

Genealogy / how many know their own family histories? [139]


Lucky bastard! Mate, you must be salivating waiting for that sabre to come to you. These sabres are rare as hen's teeth and go for 10's of thousands (not that you'd ever sell it). Any chance of posting piccies of the sabre?

History / THE POLES ON THE FRONT LINES OF WWII [92]


Poles really can't win when you're on watch. Firstly some of them are accused of fighting for the Germans and the one's that did fight are accused that because of their vengeance, killing every German, it caused British pilots to be shot at whilst bailing out. In any event, it aint true. Read Zamoyski's "the forgotten few".

It mystifies me why some of you Brits carry on like this sometimes.

History / THE POLES ON THE FRONT LINES OF WWII [92]

What's going on admin? My post was deleted? Can I have an explanation please?

History / THE POLES ON THE FRONT LINES OF WWII [92]


You gave an explanation and I asked what has the purported current money making zeal of the Polish got to do with fighting for the Germans?

History / THE POLES ON THE FRONT LINES OF WWII [92]


What has the current manic money grabbers got to do with anything relating to this discussion?

History / THE POLES ON THE FRONT LINES OF WWII [92]


I admit there were traitors, and I hope they got what they deserved.

How many of them though were purely ethnic Poles is the question I've been asking? I simply dont know, but I think it's important to establish. Isnt it almost a foregone conclusion that any Polish citizen of germanic extraction would have volunteered for the Germans.