News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]


You repeat yourself here and I still don't know what you mean with that....


And you are fully right with that...I detest this idea too.
But the problem here is that Germany has some kind of power and hegemony already only because we exist.
Did you actually read what I wrote?
Germany IS the most wealthy, most populous country...being influential comes with the territory....what should we do to make you feel better?
Getting poor? Splitting into several small parts???

I actually think Germany often enough (much to often for my taste) doesn't wield her power as much as we could...instead always trying to moderate, to find compromises.

And I very much doubt Poland would do the same if they were in Germany's position...
You would NEVER alllow any other country having a say in your politics and economics at all...your "polish pride" wouldn't allow that!

News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]

Well...then what do you bring into the partnership?
You can't honestly accuse Germany of being big and rich, don't you?

If you don't like the newspapers then don't read it...nobody is forcing you.

And the german ownership of some polish press was actually a big thing back during the european football championship, remember?
It was a german owned polish paper:

And as everybody and his grandmother knows about it it's hardly a hidden secretly conspiracy, isn't it!


...and still they get the money! How come?

You want to be a partner??? Then do something else but throwing tantrums..
Where are your ideas about what Poland could do? You are only complaining all the time about what Germany does or not does...you are really obsessed, aren't you!


Another nutter...

If there really would be somthing "bad" going on do you really think we would suffer you like we actually do?

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]

Give me more than just empty speeches Seanie...an example would be nice.
Till now you are not very convincing as the Kaczinskies were the biggest bullsh*itter of them all!

PS: Behind the NATO there are no balls needed to "stand up" to a non-interested Russia.
And antagonizing Russia, the EU AND the US is maybe a sign of balls but a politician should better have a brain!

News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]


Are you talking the whole time about a russian conspiracy against poor Poland???
I could have bet you meant Germany...


They don't have to try very hard actually.
Germany is the most populous country in the EU, and the second one in Europe.
Our economy is the biggest one in Europe and the third biggest in the world..our GDP alone is the size of several smaller countries together.

You will have to bear with an influential Germany...we can't change it for you.
It's no ill will!

Do you have an idea how much power Germany gives up actually being in the union and letting other countries having so much say in it? Even if they don't bring nearly as

much "to the table"?
Would Poland ever do the same if the situation were reversed???

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]


And that's what will get you and Poland nowhere in the long run.
To reach your goals, to make an positive impression you need to be constructive.
Just centering your policy around "trampling on toes" isn't going to cut it...


Well it wasn't me posting unsupported stuff about some conspiracy and hidden secret goals and machinations about the big bad neighbour.
When I'm asking for proof or bring evidence to the contrary don't call me "obsessed".
But plain facts are the death of every conspiracy theory, aren't they...

News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]


Not assuming the worst of your economical, political and military partner whenever they happen to have a different opinion than you?

News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]


...but I try so hard not to...honestly...


I consider you anti-german because you are resistent to facts which show otherwise.
Instead of an open discussion you just repeat some odd statements without any background or statistics or articles whatsoever...that has nothing to do with factual differences but everything with anti-german conspiracy theories...


You don't happen to have a link or anything to support your statement?

And I think some Poles work in Germany too...

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]

Did you ever read the treaty?


Do you have any idea about how the democratic process works in the EU???

I doubt you have any idea at all...
You are only great in demanding...what are you giving back?
I tell you what...you want german money and german support, the EU has to jump if Warsaw whistles, especially when it goes against Russia because only Poland knows best how to handle the "beasts"...everything else is a conspiracy to betray Poland again, right? Riiiiiight!

That's your bigger picture...


If you are so unhappy...what is holding you? Don't let door hurt your back...

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]


How so?


Do you want them and their principles back?

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]


Yeah...facts...how inconvenient....


Do you think it democratic if a country of about 30 millions has the same say as a country of about 80 Millions?

Poland under the Kartoffel twins not only want the same say as the Germans, they even want to have more say...regardless that their population is much lower and that they are net beneficiaries not contributors yet...

Do you think that is fair and democratic?


Well..I say it as it is...and most European saw it and yes, it was thought as a calculation to strenghten the numbers of the Poles...it was meant that way by your Kaczinsky!

If you get ridiculed about that...well...don't blame the Germans!

How about you start looking in the mirror and not blaming every polish wart on the Germans? Just an idea....

News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]


Some links to that?

So all the support and money you get from Germany counts for nothing the moment Germany dares to have a different opinion than you? Is that "partnership" for you?

All THE LINKS I BROUGHT show clearly that Germany invests heavily in energy diversity...not only Nord Stream but Ukraine and Nabucco and several others....but Poland does nothing, just screaming and throwing tantrums...nice "partnership"!

No...you are right...we can't call it partnership, but it's not the Germans fault!


And why not? You should be able to bring polish news at least, shouldn't you?

But....wait...it's surely a conspiracy of the Germans...they bought the polish elites, ja?


Yeah...we can't sleep because we only think about how to get at you next!

Don't forget your paranoia meds...

Don't tell me...when Poland plays Germany in Football you think it's a rerun of the Battle of Grunwald!

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]


Yeah...and then blaming the Germans for it!

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]


spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,490994,00.html


How 'bout that?


Is that so...

spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,490795,00.html


How so?

Should all countries now calculate their real populations if there hadn't been any wars or would only Poland be allowed too?

Bring it on...Germany once lost 1/3 of her population during the 30 years war...can't wait....


Any links for that?

News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]


Any links to that?
Where do you get this info from?

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]


I fear not...stupid politicians are an undying breed!

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]

And I think if we throw in some stupid Germans we can make a polka...

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]

Or just stupid polish politicians..there is nothing entirely new under the sun...

News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]

Do you know that Germany and the EU will pay Millions to help Ukraine to get their pipeline infrastructure back in order? (Something they just can't afford).

rferl.org/content/EU_Ukraine_Pipeline_Agreement_Piques_Moscow/1516786.html

What is Poland going to do to help?

You see...you are mostly seen as "demander", "complainer", "chest beater"...but when work and money is needed Poland has not much to offer...maybe we just differ about what "partnership" means!

Take your germanophobic conspiracy theories elsewhere!


Is that so...

nabucco-pipeline.com/project/project-timeline/main-page-project-timeline-20090126.html

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]

....it wasn't the Navy marching on to Warsaw...I think....

News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]


Is that so....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabucco_Pipeline


Some symbolic money...remind me again, how much is Poland paying for it?

nabucco-pipeline.com/company/shareholders7/rwe-ag/rwe-ag.html

German RWE is even shareholder in the Nabucco project...how about a polish firm?


Erm...maybe I got it wrong...but the Nord Stream pipeline will be an additional source of energy, not replacing the ones already there...aren't you getting enough transit fees yet?

News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]


Evading questions??? Am I here for discussion or not?

It rather seems you just don't like the rational reasoning and prefer your Bad-Germany-against-innocent-naive-Poland conspiracy theories!


I doubt you ever tried to see things from the german perspective or you wouldn't spout such nonsense!

No, it is NOT a german takeover of Poland!


WHAT IF ONLY ONE COUNTRY OWNS NEARLY ALL OF THESE ENERGY RESOURCES???

What can Poland offer Germany instead?

Oh and Germany is also supporting South Stream which is if I remember it right outside of Russia at all...


Well...you didn't had to..nobody was forcing you!
Maybe you would be better off all alone for yourself?


Why is Poland so keen on it? Could it be you are going to miss the transition fee?
Or that you with this pipeline would have a leverage if the Germans wouldn't behave accordingly to polish wishes?


Oooh puuuleeeeeze...the eternal victim! *yawn*

You better get rid of this paranoia of yours or you will feel never at home in the new, unified Europe!

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]

To much vodka? :)

News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]


Because it isn't a deal "against" Poland?
WHY THE HELL SHOULD GERMANY DOING SUCH A THING???
Why did we promote you into the EU and in the NATO???

The pipeline is only one of the projects to diversify our energy net...we need alot of energy and we need even more in the coming years....The fight for energy hasn't even geared up now but it will soon.

Poland was offered a partnership and even branches from the pipeline to Poland proper...but all you could do was decline, humpf and grumble about a second Molotov-Ribbentrop pact because it can't be anything else, can't it!

Grow up man!
Poland isn't the center of the universe and not all around you only dream of punching you!


How horrible!
Nobody forces you to pay german products and I'm sure when Poland comes up with a nice idea Germans will buy it happily too...that's how the market works...no german conspiracy here!


And???
What about the Poles who buy land and invest into Eastern Germany???

Face it...the border region was always heavily mixed and with Germans over yours in Poland and Poles over here in Germany the natural way as it was for millennia just comes back...

Where is the problem?

News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]


Yeah...you always demand and expect...only!

You get so much support from the Germans....without Germany you wouldn't even in the EU...most of the financial support going Polands way during the next years is german money..

And what do you offer?
Not much more but pettiness, old grudges, suspicion!
And of course every german decision can only be anti-polish, right? Every german politician just thinks about how to be mean to the Poles, day in day out...nothing else matters for the german gov, ja?

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]


What's wrong with that? Working and regularly paying your taxes IS the best ordinary way to be a useful citizen...at least in my corner....what do YOU advise instead?

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]

Hmmm....coloring and hair would hint about strong celtic heritage...

News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]

Well..you must agree...Polands politicians are not famous for their smartness and much of Polands misfortune is due to incompetence of their ruling class...

Just watch back the years during the Bush time...Poland never left a possibility to annoy their european partners in favour of a widely disliked Bush...now...what brought it them?

Bush is gone, their european partners are still there...

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

It can't be a race or it would be not work to convert.
Nobody can convert to another race! :)

The jewish publizist Michel Friedmann married some years back a german-non jewish talk show hostess. She converted to Judaism and they have now two children if I remember it right.

In jewish law the the children are now jewish too since the mother is jewish...but nonetheless everybody else would say it's crap...these children are half german ethnically...the mother is only a full blooded german convert!

Are the children real jews at all?

I think you either are a race/ethnie OR a religion...you can't be both!

Life / Damn proud of being (half) Polish [77]


A real US mix then...:)

Life / Damn proud of being (half) Polish [77]

We are all white native Europeans you mean?

Whoa...sometimes you get called a racist just for admitting there is such a thing:

miss-polonia-deutschland.de/pl/index.htm