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From: California
Speaks Polish?: yes

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Elssha   
29 Jan 2009
USA, Canada / WHY SO FEW POLISH RESTAURANTS IN AMERICA? [44]

I guess our food is considered to formal for some, as it is not fried, and fast.

I think it's more of a 'takes too damn long' problem than a formality thing. I love to make polish food but often turn to making asian because it's just so much faster. Plus, Polish food is hard to make in small portions. It's meant for family, so making it for just yourself makes it hard (golombki, pierogi, etc) as it takes almost as much work to do a full family portion as it does making just enough for one.
Elssha   
29 Jan 2009
Genealogy / Grandchildren of Polish Immigrants [26]

lol
it's cooked different ways (or not cooked) due to the above.
Just cuz you're too thick to realize that is not my problem.
Elssha   
29 Jan 2009
Work / Medical University of Lublin [30]

several reasons, including the fact that I do enjoy Poland (i'll PM you more on that if you'd like). And I'm not certain i want to return, but as of now that is the plan. Also, med school here is like $40,000/yr for tuition alone. A friend is going into a program that'll run him near $60,000... though i seriously hope that DOES include room and board, or at least books.

My program is gonna run me ~$20,000 and I get to see europe while I'm at it. It's a LOT easier to head over to italy for a few days from PL than it is from the US (the jetlag alone makes you think twice, and I won't mention ticket prices)... specially since I know there are tons of student tours from Lublin that are both cheap and fun ^_^.
Elssha   
29 Jan 2009
Genealogy / Grandchildren of Polish Immigrants [26]

It seems that they were not encouraged to learn Polish.

They probably weren't. Before recent times, the idea was 'move and fit in' vs the more modern view of 'move and try to stay unchanged'. People in that time WERE encouraged to be american and ignore their past.

Some argue this new way of trying to retain one's cultural identity (the whole ______-american after the initial generation) is ruining the states today. Since everyone is trying to pull into their minority/ethnic groups the american unity is destroyed.

Personally I like the move to rediscover your roots, so long as its kept in perspective vs reincorporation with the ancestral land.

Quick RUN, there is nothing more irritating than a yanky root seekers who has just discovered their "heritage".

Bigot much? The difference is that the US largely lacks a long and stable culture unlike those in EU. Also, since all the main minorities are so insistent on keeping their culture (Mexicans, for instance) others feel deprived for not having a similar root to pull from. Thus the need to find said roots.

How on EARTH can community, political views, perceptions, behavioural traits be expressed through food.

You're kidding, right? Look up Japanese tea ceremony, look up why some nations won't eat certain foods (cow/pork) even though they are tasty and available, look up native amarican cooking practices, etc.

earlyfoods expressed everything there was about a population (now it's a bit diff with mass production and such high immigration practices). Hunts were communal, and thus the community had to share the spoils. In africa (for a modern example) there are villages that make this crappy porrage stuff that takes the whole village to prep and everyone takes it from the same place. One person/family wouldn't be able to produce it.

Political and religious views (historically largely synonymous) impacted what a culture could/should eat, and so on
Perceptions also fall under the former, though also translate to what people ate when, special ways some things were prepared, etc. My grandmother still has the superstition that an egg shell holds the chick's spirit, thus insisted I always crush the shell after using the egg to let the spirit free... I do that automatically now.

Behavior traits are practically what makes food so different in different parts of the world. And I don't just mean ingredients. Sushi looks like it does because they needed ways to make food compact. If i'm not mistaken Cornish pastries came about because men needed a lunch for work that they could eat quickly and without lugging utensils and other stuff that might fall and spill.
Elssha   
29 Jan 2009
USA, Canada / WHY SO FEW POLISH RESTAURANTS IN AMERICA? [44]

You must be kidding me, Pierogi are the most known polish food to Americans... NOT RUSSIANS! They do not describe them as ravioli (italian), they know pierogi, are just that pierogi. They are so popular, they are in nearly every American food store. Many American companies make the frozen varieties.

Depends where. If you live in a neighborhood with a polish community larger than the russian one, pierogi will be polish. Before there was a relatively recent influx of russian immigrants I did have to explain pierogi via Italian or Chinese equivalents... cuz when I said 'pierogi' I got the WTF looks or blank stares.

I live in socal. Not only are pierogi russian, imported ham (polska polędwica and kabanosy) is also in a pile known as the 'russian deli meats' in stores that even bother having said imports. Do you honestly think store owners will bother figuring out what's what? Please.

Ethnic stores have things labeled more correctly, but they are few and far between. Dad has to drive over an hour to Hollywood to go to a (I think it's) Hungarian store that sells his beloved polish beers, wherein we also find most of our polish food stuffs.

I'd kill to have a great Polish restaurant close to home. Unfortunately, there's a lack of Poles and Polish restaurants in Southern California.

Where in socal? I know there's a whole parafia in Hollywood and apparently some other one around San Diego. I know of 2 restaurants and have been warned away from them...

Just because America is supposed to be the land of junk food and fast food, with the UK close behind, it doesn't mean they are our respective national dishes.

Name a healthy (if you can't even a non-fastfood will do) national American dish...

Unless you are familiar with Native American stuff, I assume you're running through quite a short list, trying to find something that wasn't imported or imported and slightly altered...

there's a good reason for that ^_^
Elssha   
29 Jan 2009
Food / Asian food - is it easy to find in Poland (particularly Lublin)? [39]

pft... i was under the impression most things were, nowadays ^_^
what about the other stuff? Can they be found in Lublin or are they more of a 'trip to Warsaw' kind deal... or is it one of those things that you just can't get? I mean, half the stuff i routinely buy is from ethnic stores cuz the big markets (leklerk-type, though I know I've butchered the spelling) only have a couple stereotyped items at highly elevated prices (some soy sauce, maybe some rice vinegar for 3x what i pay, some seasoning packets and so on)
Elssha   
29 Jan 2009
Work / Medical University of Lublin [30]

It's not just the words. Even if I know the meaning of the words, I still can't read effectively in Polish. It's like reverting back to when you were just learning to read... you see the word (takes you a moment to connect the letters to the word), you extract its meaning, read the rest the same way, then try to figure out the sentence's meaning before moving on to the next. I can't just scan the page and grasp the meaning instantly. I don't see t h a t when I normally read, just the word 'that'. In polish, I have to put the peices together and often sound it out to connect a series of letters with a word I know.

There's no way I could absorb medical texts that way... I'd never get caught up.
And even if my reading got significantly better I still process stuff in english, not polish.
I'm also planning to go back to the US thereafter and practice here (unless something significant happens), so learing to think in polish only to return to the states would be silly.

Plus there's that whole 'USMLE is in english' thing...
^_^
Elssha   
29 Jan 2009
Food / Asian food - is it easy to find in Poland (particularly Lublin)? [39]

Berlin is kinda far from Lublin...
I don't really need restaurants so much as ingredients, AKA stores that sell bamboo shoots and eel sauce and rice vinegar...
Oh, and a wok. Can you find good size (cheap) wok's there, or should I bring my own?
Elssha   
29 Jan 2009
Love / polish boyfriend has wrecked my english [48]

I think it's just people's tendency to conform to norms... you hear it used a certain way and understand its meaning thus begin to see it as proper. It's how we all learned our first language... long before someone broke things down into nouns and verbs and all those wonderful tense tables >_<

I've a annoying ability to assimilate accents...Only for so long as the people around me use said accent, mind you, so doing an impression a week later (when the ability might be fun) proves impossible.

Most of my life I've lived in California... moved there from Poland at 8... went to germany for 10 days when I was 16... dormed with people from liverpool (only people around who spoke fluent english vs the stuff taught in a classroom). 1st day, couldn't understand them half the time (specially when they started speaking a mile a second) 2 or 3rd day mom calls... I say 'hi mum' and proceed to insist for the next ten min (after realizing I simply cannot shift back to my beloved california accent) that I am not a friend helping her daughter play a prank. -___-;
Elssha   
29 Jan 2009
Food / Asian food - is it easy to find in Poland (particularly Lublin)? [39]

lol... maybe it changed owners, cuz that's the one i went to in 2000 or so in my post up top (the one about the weird kung po)

the menu still looks similar to what it was... inc the bad english that made me laugh at the time... Here we're used to the menu being in chinese with eng translation... not polish (native language) with english subs... struck me as hella odd ^_^

zlotysmok.lublin.pl/index.php-wh=rch.htm

The free delivery, however, is new... I think. Might try it when i go back, see if it's gotten better.
As for the products, do ytou mean in regular stores? Nothing like a dedicated ethnic store around there? Guess I'll have to bug family to take me to warsaw on a semi-regular basis. *adds 'big bottle of Marukan' and '50-sheet nori' on her to-pack list*

^_^
Elssha   
27 Jan 2009
Work / Medical University of Lublin [30]

medicine in PL would be difficult.
I can speak polish and read (if I don't mind spending as much per page as I spend per chapter in englins), but only conversational words. I also have a tendency to revert to the US way of using 'you' vs 'sir'... something that makes my grandparents twitchy.

I'm not sure how you even say 'vertebrate' or 'carnivore' in PL... let alone full blown medical terms. So yeah, even though my mom tells me many things sound similar (latin roots), I'd still look like a full blown idiot.
Elssha   
26 Jan 2009
Work / Medical University of Lublin [30]

oh, i speak it...
not too hot with reading (slow as hell) but I can communicate well enough. I can usually pass for Polish till I pull a "cram, don't know a word so let's stick a polish ending on an american one and expect everyone to understand" stunt... I've done it enough that the aforementioned friends stopped trying to correct me. I should do fine with patients after I learn a few medically-correct terms for bodily functions...

Anyway, I pmed you about those dorm pictures... still kinda curious.
Oh, and are the EU and US eng programs joined or separated? I forget if that was in one of the deleted posts (even if it is med uni related).

PS~ finally got an account so Elssha = DN