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Bratwurst Boy   
21 May 2009
History / Germans Exiles & Museum in Berlin in the eyes of Poles and UE nationals. [106]

Yes i do and i dont know if she's a friend of Merkel, deffinitely a political associate.

They are close. Without Merkel and Steinbach being so good buddies it wouldn't had worked out!

No it doesnt,

Yes it does.
No german point of view is acceptable in the today Poland's mainstream.
It's about time we stop caring and do what we think is right regardless what you think!
Be it business contacts with the Russians or remembering our war victims!
It's really about time...no ***** footing around you anymore. I myself losing my patience when I see idiots like Luki posting their crap here all the time.

*shows finger* :)

I wouldnt mind an exiles museum but if its run by a closet nazi with anti-polish agenda then we clearly have a major problem.

Yes you do...for you EVERYBODY working for such a center is automatically a neo-nazi with an anti-polish agenda....as I said...it comes with the job!

PS: How about some proof about Steinbach being a neo-nazi for once?
Bratwurst Boy   
21 May 2009
History / Germans Exiles & Museum in Berlin in the eyes of Poles and UE nationals. [106]

Neo-nazi anti polish bvtch that she is,

You call a best friend of Merkel "neo nazi"???
That is sooooooooo lame....:)
But even so, I think she won't lose any sleep over
Poles disliking her. That comes with the job...

There is nothing to admire about her.

I would have to think twice about her if you would!
Bratwurst Boy   
21 May 2009
History / Germans Exiles & Museum in Berlin in the eyes of Poles and UE nationals. [106]

don't be surprised that sombody will make coalition against you ... inside of EU.

You can try what you want Luki...and I'm sure the moment you show you are committed, you take over some of the costs, become even a net contributor you might even be heard, it's only fair! :)

PS: But still that wouldn't and shouldn't have any influence if and how a country commemorates its victims.
I don't see what a polish led EU-alliance could do about it? Explain please...
Bratwurst Boy   
21 May 2009
History / Germans Exiles & Museum in Berlin in the eyes of Poles and UE nationals. [106]

Logic knocking on Lukis door: Germany will always be a dominant country!
We are the second most poplous country (second only to Russia) and the biggest and most important economy, the biggest military and alot of other "biggest" and "most". No "game" needed...

Get used to it!

...oh...and there is nothing you can do to change it...:)

rather different kinds of domiantion.

Yeah...how bad of us!
Why don't you try it yourself instead of pointing yellow and green with envy and resentment to your neighbours???
Bratwurst Boy   
21 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

If only he could find a breakfast cereal in the shape of little German soldiers, so he could have them for breakfast. Maybe put some ketchup on them so they look bloody. Freaky-deaky man!

Bratwurst Boy   
21 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

I just imagine Luki sitting all alone in his dark corner, rocking for and back, frothing at the mouth, mumblin: "We should had killed them all! We should had killed them all! We should had killed them all"

If it makes you feel better...you NEVER had a say in it nor any means to do it. You never had and never will have.

Any attack from you will only result in the world looking the other way when you get partitioned again.
So enjoy the reality as it is, it could be much worse..:)
Bratwurst Boy   
21 May 2009
History / Germans Exiles & Museum in Berlin in the eyes of Poles and UE nationals. [106]

Some Poles seem to think we should ask them if we are allowed...:)

Support

The Centre Against Expulsions has been supported by a number of human rights activists, historians, political scientists and authors as well as other people[citation needed].
Among these supporters are the United Nations' first High Commissioner for Human Rights Dr. José Ayala Lasso, German chancellor Angela Merkel[13], Nobel literature laureate and Holocaust survivor Imre Kertész, Joachim Gauck, Milan Horacek, former Austrian crown prince Otto von Habsburg, prominent German rabbis Walter Homolka, Eckart Klein, and historians such as Guido Knopp, Hungarian novelist György Konrád, historian Michael Wolffsohn, Hans Maier, Christian Tomuschat and Alfred M. de Zayas

To f*ucking bad...
Bratwurst Boy   
21 May 2009
History / Germans Exiles & Museum in Berlin in the eyes of Poles and UE nationals. [106]

Erika Steinbach for chancellor!
I admire tough ladies :)

Interesting link in that context:
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/5350777/Russia-threatens-to-bar-Europeans-who-deny-Red-Army-liberated-them.html

I hope Poles don't want to command how Germans can commemorate their victims too...
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

Anyways, gotta catch some z's. Some people here have to go to work tomorrow.
Goodnight, lads.

Yeah, me too...good discussion again! Till later :)

*takes helmet and cloak, fastens sword belt*
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

Alot were accepted in America and in the UK, an names changed an given army jobs especially in the US army

One Nazi helped to firestart the NASA and to bring a man on the moon! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

Bismarck was just one of the primary culprits, he wound Germans up to a point where there was no return,

WHAT???
What are you talking about???

Germany would have united anyway,

How?

By the time of Bismarck Germany had its history written down for another 60 years.

???
Sokrates....a honest advise from me, please get a grip on your Prussia/Bismarck hatred. You are losing your objectivity and are getting things just plain wrong. Your arguments losing quality and value...not good for a successful discussion.

I don't know what you read and who told you all that but I would be interested to know.
Would you please be so kind and give me some links which support your strange ideas?
Thank you
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

I already did, he was an extention of the Prussian school of thought were military might and discipline are means to political success, "blood and iron" his words BB arent they?

And how is that Bismarcks fault??? Hitler was no Prussian! He grew up in Austria, a wannabe artist!

PS: Bismarck didn't fail Sokrates. He made with skill, brain and determination a nation out of heap of little statelets and later kept the peace through smart alliances!

With him Germany thrived...it was his death and an unexperienced King who couldn't fill the big man's foot steps!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

However, because of historical issues and too many strong nationalisms
it is currently not possible and the immense potential that Europe still has will not be
fully utilized.

And whose fault is that?

Poles had been only to happy to change sides as Bush and Rumsfeld tried to split Europe...man you were so easy! People were disgusted, watching this.

Some attention and a bone and surely you were salivating and wagging your tail like a good poodle!

With you we never will build up a strong Europe!
You are just not committed as we are...
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

was an organization of Prussian nobles and knights established

And?

Definitely not but Poland had all the political means to either keep Germany in parts or help Austria unite it, Austria was in 15-17 century a very pro-Polish state and who knows how our relations would look today.

No, you hadn't or you would have at least tried!
Give it up Sokrates! :)

Thats mostly because of the communism and partianlly intentional effort of the West

Och nö...not another polish conspirator talking about "the west" plotting to do all possible bad things to the poor Poles...

Yes but it was born in Prussia of kings and nurtured by Bismarck,

WHAT???? Now you are losing it...please explain your link from Bismarck to the Nazis and Hitler!

but the trauma is there even if its not immidietaly haunting you at night.

Erm...please...stop talking sh*it and discuss seriously or I will need to ignore you like the other clown here.
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

And Polish Commonwealth required half a century of savage warfare with everyone around it to even become weakened, whats your point here?

Not because you didn't want but you lacked the means, the skill and the determination!
You would never had made a polish Prussia! :)
Europeans still now remember Prussia, only nerds know about the polish commonwealth...sorry...but true.

PS: I'm reading the Ukraine thread...interesting to read that the Poles there behaved the same like they accuse the Germans of...:)
You know, forced polonization, destroying of the ukrainian elite and culture etc. really interesting!

what matters is that you failed.

Not really as it was never a viable idea/option anyhow...the Nazis were forced to go on on rampage till they fell dead...it would have never worked in peace on the long run. It was a deadborn madness from the start.

Prussia was more confrontational than most powers

Really!

How do you think got the british and the french their world spanning empires? Through asking? Knocking politely? The Spanish? (south american genocide for gold anybody?). Even the Dutch? They got fat on the backs of slaves!

The US killed the natives to resettle the lands with immigrants from Europe....I think you are losing the proportions here!
Prussia never had colonies nor were part of the slave trade, it emancipated Jews and even encouraged immigration like from the hugenots.
Your image of Prussia is so one-sided and biased it's no fun!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

Prussia was doomed to failiure from the beginning

Really?

It existed till 1945 and it needed a whole alliance to dissolve it...where stems your wisdom from I ask?

Come and get it.

Nah...you are still crying about our last try from 60 years back...we can't stand another century!

If Napoleon managed to conquer the entire Europe and establish
an empire under the French rule then we wouldn't have the First
and Second World Wars, so I wouldn't be too grateful to the Prussians.

Well...says it all doesn't it.
The ones freedom fights are the other ones...what?

Oh and for sure would we have had wars...lots of it!
But interesting that you are don't averse empires per se, interesting!

it would last only as long as its military success would,

if you want to have a powerfull state for a few centuries than all of those you mentioned were succesfull, for a pre-determined period of time.

Well...that's human history for you!
Where was Prussia different???
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

Another useful scape goat...the "bad bad prussians!"

Just for your consolation...if it hadn't been Prussia then it would had been another german state...there were many and the historical development demanded someone taking control.

PS: The Prussians once helped Europe to get free of Napoleon...you know...the same tyrant who the Poles couldn't do enough licking his feet/boots!

because they tried to brute their way across,

That is hardly a sign of failure. Or you would call Rome and the british/french empires and the polish commonwealth failures too.

Prussia and Bismarck still left their marks even today and especially Bismarck is seen as the most crafty, skillfull and important politician of the 19th century...some failure!

We wandered into german lands? Like the German Berlin? Oh wait Berlin was a slavic settlement.

See what I mean?
You have a total selective point of view!
Yes Sokrates, the Slavs were the late comer, they wandered westwards into germanic land, every history book will tell you that!

Everything what is Poland was first german land!
Already 2000 years back and now pack your bag and leave my land please!

if Germany tried EU in the first place all of Europe would have bent over Poland included and Berlin would today be Washington of United States of Europe, but thanks to Prussia you blew your grand chance, probably forever, Germany was one of very few states in Europe that could have pulled that off.

You don't believe that honestly, don't you?
Especially Poles would had fighted any german idea tooth and nail...probably talking "germanization" again....
Even now you have problems with others in the EU and can't help but lick US/UK's boots.

Good luck!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

Germany made such great attempts to grab and hold these lands and after nearly four centuries we're still here, this too is the legacy of Bismarcks failiure.

Well...it was the slavs who wandered westwards into german lands, why are you forgetting this every time?
You and your people have a very selective memory!

And I really don't want to discuss Bismarck with you Sokrates...you have your opinion and I have mine...

That Polish culture survived on these areas is testament to how dynamic we are even under pressure.

Or this "pressure" is in big parts a cooked up myth to build polish nationalism!
Ever thought about that?
Our cultures and people lived for millennia now side by side and I don't buy that "big bad german monster" what is always out to eat polish babies if I'm honest!

It was Poles who ended this with erasing german history (something which the other way around never happened under "germany tyranny") and even now want to have even more of Germany...don't give me any more **** Sokrates!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
News / Kaliningrad. Problem, Threat or Opportunity for Poland? [185]

Why are you laughing Crowie? The only ones with reason are we!
Till now it's only the Serbs who are the laughing stock of Europe...losing a whole core territory to the arabs, muslims, whatever, leaving it to them just like that, losing it to them, outbred by them!

YOU ARE EURABIA!
Don't dirty whole proud white nations like the Germans or the Poles with your own faults!

You dream of slavicization of Europe but can't even drive your enemies out of your "holy land".
Do you have an idea how ridiculous you are???

LOL

Then, when so called west start to crumble,

ROFL!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]

not at all - logical !

Only when you believe that Hitler is widely seen as a hero...do you ?

Admission of what?

Any wrong doings

And exactly what do you want to remember?

The millions expelled and killed during the forced marches! (12 millions of them being Germans)
Don't tell me you never heard of the being build center against expellations and the whole bruhaha with Poland?

Did I said that?

...not with these words :)

Learn polish and you will have plenty material for your lectures.

So there is self criticism in Poland???
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / Poland and Ukraine [240]

You should do the same BB there is place in Berlin for bronze statue of Her Hitler or whomever from the long list of the Fallen Heroes of the III Reich .

lame

Reading this thread I'm just mightily reminded about the hate and venom spitting Poles since the first plans were made public to remember the millions forcefully expelled.

If we would had waited for any admission or acceptance or even cooperation it would still be unborn.

Is there anything Poles would ever admit besides being genetically brave and good and upstanding and having the sun shining out of their arses???
I never read such a thing...
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

We know Luki...but you aren't and you haven't, live with it...accept the realities! :)
We don't even have borders anymore...if I would want to I could re-settle in Breslau without a thing hindering me.
All this griping, ******** and grudge bearing is so pointless...

And yeah...move on!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

Far more Germans have Polish blood,

Well...you can call them Poles with german blood too! :):):)

Drang nacht Berlin :))

And why is that a good thing compared to "Drang nach Westen?

You know Sokrates? With such little hints you give yourself away.
Don't whine about what the Germans did or not did, you do happily the same if you can!
You are not better...:)

Poker is poker and in my opinion thay paide little price for what they have done.

And who has asked you Luk?
Still fighting the war? Who cares...