Food / Where do you go shopping for food in Poland? [26]


Are you sure? :)


We're still talking about food, right?.


I think they are great too.

Food / Where do you go shopping for food in Poland? [26]

Maybe that's why fruit and veg taste much better from the farmer's markets than from the super markets but I do not have a PhD to justify my opinion, does it still count? :)

That's gross about the not washing hands but the farmers market is much better, in my experience.

Real Estate / Construction (Poland Vrs where you are from) [66]


I used that for most of my childhood :D
I had forgotten about those ;)

-------------------------------------------------------

Here is the standard grey finish you get when buying a new build in Poland.
You have to get someone to finish the rest yourself or do it yourself.
This is a flat in Krakow.
There were a couple of problem.
I refused to except it, on behalf of someone else,
until they moved the socket in the last picture,
away from under the water pipe.
And the interior doors were not hung, as was stated in the contract.

I think this might be interesting for people who are not used to the grey shell.
The developer will fit it out but at twice the price of the going rate.

Just something of note, in the photo of the bathroom, the hot water metre is there on the left, it sends a radio signal to another metre clock in the common use hall, so people do not have to trample into your place to take a reading.

• 
  Daves_bathroom_3.jpg
  
• 
  IMG_3186_4.JPG
  
• 
  socket_below_water_2.jpg
  

Life / How do Poles feel about non whites/non Slavs living in Poland? [150]


Sure no problem.

I really only just took the original post and turned it round.

I get the impression some people live in a bubble and should get out more :)

This is an interesting topic but it was intended to insult rather than question, you can tell by the use of IQ 77.

But it is worth exploring this topic and I will be checking in but for now I must go walking up the mountains, it is amazing how many Mosques you can see from the top (kidding).

I would not like to have Muslems singing their prayers from the tower but I care not what invisble friends people choose to worship as long as it does not interfere with me (asking the impossible, I know).

Life / How do Poles feel about non whites/non Slavs living in Poland? [150]

I wonder how many Poles live in non white/non Slavic countries.
Including the ones that are just exported with an IQ of 77?


In Poland?

This is about other countries, isn't it?

History / Poland and Lithuania [161]


What makes you think that Lithuania pretend that Lithuanian Poles do not exist?.
I think Lithuanians are very aware of their Polish population.

History / Poland and Lithuania [161]


Very interesting map, I have been all over Lithuania but never south of Vilnius.
I never knew there were so many Polish Lithuanians.
It does justify Lithuanian and Polish signs being put in place.


Ha ha ha ha, there was a E.U. funded bus to educate people about equality for other people and they planned to raise the rainbow gay flag in Vilnius but there was strong objection and they were not allowed to do anything and practically run out of the country


A lot of "Polish" from Lithuania want Vilnius to be part of Poland (again).

--------------------------------------------------------

I think Lithuanains are afraid of loosing there country again.
And now they are E.U. this will probably change, I think but it takes time.

History / Poland and Lithuania [161]


Absolutely! I meant for people to see it that way.
But i do think because Lithuania is a small country (About the same size as Ireland) it tends to be ignored by a lot of other countries.


Yeah i know what you mean, it is a long hard history...
but it might be interesting if we had the two histories, Polish and Lithuanian?.


Lithuania has had a difficult time and it does get unnoticed but they do not help themselves by hating everyone (I will stop there as this thread is about Poland and Lithuania and not about me and Lithuania).


This is the bit I get confused at, there are not 50% Poles in Lithuania or Vilnius.

And according to Wiki
Poles (6.3%) in Lithuania and
Poles are the largest minority, concentrated in southeast Lithuania (the Vilnius region). Russians are the second largest minority, concentrated mostly in two cities. They constitute sizeable minorities in Vilnius (14%)

(I think that is Poles and Russians together?)

But it is not


Being Polish.

Could you explain what you mean, please?.

Life / How much do you spend a week (or month) on food shopping in Poland? [19]


This is absolutely fine provided you have a kitchen?.
Do you shopping in the farmers markets and you both can eat very well on this money.
And don't buy meat, it is the most expensive.



Dreadful indeed, try to remember your body is a kind of machine and needs good fuel.
I know it can be depressing when you are undernourished
but try to get down to the farmers market with 40PLN and you should be able to make a stew that'll last the both of you for 3 days.

History / Poland and Lithuania [161]


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania#Demographics


If they win elections does that mean the people who voted for them had to be Polish?.
I don't think so.


I do not understand why you keep bringing this point up?
Lithuanian "Poles" do have the same rights in Lithuania as Lithuanians, so where is the problem?.
I was mentioning that Lithuanians (especially over 35) do not particularly like Poles or Russians.
It is a social and historical thing.
If you like I can ask Lithuanians why?
but it is just going to be a load of prejudiced historical stuff.

=======================

I could show you all wonderful photos of Lithuania?.
During the Polish Lithuanian Union, Krakow and Vilnius must have shared architects and ideas about the two cities.

Travel / Krakow or Warsaw?? Which is the best to stay in for one month? [10]

Hello omnia, welcome to the Polish Forum.

I will not say anything about the other places you have mentioned as I do not know them well enough.

But I Love Krakow and surrounding areas like Zakopane. I hope you find these helpful. It is about 100 Km from Krakow to Zakopane.

Best of luck.

History / Poland and Lithuania [161]


they were two separate sentences and a quote from Princes statement.


Not true.
I would really like you to understand this one thing.

"Poles" from Lithuania want control of Vilnius.
I have seen political hostility from Lithuanian "Poles" to Lithuanians in Vilnius but not from Poles from Poland.


That is not my point.
I am only saying my observations, nothing else.
From the Polish people, here in Poland, I have spoken to, they have no idea that their are hostilities towards them in Lithuanian.
I will again make a distinction between Lithuanians, "Poles" from Lithuania and Poles from Poland.


I do not want anyone to think I give a shit, I really disliked living there and I could care less about the place, to be honest but that is not the discussion.

Although it must be pointed out that the "Poles" from Lithuania are nothing like any of the Poles I have met from here (i.e. Poland).


We can take other examples,
Ireland - England.
New Zealand - Australia
A basic one way rivalry.
Big country little country.

But the Lithuanians (over 35) have a lot of hate to go round and although I do not wish to be seen as defending them, I must admit they have had a difficult time, from my observations I would say a much worse time than Poland.

I know it is a bit silly of me to compare suffering but it is so evident there.

-----------------------------------------------------


I could be wrong but i do not think it was the Lithuanians who expelled the Polish but it was the Russians, for fear of the Poles Western Liberal ideals?.


True but Lithuanian bureaucracy does not need any more complications, trust me on that one ;)

The population of Lithuania stands at 3.3662 million, 84.6% of whom are ethnic Lithuanians who speak Lithuanian which is the official language of the country. Several sizable minorities exist, such as Poles (6.3%), Russians (5.1%), and Belarusians (1.1%).[32]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania#Demographics

Poles are the largest minority, concentrated in southeast Lithuania (the Vilnius region). Russians are the second largest minority, concentrated mostly in two cities. They constitute sizeable minorities in Vilnius (14%)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania#Demographics

History / Poland and Lithuania [161]


Yes


Yes, I just do not like the way they look down on the Lithuanians.


That is silly.


I am just stating what I have seen from "Poles" and Lithuanians in Vilnius.

Again it is ridiculous to suggest that Poles should be forbidden and you are barking up the wrong tree. I have never said anything like that.


And finally we agree, more or less, I would add that the "Polish" people in Vilnius also need to grow up.
Lithuania is a very divided country and would benefit hugely by more internal co-operation.

-----------------------------

Things are changing in Lithuania but much too slowly for me.
Attitudes of the young people in Lithuania are much better than that of thier parents, there seems to be a generation gap or two, between the young and their parents or generally anyone over 35 and under.

History / Poland and Lithuania [161]


Germans lived in Wroclaw for longer.
You say it is "their" country? Many could say the same about Poland, with forever changing borders.
The "Poles" in Lithuania are not as noble as you think. They want Vilnius to be Poland, I think Lithuanians feel threatened by this.

I think you would feel threatened also if another country had such a narrow view and wanted Warsaw.


Of course they have the right to vote and be arrogant and I would say unPolish but I am trying to get you to understand that Lithuanians do not like Poles (not my fault), they do not see you as friends as much as you think, in fact I have personally seen hatred towards Polish people there.

------------

I am happy to be back in Poland, I do not like Lithuania, it is a very very different/difficult country than here.
But I still see you are typical of Polish people and their thoughts of Lithuania. The young people do not care so much but Polish people are hated in Lithuania.

History / Poland and Lithuania [161]


I actually do not know what you mean


?
But if Russians or Germans had such power in Warsaw, I get the feeling you would not be so sympathetic?.

------------------------

Vilnius/Wilno/Vilna
Behind the name

"1920 (Oct 9)
Polish troops, led by Gen Zeligowski, "disobey" orders from Warsaw's supreme commander Pilsudski and invade city, taking it in breach of League of Nations declaration of its neutrality. Polish occupation until 1939. It is later established that Pilsudski was in on the "disobedience". "

Taken from Here
henrypavlovich.com/Vilnius-Wilno-Vilna

This is not looked upon well from the Lithuanian stand point and this bit of history is frequently thrown at Poles (Stupidly, in my opinion).


You may not but there are plenty of "Poles" who have lived there for generations who do.


Piss or get off the pot, if you know what I mean?.
I would think you would not be so accommodating if there were such a large and strong members of Russia or Germany having control of your capital?.

I will keep making this comparison of the "Poles" in Lithuania with another country in Warsaw until you recognise what I mean.


What is it about this battle in 1410?.
Do you think anyone cares?.
It was a long time ago and in fairness Lithuania has been to hell and back in the mean time.

But I do think you illustrate the common lack of consideration for the Lithuanians that is common by a lot of Poles (From Poland).

I personally think that communism had (possible still to a certain extent) divided you and many many more countries. Good chess strategy.

Have you ever been to Lithuania Prince?.

History / Poland and Lithuania [161]

I am in Vilnius now, I used to live here for a couple of years and I come here often to work.
The first time I came here was 11 years ago and much has changed in that time.


This is true believe it or not.
Most Poles are completely oblivious to this though and come here in their droves to look at the "Polishness" of the country. But the Lithuanians enjoy the money the Poles bring here.


These guys are just in it for the money, they are not really Polish and would be considered Lithuanian if they went to Poland.
Most do not speak Polish well, of at all. Everyone here considers Polish and Russian to be the same language.
If they do not understand English, I speak in Polish
"do you speak Polish?"
"Da!"
????


It was not long ago when the Polish army took Vilnius claiming it to be Polish, there was no war because they Lithuanians were greatly out numbered. Although we are all EU now ;)

Lithuanians look to Scandinavia and Germany for systems and fashion, they try to avoid their old enemies.


What makes you think that?
Polish and Russians are a big part of this country but the Lithuanians want to have their own country but they have learned to co-exist with others.


I have been talking to lots of people here about the riots and it is just hot air.
More like a snowball fight but some people did throw stones at the police and smash many windows and the police did use rubber bullets and tear gas but from all accounts from people I know who were there, it was not as bad as ot looked.

Most people were very friendly, police and protesters alike.
It was orchestrated by the political opposition as a protest and it just got out of hand later on.

-----------------------------------------

This is what I think,
Lithuania has had a very bad history, they had a much worse time during communism because they were part of the U.S.S.R.

Geographically they are screwed, between Poland and Russia, who tend to think very little about Lithuania, if anything at all.
The Poles were given a chance to leave and the educated and the rich did, the Poles that are left in this country are not all there in the head.

Typical conversation,
"Where are you from?"
"Poland"
"Ah, where in Poland?"
"Vilnius"....

People who refuse to assimilate and look down on the natives that they share this land with are no good in my book.

I know someone is going to say how great it is that they have kept their Polishness but it is not like that, they just want money and have too much power in this country.

History / Poland and Lithuania [161]

Riot in Lithuania - Vilnius 2009 01 16 riauses Vilniuje
youtube.com/v/sh2yh-_05bk

riots in Lithuania, Vilna

Life / Just cross the damn road...Is Poland strict about road crossing rules? [13]

My mate got done for jay walking in Dublin once, years ago.
But if you'd've seen him you'd probably have done the same ;)

[hr]

I find generally in north Europe people are more, serious, orderly and introverted.
(remember I am saying this in very general terms but it is something of note in my opinion).

Work / Do I need Permission for teach spanish in Poland? [12]

Hola,
You should become a member on here and use the search box on this page.
Check language schools in Krakow on the internet and apply.
Spanish is a wonderful language (my favourite).
Take care and best of luck

Life / Home In 20 Days - My thoughts on Poland... [36]

Ha ha ha ha,
The cold water still didn't sober him up ha ha ha
;0
Nice one dtaylor

Life / Home In 20 Days - My thoughts on Poland... [36]


You have to open start/accessories/paint.
Open file with the photo in it with paint and then go to image/resize and resize it to 25% and then just add as an attached file when you are writting on here.

Genealogy / How to regain contact with ex-colleague who has returned to Poland? [7]

Hello drummy,

And welcome to the Polish Forum.
Have you tried gadu-gadu.pl?, it is the Polish version of FaceBook.
Best of luck in your search.

Genealogy / Do you guys see the Polish in me in this picture? [29]


Very well put.

Genealogy / Do you guys see the Polish in me in this picture? [29]

Just out of curiosity, do you think you look Polish?.


I am sure ;)

Genealogy / Do you guys see the Polish in me in this picture? [29]

Well if you are coming back, you'd better learn the language to be able to speak to the pretty girls, 18 aren't you?.


Near Zakapane, in Białka Tatrzańska, yes it is very beautiful there, I live in-between Zakopane and krakow, two of my favourite places in Poland :)

Genealogy / Do you guys see the Polish in me in this picture? [29]

Would you be interested in learning again?
It is always a good thing to know another language and there are lots of healpful sites, like this one that can advise you on how best to go about it.

There are many people on this forum in a similar position to yourself.
I am in Poland now, I am not from here but i like it very much here even though all my muscles hurt from skiing all day :)

Genealogy / Do you guys see the Polish in me in this picture? [29]

Do you speak any Polish with your mum?

Have you been here?

Are you just curious because people ask you where your family are from?

Travel / Hello: any info about ZIELENIEC? [6]

As i said i do not know the West but I think you may be interested in the South,
[polishforums.com/recommendations_zakopane-5_30691_0.html] (Click Here) My Recommendations of Zakopane

Take a look and see what you think, it is a really beautiful place.

I will be going West to Ski later this winter season, near Wroclaw, I will probably post more then.

Either way if you do go skiing let us know how you got on.

All the best.

Travel / Hello: any info about ZIELENIEC? [6]

When you google it this should come up


Press translate this page.

I am in the south, near the Slovakian boarder.
I believe the place you are talking about is to the West? Near Czech?
I have not been West yet.

Travel / Hello: any info about ZIELENIEC? [6]

.zieleniec.pl