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PolskaDoll   
14 Sep 2007
Feedback / Translation Titles and Their Content [30]

so, maybe it is important to put "into polish" or "into english" in the title

Can't see why. The text is either going to be written in English or Polish meaning that the requested translation language has got to be the opposite.
PolskaDoll   
14 Sep 2007
Feedback / Translation Titles and Their Content [30]

If you mean, it would be assumed that something written in Polish is requested to be translated into English, then yes.
PolskaDoll   
14 Sep 2007
Feedback / Translation Titles and Their Content [30]

Where did take this information from?

My last translation thread was retitled to include the words "Please translate"

So was mine.

wouldn't think "please translate" is necessary..

Me neither - or the word Polish.

This is my point. This is a Polish forum so surely people know I want something written in English translated into Polish. Especially in the translation forum.

I'm not complaining, I just wanted to know that if posting in the translation forum in future, I need to have the words 'translate' and 'Polish' in the title. :)
PolskaDoll   
14 Sep 2007
Feedback / Translation Titles and Their Content [30]

Why is it necessary, when posting in the translation part of the forum, to include the words 'translate' or 'Polish' in the topic title?

Thanks
PD :)
PolskaDoll   
11 Sep 2007
Feedback / Why the Topic Subject MUST reflect the content of the post? [17]

tornado2007

Might seem like a moan but there is a point in it. If you were a new-comer looking to translate something like 'happy birthday my friend' and you clicked on the translation forum and were met with 27 titles all saying 'translation - please help' - would you bother searching through them all on the off chance you'd find one that would help you? I don't think you would and neither would I!
PolskaDoll   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Should Polish immigrants learn English to work in the UK? [77]

I don't think those coming here would expect us to speak their language either.

No they wouldn't.

But I would have to learn for my own happiness

Correct. To try and scrap by with minimal language skills would only add negativity to your stay.

But that is my personal choice

You'd be quite happy then, to move to Poland (for example) and not learn the language but expect to get by, expect Polish people to understand what you mean when you try and explain in bad Polish/mixed with English, what you want?
PolskaDoll   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Should Polish immigrants learn English to work in the UK? [77]

As it seems does the EU

Yes and this needs to change. All ways.

You think it's fine but imagine moving over to Poland next week with your limited command of the language. You'd be expecting everyone in Poland to communicate with you in English? Or do you think you could muddle by?
PolskaDoll   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Should Polish immigrants learn English to work in the UK? [77]

That is different - you know that to do your job you have to have a command over the language to do it properly if you live there. That is more to do with job-requirements for another country rather than entry requirements.

Somewhat.

What I also know is that to live in another country, regardless of career, I must have a command of that language.

Do you seriously think it's acceptable to begin a life in another country (a country in which you would presume to make your life and living) without having a basic grasp of the language?
PolskaDoll   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Should Polish immigrants learn English to work in the UK? [77]

it's not really a problem to that person though - is it? It won't matter if you can't understand what the person was trying to say, it would only matter to them for they won't get what they want/need. If that was the case, they would maybe be encouraged to learn. Otherwise, if they are living happily without knowing the language...?

Alright, let me bring up something I vowed I wouldn't , my profession. Lets just say I decide to go to Poland at the end of the year and work in my field of palliative care - ok. I know fine well my command of the Polish language is poor, very poor actually. But I'll go in December or January. My first week in a terminal ward and I meet a seventy-odd year old Polish lady who is suffering like hell from a disease. She's trying to tell me, in Polish, what is wrong with her and how much pain she is in...but I can't understand her (she doesn't speak English because she's never been out of Poland and this is her country). How is this acceptable that I can't understand her because I haven't bothered to learn Polish well enough?

I know many might find this extreme but it's an example. It can be swapped to someone from Poland who speaks no English coming to Britain and ending up in hospital. How can they explain how they feel?
PolskaDoll   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Should Polish immigrants learn English to work in the UK? [77]

Quoting: PolskaDoll
Imagine yourself in Poland long term, without knowing much Polish.

Who could this affect but yourself though?

i.e I don't see who, other than the people in quesiton who are not wishing to learn, it affects

Yes good late edit. Still my original answer remains. If you don't know the native language of the country you are living in then communication, even at the very basic, affects those who you wish to communicate with.
PolskaDoll   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Should Polish immigrants learn English to work in the UK? [77]

so why should a foreigner feel the need to have an interest.

don't really see the harm in this.

Well I do. There's a real harm in people who have no interest in even learning the language. Why shouldn't you learn the language if you have every intention of staying here in the long term. Imagine yourself in Poland long term, without knowing much Polish.

at least the thread title is not? Just

I reckon Admin edited the title...
PolskaDoll   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Should Polish immigrants learn English to work in the UK? [77]

Me neither. Although I did live in the States for a while!

lol

Thanks! I'm getting a headache, though.

lol, well you'd think you'd learn after the first 22 times :)

she knew two words of English - please, and thank you.

Not enough, not acceptable.

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask people who wish to make their lives in this country, to have spent one year (school year maybe) learning English on a recognised English teaching course within their country.

I know I sound against people coming to this country but I am quite the opposite, I love learning about new cultures etc but I have known too many foreigners who wish to live here but have no interest in even the language.
PolskaDoll   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Should Polish immigrants learn English to work in the UK? [77]

permanent basis then they must learn about our culture and lifestyle

Yes learn about but not conform to.

The language is the main thing and at the end of the day, if you learn the language you become bilingual which is something in itself.
PolskaDoll   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Should Polish immigrants learn English to work in the UK? [77]

I'd say a willingness to learn the language is the main thing. But of course that's tricky to measure

Well, not if they introduce compulsory tests. If you pass, fine, if you fail, try again in say - 3 months. Sounds harsh but speaking for me, I wouldn't attempt to live in another country without a good command of the language. For a start, how can not knowing the native language benefit you? What is there was some kind of emergency?

Like the new av Cubic :)
PolskaDoll   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Are British people really interested to integrate with Poles? [92]

How they integrate into Polish society is a matter for discussion elsewhere in the forum.

How about if you become involved in a Polish community within Britain?

Polonia UK might also cover how Brits react to things related with Poland... :)
PolskaDoll   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Should Polish immigrants learn English to work in the UK? [77]

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask people who want to live here to have a good command of the language but I don't think they should be required to wire into our traditions, I think that should be optional. The language is the main thing.
PolskaDoll   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Are British people really interested to integrate with Poles? [92]

Word order is the significant point here. A small group can integrate into a larger one. Not the other way round.

My point is that views from either situation would be welcome I reckon, perhaps from a British person moving into a Polish Society of from a Polish person moving into a British Society. Still the topic title would apply.
PolskaDoll   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Are British people really interested to integrate with Poles? [92]

The views will come from forum members.

Who will have views on either side.

Does that mean the thread is actually about British people living in Polish society?

Possibly, or Polish people living in British society. Seems quite open to me.