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Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

That answer is an automatic loser. Once again, attacking innocent villages and murdering defenseless families cannot be morally, let alone logically explained.

Well...if you think an army can conquer nearly the whole of Europe only with killing unarmed civilians...well...you should take your brain to a doctor!

I don't care what you think..you are an idiot!

Who the hell is forcing you to drink beer and play soccer in the desert, nerd??

Better than killing wedding parties?
Well everybody does what he likes best, isn't it...

Apropos Suvorov:

....Suvorov's most controversial assertion was that Stalin originally planned to use Nazi Germany as a proxy (the “Icebreaker”) against the West. For this reason Stalin provided significant material and political support to Adolf Hitler, while at the same time preparing the Red Army to “liberate” the whole of Europe from Nazi occupation. Suvorov argued that Hitler lost World War II from the moment he attacked Poland: not only was he going to war with the Allies, but it was only a matter of time before the Soviet Union would take the most appropriate moment to attack him from the rear. This left Hitler with no choice but to launch a preemptive strike on the Soviet Union,...

A pre-emptive war anybody?
Maybe Hitler wasn't that stupid...
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

No he's not and modern Germans have the audacity to equate us with the Nazi regime. There would be no modern Germany without the altruism of the US. Why don't you google the online English versions of Speigel or Die Welt sometime and read what they think of us? I'm not proud of Iraq one bit but does equate with shoving little kids into ovens? It's standard European foolishness that we should divorce ourselves of. Once they have the economic power they'll do it again, just like twice before. They are basiclly automatons anyway.. all for the glory of Deutchland. You can see the weird devotion in their eyes.

puleeeeze! Any links to such comparisons?

Oh and we HAVE the economic power again...already for awhile now! Oops...nothing happened...

Wait...there were some adventures we were forced to take part in even kicking and screaming against...do you mean that?
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

Really" The war had to be fought? German logic?

Logic of the war...of any war!

I'm afraid that your attempts at rationalization of Nazism has jaded you.

What crap!

"Obedience" is a well known German trait. You seem proud of it.

...and you seem obsessed by it!
Don't you have another stereotypes to indulge in?

he will find out sooner or later that Americans are not his enemies.

God..free...I KNOW that already!!! :)

It is the downtalk of the german army, of the german soldier, by the likes of scrappy I won't let stand unanswered!
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

At least we're allowed to have nukes

Well, as you still are the only country to ever use them against women and children I'm sure you know how to use them should you feel scared again...

None of us should be proud of any of it.

Well...I didn't start this p*issing contest...:)

Maybe scrappy played to much WWII games again!
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

Yes, invading innocent villages, machine gunning down families etc is something to be proud of.

Yeah sure...if they had done that all the time they wouldn't had gone out of Poland...there was a war to be fought...you do that best when you fight the enemy army.

Idiot!

Does that come from the same source where your "obedience" wisdom came from? You should look for better sources!

Terror bombing and nuking whole towns were such peaceful feats compared to that, didn't they...you didn't even saw the people you killed!

None of your goddamn business. You slimy bastard.

13? 14???

No more video games for you!
There you win always I'm sure....but abit estranged from the reality! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

Well...Nazism was shite!
But I don't blame the people who voted for Hitler (as I'm not sure I wouldn't had fallen into the same trap) nor do I blame the soldiers who did their best fighting against all odds.

And yes, I am proud of brave feats....that the brave men fought for a ****** thing didn't made the deeds any less brave...that's life and war!
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

You gave us fair warning.. Well it got Dresden melted didn't it? It meant you had to live with Communism 45 years. Hope your stupid fireworks were worth it.

Tja...I doubt the citizens of Dresden were graced with a fair warning...neither were the women and children of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Man, what proud warrior you are! Be proud!

Didn't need Stalin at Normandy,

Oh yes you did!
Would have like to see you run when you had to face our best troops (161 Divisions) which were tied down in the East instead of old sick men and kids...

But then, using your mighty airforce pounding them into pulp before going forward one step and your material superiority you did it here in the end too...congratulations...my what proud warriors you are!

Stalin needed us

Gah!

GB needed us

Don't they always?

Yeah we used nukes so our boys wouldn't be tortured.

Your army used nukes against civilians to spare their soldiers the fighting...a thing the Nazis were blamed for...interesting, isn' it!
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

Don't sink the Lusitania with women and kids aboard.

What! Still treading the old propaganda line?

It is now known that the Lusitania was carrying munitions onboard

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania#Last_voyage_and_sinking

Included in the Lusitania's cargo were 4,200,000 rounds of Remington 0.303 rifle cartridges, 1250 cases of empty 3 inches (76 mm) fragmentation shell cases, and eighteen cases of non-explosive fuses,[52

Only a passenger ship, right? On the way to GB just accidentally, ja?

A dive team from Cork Sub Aqua Club, diving under license, discovered 15,000 rounds of the .303 (7.7×56mmR) caliber rifle ammunition transported on the Lusitania in boxes in the bow section of the ship. The find was photographed but left in situ under the terms of the license.[62] In December 2008, Gregg Bemis discovered a further four million rounds of .303 ammunition and announced plans to commission further dives in 2009 for a full-scale forensic examination of the wreck.[63]

The German Embassy in Washington had issued this warning on 22nd April.[18]

NOTICE!
TRAVELLERS intending to embark on the Atlantic voyage are reminded that a state of war exists between Germany and her allies and Great Britain and her allies; that the zone of war includes the waters adjacent to the British Isles; that, in accordance with formal notice given by the Imperial German Government, vessels flying the flag of Great Britain, or any of her allies, are liable to destruction in those waters and that travellers sailing in the war zone on the ships of Great Britain or her allies do so at their own risk.
IMPERIAL GERMAN EMBASSY,
Washington, D.C. 22nd April 1915

You've got to be kidding!
Did you know that at the same time the Brits and the French had installed a blockade which would be the reason for 600.000 civilian deaths even after the war was over??? That was mass murder!

British propaganda

It was in the interests of the British to keep US passions inflamed, and a fabricated story was circulated that in some regions of Germany, schoolchildren were given a holiday to celebrate the sinking of the Lusitania. This story was so effective that James W. Gerard, the US ambassador to Germany, recounted it in his memoir of his time in Germany, Face to Face with Kaiserism (1918), though without substantiating its validity.[39]

The sinking turned public opinion in many countries against Germany, and was instrumental in bringing the United States into the war.[4]

What an accident!

Gregg Bemis, as well as other people on the team, believe the British Royal Navy deliberately bombed the Lusitania site to "make the wreck as unattractive as possible, to prevent further salvage" and to "prevent divers from going in and finding that there was contraband cargo".

You should better take another look at your "special relationship"!

Still do, for that matter!!

Then why don't you?

How smart was it to invade Poland, bring in GB .. and then the icing on the f.ucking cake.. actually DECLARE WAR on the world's largest economy. You declared war on us not the other way around.

Hitler was a fool but he did what he thought was honor demanded...to show support for the ally Japan...but then he invaded Russia too...breaking a treaty....I dunno what was going on in his brain...sorry!

You always have such pride but in the end you f.uck it up like always.

Always??? What do you mean with always...
Quite to the contrary..we are mostly successful in what we do...to successful for some!

YOU brought us into it.

Crap!
The Lusitania shipped ammunition to Great Britain...already breaching the rules of neutrality...the Germans even gave you a fair warning...you WANTED this reason to get into the brawl...nobody forced you to!

The Brits played you like a fiddle...and laughed at you behind your back at how good and nice they could manipulate you!

Uhhh.. 2 huge wars , 2 huge losses???

Against what? Against what odds?
YOU, the mighty big USofA NEEDED the hordes of F*UCKING STALIN AND TWO NUKES!!!!

make your money, brew your little beer.. and stay the f.ck home.

We want nothing else..and we are good at it! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

I'm an East German Scrappleton...I owe you exactly NOTHING!

Only utter idiots would follow some buffoon like Hitler and due his ridiculous bidding.

Without you doing the bidding of the Brits without taking another look and letting them abuse you there wouldn't had been a Hitler.
Think about that when you next time mourn your dead.
Germans were desperate after the Treaty...a Treaty YOU helped to concive...a Treaty which even made a mad man like Hitler look good for many Germans, THANK YOU MAN!

Your infantry sucked in close hand to hand combat.. that was well documented.

Oh puleeeeze...ROFL
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

Crap!

Great Britain lost it's "Greatness", becoming just the small island they naturally are.
The same with France losing all their colonies...now needing some photo ops to say cheese to look good.
We don't need another Führer...we have what we want! The Euro is in essence the Deutsche Mark, the EU is our backyard to sell our products too..we RULE!

You still don't get it, don't you!

PS: The marshall plan was nice (for WEST Germany) but it needed more than that to rebuild Germany...it needed Germans for that!
After all GB and also France got much more support money from you but didn't do half as much with it....no "Wirtschaftswunder" for them!

But admitted, it was a good thing....another punishment action like the Treaty of Versailles and we would probably fight each other again instead of screaming at each other over an internet board :)
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

Yep, and profit we did. America grew into a great nation after the war.

!

How about another war to get you back on your feet?
Wait...Iraq didn't went that well, didn't it....I mean AFTER your airforce flattened the houses and the infrastructure from far above...as the "real" fighting started I mean..

Just a little food for thought (if you have any brain capacity left):
WWI was a war about the dominance in Europe between the old dogs and their empires (GB, France) and the new kid on the block (Germany)...WWII was the perverse sequel of the unfinished business of WWI (thanks to the meddling of the US)

But now look who dominates Europe! Who did win in the end!
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

We learned from the best FRITZ, You guys did a good job on civilians in Auschwitz. Treblinka, and Sobi Bor.

Oh puleeeze...as if you had given a **** about the Jews. You were scared about the Nazis..they might had come over and hid under your bed. YOU SH*IT YOUR PANTS!

You nuked the Japs women and children even as they hadn't gassed any Jews...all apologies....you were cowards who were the only one to profit and to get fat from that war! Congratulations!

What will you do should you once have NOT the absolute material superiority? Losers!
Oh wait...didn't you bake the whole of Vietnam with more bombs than the whole of Germany? And those sandal wearer just laughed about you in the end...what losers! You are fantastic in killing civilians from far above in the sky, credit where credit is due...my what winners you are!
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

AGAIN 1917 & 1939. They are losers that will never learn

Well...you all needed to hold hands with your buddies to beat little plucky Germany...what an achievement! Not to mention a much needed alliance with that other monster Stalin!

Oh and when the US hadn't had babysat Britain and France in the first war Germany would had won and there wouldn't had been a second war, no Hitler, no holocaust, nothing....but some never learn do they!

And what chutzpah...getting kicked by some third world asians in 1975 but calling Germany who fighted the whole world for 6 years losers...look in the mirror you weakling.

You can throw nukes at civilians to "save" your soldiers and win the war...my what brave and heroic you are!!!

And without the scientific thefts out of Germany after the war you wouldn't be nowhwere were you are now!
Germany again is the top dog in Europe...the world is laughing at you right now..and that after two lost wars..who is the loser here!
Bratwurst Boy   
31 May 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

NO BLOGS.

Germans were forbidden to have photo apparate or similiar...no papers, no radio...why do you think that was so?

Axis history is no "blog"....authors research here!
*pouts*

But you will agree with me that the same authorities who had all the power (and the ONLY power at that) to research allied war crimes were not especially interested in doing it in post-war Germany, don't you!

Wiki has this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II

...at Chegnogne that on New Year's Day 1945 some 60 German POWs were shot in cold blood by their American guards.
The guilty went unpunished. It was felt that the basis for their action was orders that no prisoners were to be taken"

Interesting, isn't it....they followed orders...
Bratwurst Boy   
31 May 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

But I want you to show me proof that it happened.

Erm....as in Photos???

And who do you think ordered them to fire?

Not Peiper, that's the problem!
He wasn't at the crossing anymore.
During the trial he offered to take over the responsibility for all his soldiers...as a proper officer should do!

The only case that I know of is when Sepp Deitrich ordered American speaking paratroopers to from behind American lines to cause havoc. They were caught an executed by a firing squad as spies, according to the Geneva rules

You mean operation Greif? That was Skorzeny....
And I wouldn't call that war crimes as the allies also had their hidden agents behind german lines and also the germans knew that they couldn't hope for mercy should they get caught...nobody forced them to!
Bratwurst Boy   
31 May 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

and opened up with a machine gun

And who do you think manned these gun?
The fresh troops Peiper got for this operation were very young boys as Germany scraped the barrel of manpower at this time already!
The SS especially had set down the entry age to 16 to get the "best" from the young before the Wehrmacht...there you have your "mad" SS!

And no...I wouldn't call that brave...but then...I wouldn't call the American shooting german POWS as brave either!

forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=148435

The 21 men shot were actuallly elderly police reservists and firemen housed in the cellar of a Spitze inn.

I don't remember any trial....do you?
An isolated case? For sure not...it was war and **** happened and nobody was interested in allied crimes!

But sometimes they were:

...
Many massacres of prisoners of war were committed by the American 45th (Thunderbird) Division during the invasion of Sicily in 1943. At Comise airfield, a truck load of German prisoners were machine-gunned as they climbed down on to the tarmac, prior to be air-lifted out. Later the same day, 60 Italian prisoners were cut down the same way. On July 14, thirty six prisoners were gunned down near Gela by their guard, US Sergeant Barry West. At Buttera airfield, US Captain Jerry Compton, lined up his 43 prisoners against a wall and machine-gunned them to death. West and Compton were both arrested and convicted of murder. They were sent to the front where both were later killed in action....

Bratwurst Boy   
31 May 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

But show me one case where this happened.

You are kidding, right?
They weren't likely any survivors and if there was one was soon more busy to stay alive in some POW cage...ever heard of "the victor writes history"????

**** happened, Malmedy's happened....someone pulled the trigger...most likely some 16 year old who had already seen to much...

Did you know about the Canadiens in Normandy against the SS Hitler Jugend?
The Canadiens wanted revenge for Dieppe and didn't take german prisoners for the first days. The HJ retaliated...both didn't show the other any mercy..but guess who get's all the blame after the war???

No photographers, no researchers, no trials for allied war crimes...that doesn't mean they didn't happen!

PS: Did you know that the black uniform of the Panzer troops was for awhile a death sentence???
The americans thought there were all SS soldiers...because of the black, even as they were mostly "only" Wehrmacht...they just killed them because of their uniform even as they had surrendered!
Bratwurst Boy   
31 May 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

Well....in the end most got free and he too after 10 years in prison.
Do you think they had let them go after the trial if he had been really guilty?
They hanged war criminals for less!
He wasn't even near as the massacre happened.

And don't you think americans killed surrendered german soldiers too?
Where are the trials for them?

....okay...I'm a bit biased concerning Peiper....I own both huge bios about him.....

A Times article from '49:

time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,780092,00.html
Bratwurst Boy   
31 May 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

Well I could ask you the same question.

It was a rhetorical question....if there was a grande strategy it was about even more conquest...nothing something would had ever had a chance of success in the end.

It was in the nature of the third Reich...but hindsight is everything.

For sure not Germans ... as long as they were fighting against alone small Poland ... France ... or Great Britan ... they had successes but later ...

ROFL...yes as long as they conquered the whole of Europe they were successfull! :)
It needed the alliance of the huge manpower of Russia plus the huge advantage in material by the US to beat Germany...congratulations!
Scrap it Luki, you can't downtalk the german forces!:):):)
I wonder why you still try? It makes Polands surrender after 4 weeks not look better....
(Even as they had better equipment and were more brave as you say)

Very resonable leadership...

If you say so....
Bratwurst Boy   
31 May 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

Maybe somebody should have told these officers that. The German soldier fought in fear of retaliation from above. They were not the heroes that you make them out to be.

No, he didn't (not generally anyways). They weren't brainless automatons as you make them out to be. /Infantry-Aces-Soldier-Stackpole-Military/
Bratwurst Boy   
31 May 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

The overall strategy was...what exactly???
Our army did the best and even overperformed often enough with what she had or better not had as she was overstretched, undermanned and without free, unlimited access to important, vital resources!

This world war was unwinnable but the third Reich wouldn't had been viable in peace times...so war to the bad end it was...only most people didn't know!

It was insane!

Well said. Violence only breeds more violence and in Europe

Agreed!
Bratwurst Boy   
31 May 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

Now lets go back to reality and how majority of German soldiers looked like:

As compared to?

ww2incolor.com/poland/DZWI-KZ_110_1%23.html%5D%5Bimg%5D

Of the 322 German Army and SS divisions extant in November 1943, only 52 were armored or motorized.

Yeah...to all who say the superiority of the german forces were because of their being motorized or better equipped...nooo...we just had the better soldiers and the better tactics...in short we were the better army even faced with better equipment or a numerous superior enemy we won!

(for awhile that is...)