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ShelleyS   
5 Feb 2009
UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]

? It is fashionable to be Irish in London these days.

Ive never lived in London, but it's never been a problem in Manchester, which is a large city.

I am pointing out that you are just repeating history and you are a hypocrite.

England and Ireland had a bit of a long history, which bit are you referring to?

So ShellyS, is your governments immigration policy Johnny Foreigner's fault?
Is the recession, Johnny Foreigner's fault?.

The recession is because of the glabal markets collapse, but the numbers of people in the UK versu the number of jobs in the UK, is a problem, decreasing salaries because of cheap labour and rising cost of living is a problem for the indiginous population.

What are you talking about?.

Jystina, she is a prime example of a person who changes her views like the wind.

I read your reply the first time.

I know, I was merely correcting you *again* *sign*
ShelleyS   
5 Feb 2009
UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]

Is there a personal reason behind your hatred, I still wonder?.

Sean, one does not just wake up and decide these things, it's more a gradual thing, but it's hardly something Im going to discuss with someone who's still whining on about fictional problems that are none-existent for Irish people in the UK.

As for my life :) It's not bad, of course somethings could always be better, but in general Im quite happy.

As for me "going through the motions" Im just consistent :) Unlike some on this forum that spout shite and then do a great big turn around!

P.S. I say fogged off.

Fobbed off!
ShelleyS   
5 Feb 2009
UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]

The racist hatred you personally spew on this forum is not to be ignored or fogged off.

Poor Sean, the English gave him a bad time boo hoo! btw it's fobbed off not fogged off :)

As for Pakistanis, they have not assimilated into British life, their lives could not be more different they do not respect England and would love nothing more than to creat an Islamic state - they are pushing for Sharia law and pushing for Muslim faith schools, they are far from intigrated, very far and one doesn't have to be a racist to see this happening.

Well, to be fair there certainly is no shortage of racist, chavish English folk. And I have sympathy for early Pakistani immigrants who were exposed to awful racism and were horrified at the dysfunctional lifestyles of many lower class English (with good reason).

So you know a lot about what happened in the 1960s in the UK? I think you will find there was less racial tension back then, in comparison to now. There is also no shortage of middle class and rather upper class racism, my friends cousins went to public school and see nothing wrong with referring to black people as "nig nogs". Don't be fooled that racism is a lower class issue in the UK.

Unfortunately the overall reaction (with many welcome exceptions) was to withdraw into tradition and extreme religious conservativism and to reject basic aspects of traditional British ideas of civil society (a reaction that has also become dysfunctional).

They had no intension of integrating into a British way of life, after 4 generations they are still wearing traditional asian dress (or at least the women do, it seems there is a different rule for the men)

On the one hand, the melting pot model of immigration is dead (due to the nature of modern travel and media). On the other hand, no one has established a good working model to take its place. Multi-culturalism is a disaster as it decreases the level of societal trust (a necessary ingredient of a successful first world country).

It was a big lie, created by those who love multi-culturalism, to make everyone believe that europeans should open their arms and accept anything that is dropped on them.

A considerable amount of them do not speak English, do not think that language will be a problem, the 2nd generation born in Poland will learn Polish, as for the benefits, let us not forget where these people come from, that's not a problem either, something is better than nothing.
ShelleyS   
5 Feb 2009
UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]

SeanBM

Sean, you must have had a bad time of it here, not all Irish did, my friends father came here from Belfast in the early 70s, him and his wife are happily retired (early I may add) on the profits of the company he set up and worked hard to build up over the last 30 years, I don't actually have one friend that doesn't have Irish family over here and as far as I am aware none of them have ever been subject to abuse because of their nationality. I think your being very cute about all this, playing the Irish victim card, look at the Irish papers or talk to Irish friends, they've had enough too, my friends girlfriend is from Belfast, her family are sick of foreigners!

Nonetheless, do you think current immigration policy in the UK is well-formed?

No, it is a farce and rules are not enforced.

Do you think there isn't enough immigration to the UK? (If not, how many hundreds of millions of people do you think Great Britain could support?)

We do have enough and we don't have the resources to accommodate more.

Do you think the UK government is really acting in the best interests of either the citizenry _or_ immigrants?

They don't care about either.

Do you think current immigrant groups are assimilating at reasonable rates?

No, even (and I hate to say this) Polish people seem to have formed ghettos, their own shops, nights in bars, clubs etc, most of them do not speak an acceptable level of English, but having said that, they seem to just get on with it, England is just a stop gap and a place to earn money, nothing more, but most importantly the vast majority work and are law abiding.

Or alternately do you think a society made up of dozens of different ethnic groups with no common language or cultural assumptions about the role of the citizen and government can function?

The problem with this is the only people that lose their culture are the native English people as the immigrants have very little respect or willingness to learn and the more that come the more the English get pushed out, you see, flying the flag of my country is deemed either chavy or racist.

Don't worry though, Poland will be exactly the same in about 10 years time, if not sooner, they seem to be more mobile these days, day and age of cheap flights.
ShelleyS   
5 Feb 2009
UK, Ireland / Rise in race crimes linked to attacks on Poles [50]

The victim did seem to be mixing with a bit of a rough crowd,

His friend, like quite a few of men in this day and age, visited a prostitute, even the most respectable of men do this! It certainly didn't mean he was mixing with rough types and even if he was, that doesn't make it okay for some animal with 140 convictions to stab him in the eye or anywhere else for that matter!
ShelleyS   
5 Feb 2009
UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]

Still, John Reed made the case for refusing access to Bulgarians and Romanians. Surely that is a positive step

Thats going to change - they are "thinking" of lifting the restrictions, and to be quite honest it was a bit of a farce, since they could enter as "self-employed" once again affecting skilled tradesmen - undercutting and undercutting has become way of life - 6 foreigners living together can afford this, an English man with a wife, 2 kids, mortgage and the rest of the outgoings, simply cannot!
ShelleyS   
30 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]

You say that, but I doubt it. Everyone wants the more cost effective option. Given the choice between two products of equal quality, you would take the cheaper one all day. It's a no brainer.

I already buy Fair Trade products, which are more expensive so please don't call me liar. Some of us, would rather pay a little bit more, maybe my mentality is slightly different to yours, seeing the bigger picture often makes it a bit clearer.

It's a free market I'm afraid. Why should the British be so scared of economic mobility?

Not at all, but how is we only have a "free market" in the UK? It would seem everyone has the opportunity here, yet do you honestly think that these opportunties are on offer in the countries these people come from? Don't you grasp the fact that we are a tiny Island? There are only so many jobs, why do think the NHS changed it's Policy for emplying doctors from overseas (outside of the EU).
ShelleyS   
30 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]

Then again, if the customer weren't willing to buy products manufactured in China, if they were willing to pay a little bit more and buy something made in Britain, the jobs would stay here. But people want cheap iPods, cars and mobiles so the firms flick their home country a v and drum up cheap foreign labour.

And herein lies the problem - :( But do we have a choice? Given the choice and I am being truthful, I would pay a little bit more for something made in this country - if you take in to consideration, the import costs ect., the costs probably wouldn't be too different.
ShelleyS   
30 Jan 2009
Love / I need advice - I just found out my Polish boyfriend in Ireland has a wife and children. [40]

That's the kind of thing you do when you are away from home.

Not it's not, it's the kind of thing low lifes do.

They guy is obvious a cheating bastard. Firstly he has been cheating on you on his wife and kids. Secondly it took him a year to tell you. These are not good character traits. What he is doing to her he could easily do to you in the future. Run away fast

Seconded!

Dump him. Shag him a few times and them dump him.

Definately not, fuck him off! is the only fuck he'd get from this corner!

yes maybe i will do that??? Any nice single polish boys in Ireland out there????

Glutten for punishment?
ShelleyS   
30 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]

Things will hopefully get better soon, but the current situation is an unavoidable fact of economic life. British workers just have to get on with it.

Hopefully. As for British workers, they have always got on with it Mr B, but the more of industry that is destroyed or exported the less chances there are for the British worker.
ShelleyS   
30 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]

Then again, thee's nothing stopping qualified Brits getting a job in another country.

Not everyone wants upsticks and move to another country - not everyone wants to be away from their family for months on end. You make is sound so easy and clear cut. We should be thinking about building a country, not destroying it.

No, times are hard at the moment and British workers will have to swallow their pride and accept reduced pay and worse conditions.

I studied the British Industrial Revolution to a high level and those words you spoke, means sending us back centuries....we are suppose to progress, not regress.

I understand your points Bubbles, but at a time when prices are rising and salaries are decreasing for the average working class person, not many people can actually cut the costs any further. Believe it or not, many more people are already living on the bread line - people go to work to simply pay bills and eat - but at least they have their dignity in tact by doing so, squeeze these people any further and you in the end make it impossible for them to continue to do this and some times taking benefits is the only option, as unbelievable as that sounds.
ShelleyS   
30 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]

TOTAL have sold a power station to an Italian company who have imported most of their workers from outside the UK.

Disgusting! Not only do we export jobs to India, import more than we export now companies we have sold off to foreign companies that remain in the UK are importing foreign employees - who the fcuking hell are the British supposed to work for????????????????????????? People have every right to get angry about this! Either we stop selling off and exporting jobs or there will be a very big explosion in this country of riots!
ShelleyS   
30 Jan 2009
Travel / Where to go in Poland that has good nighlife but not "touristy"? [10]

Try Wraclaw, I'm English, saying that I enjoyed Krakow, it's not as bad as some might have you think, I went in several bars where there were no English to be seen or heard - they mostly congregate around the main square, Krakow has much more to offer in a way of things to see, beautiful buildings, castle, sights to go and see near by - excellent restaurants and some lovely little back / side street bars and coffee shops.

Wraclaw is a nice city, with less Brits.
ShelleyS   
29 Jan 2009
Travel / An experience on the train in Warsaw [30]

Read my post you tit I countered Delphian's argument and wrote how a person would not be treated in the UK the way you were treated in Poland!!

I also said that Polish ID would be accepted in the UK!

As for the Tufty Club - that was a joke you failed to get!

As for negative, I dont think you know me well enough to make such a comment newbie!

Oh and don't call me a bitch again or I'll start to call you names you may not like!
ShelleyS   
29 Jan 2009
Travel / An experience on the train in Warsaw [30]

Welcome to the land of handsome dogs and evil ticket controllers.

ROFL (Im getting concerned about the excellence of your command of English doggy)

Oh come on, haven't you ever dealt with some of the knuckleheads that work in the UK system?

Come on Delphian, I have never in my life heard of anything like this in the UK, yes there are plenty of "jobsworths" out there, but you would NEVER find a public transport employee trying to extort money from a member of the public!

oh, so this situation is similar, when *some* brits don't want to accept polish passport /not to mention a polish ID cards- dowód osobisty/ - "becouse it can be a fake"

Rubbish, I have friends that use their Polish ID for opening bank accounts, so you are talking bollox!

I have a school teachers photo ID

Ive still got my Tufty Club membership card, do you think they'd accept that? ;0)
ShelleyS   
29 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / Rise in race crimes linked to attacks on Poles [50]

no surprise there.it is always better to blame white poles for the crisis than other,dark skinned immigrants(this could make you a racist!) or yourself.very typical for this region of europe.

It's alright they hate the English too :)

[dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1114567/Scars-girl-beaten-English-Scotland.html] - Bloody Scots :)

PS: Good to see you back here on PF. :)

Seconded :)
ShelleyS   
29 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / 800K of Polish immigrants in UK don't pay taxes -what do the poles think [190]

Then you can not slag them off, because they will be British, just like you.

How do you work that out? Why do people automatically assume becaus someone has citizenship, it makes them "British" If someone gets Polish citizenship, does that make them Polish?
ShelleyS   
28 Jan 2009
Life / How do Poles feel about non whites/non Slavs living in Poland? [150]

OK... unless they are scum or there are too many of them.

But how many is too many and what do you do when there are too many? Do you think that countries like the UK and German who now have too many thought that they would ever have the problems they have now? I think I'll come and visit Poland in 20 years time and let us see!

Sheep, stop licking my undertail, I will guard you anyway.

Nasty dog! Or were you secretly wishing he was doing it (I can't actually bring myself to write it!)
ShelleyS   
23 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / UK In Recession - It's Official [26]

- Oh, I would invite you for a nice cup of tea but you know, it's recession. Bye.

Tea is fine, as long as you know that the economy tea bag has been used several times and there is no chance of a biscuit! ;0) Oh and don't take your coat off because they wont have the heating on!

Actually it's quite serious considering over 2 million people are out of work, I've got 2 friends that have lot their jobs, one is a solicitor and the other is a financial advisor - not good.

I'm interesting to know what the media in Poland are saying about the financial crisis?
ShelleyS   
23 Jan 2009
Travel / Possible wrong name when ordering tickets to PL, will there be a problem? [6]

If the name on your confirmation (the one you print off - i.e. booking confirmation) is correct and it corresponds with the spelling on your passport, then you are fine. If they do not match, contact wizzair by phone and ask them to change it - they shouldn't charge for this as it is not an "official" name change, just a simple modification. It is not worth turning up at the airport only to be turned away. That's what I would do anyway.
ShelleyS   
23 Jan 2009
Life / Applying for EU passport... [51]

Does that mean when I marry her, I can apply for the EU passport and work in London?

But If you are married with EU citizens then there shouldn't be any serious problems with work and most of stuff except things like voting etc.

Not quite Grzegorz, just because his wife is Polish, the fact still remains he is Canadian and not a member of the EU - he would still need a spousal visa to come to the UK (that's when he gets married of course and his wife would need to show she could support him and he would not have access to any benefits or our health service), there is a new points based system in the UK now so things are not as cut and dry as they used to be, take in to consideration there are over 2 million unemployed in the UK, he has basically fuck all chance of getting sponsorship from a company and spousal visas are not always granted.

I hate the be the bearer of bad news, but that's the way it is, he could always black his face, turn up ask for policial asylum, then they would give him a house, benefits and sky tv!
ShelleyS   
22 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / ARE BRITS MEANER AND LESS HOSPITABLE THAN POLES? [79]

Personally, I don't understand why anyone would want to queue up at a crowded bar numerous times during a night out, when they could just do it once or twice!

Maybe its because Poles like queuing? Contrary to popular belief.