Frank
5 Nov 2006
Feedback / National Admin appreciation day! [18]
no its only 6.12 here........and not too warm....lol
no its only 6.12 here........and not too warm....lol
Frank
5 Nov 2006
Life / Are Polish People Racist? [1037]
Curiously, in todays Sunday Times..they report on who actually was responsible for winning the war.....guess what ...after the British and Americans convincing themselves/us it was almost wholly down to them....it was of course...........
THE RUSSIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fatalities against the German armies .....80% killed by the Russians...the 20% USA/UK...mostly..........so 4:1...ratio.....
On the Eastern front 150 German division held by the Russians...on western front... a mere 56!!
In percentage terms in W Europe...UK contribution was a piffling 5-6% of the grand total!
Not for one moment would I understate the contribution at Europes darkest moment made by the UK ....but the real winners/victors were the Russians....!
Mr Churchill wasn't in any position to dictate to the almighty Russians, who should be fully liberated or not.....he had ro real say at all........
PS Before the war their agreement allowed them both to annex/take over those countries deemed to be in their respective spheres of influence...Germany invaded 8 countries and the "liberators"..Russia...invaded and occupied 5..all before 1939!
Curiously, in todays Sunday Times..they report on who actually was responsible for winning the war.....guess what ...after the British and Americans convincing themselves/us it was almost wholly down to them....it was of course...........
THE RUSSIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fatalities against the German armies .....80% killed by the Russians...the 20% USA/UK...mostly..........so 4:1...ratio.....
On the Eastern front 150 German division held by the Russians...on western front... a mere 56!!
In percentage terms in W Europe...UK contribution was a piffling 5-6% of the grand total!
Not for one moment would I understate the contribution at Europes darkest moment made by the UK ....but the real winners/victors were the Russians....!
Mr Churchill wasn't in any position to dictate to the almighty Russians, who should be fully liberated or not.....he had ro real say at all........
PS Before the war their agreement allowed them both to annex/take over those countries deemed to be in their respective spheres of influence...Germany invaded 8 countries and the "liberators"..Russia...invaded and occupied 5..all before 1939!
Frank
5 Nov 2006
Life / Are Polish People Racist? [1037]
Guys, if you checked my ID, I am not British, my country has also been victim of its occupation etc, but quoting selected history books to me is not sufficient....I admit I am not an expert, but you got to look at your nearest and dearest neighbours...they agreed on the carve up...they did the slaughtering...they did the occupying........so you think 2 million British soldiers were going to defeat 10 million Russians....no.......so...even if they really...really wanted too....all that would have happened an even longer war...more dead...and still no freedom......
I am not fully condoning the "sell out"....many awful decisions were made and disgraceful decisions made...of course I understand how you feel....but if you were given the choice..."By the way I am going to kill one member of your family.....either your mother or your sister.....and youHAVE to decide....OR both die...which would it be?....
Called a dilemna............not nice....but you gotta choose.....:(
I have nothing against the Polish nation or people....IF it was so bad in GB and Ireland...then Polish immigrants would be home after 1 month...but not the case..they make sacrifices/allowances etc..and stay to make money/new home...thats the litmus paper test...not the few cretins who post rubbish reports on here...and you react to them....IGNORE the Sh!te posts ola/marek...ok?...ok....say you will......??!!...:)
All you got ta do is rise above...concentrate on the postive.....etc.........
Guys, if you checked my ID, I am not British, my country has also been victim of its occupation etc, but quoting selected history books to me is not sufficient....I admit I am not an expert, but you got to look at your nearest and dearest neighbours...they agreed on the carve up...they did the slaughtering...they did the occupying........so you think 2 million British soldiers were going to defeat 10 million Russians....no.......so...even if they really...really wanted too....all that would have happened an even longer war...more dead...and still no freedom......
I am not fully condoning the "sell out"....many awful decisions were made and disgraceful decisions made...of course I understand how you feel....but if you were given the choice..."By the way I am going to kill one member of your family.....either your mother or your sister.....and youHAVE to decide....OR both die...which would it be?....
Called a dilemna............not nice....but you gotta choose.....:(
I have nothing against the Polish nation or people....IF it was so bad in GB and Ireland...then Polish immigrants would be home after 1 month...but not the case..they make sacrifices/allowances etc..and stay to make money/new home...thats the litmus paper test...not the few cretins who post rubbish reports on here...and you react to them....IGNORE the Sh!te posts ola/marek...ok?...ok....say you will......??!!...:)
All you got ta do is rise above...concentrate on the postive.....etc.........
Frank
5 Nov 2006
Life / Are Polish People Racist? [1037]
Nope....Russians.....had occupied Poland...not the UK/USA yes....?......I think you'll find possession is 9/10s of the law...........
The Russians were quite happy to "waste" the lives of their own people to defend their gains....but not waste any on the indigenous population.....I believe...it was the worse of two evils...another war...against a hugely powerful nation...for no gain....or put up and shut up.............so the original blame still lies at the door of Germany/Russia, of their day....the Evil Empire............Britains power was on the wane...( I am not a historian..perhaps others are and are better read no doubt than both of us) .
WWII effectively bankrupted the UK...in no postion to continually waste the rest of its wealth against an occupier who didn't care.....what was another 2 million dead to them...if they could dominate the whole of East Europe....?
The outcome wasn't ideal......but then the outcomes of wars rarely are...........feel free to go rant on a German/Russian board about the greatness of their nations......
The British/French at least attempted to honour their alliance at the start of the war....but weren't up to it...nor was ANY other nation in Europe ( even the great bear that is Russia)........most unfortunate....point your finger elsewhere........the fact that you are not still speaking Russian full time and might never be free is down to the few million Brits who rode their luck in 1940.......and then the USA came to the old worlds rescue 2 years later.......we all wished it never happen...Polands pain and that of the Jews was the most terrible of all.....it was a very sad time...for the entire world.........
I think its fab we are now free, to a degree, to chat about it now............cherish that freedom...make the most of it....
Long live free Polska!
Nope....Russians.....had occupied Poland...not the UK/USA yes....?......I think you'll find possession is 9/10s of the law...........
The Russians were quite happy to "waste" the lives of their own people to defend their gains....but not waste any on the indigenous population.....I believe...it was the worse of two evils...another war...against a hugely powerful nation...for no gain....or put up and shut up.............so the original blame still lies at the door of Germany/Russia, of their day....the Evil Empire............Britains power was on the wane...( I am not a historian..perhaps others are and are better read no doubt than both of us) .
WWII effectively bankrupted the UK...in no postion to continually waste the rest of its wealth against an occupier who didn't care.....what was another 2 million dead to them...if they could dominate the whole of East Europe....?
The outcome wasn't ideal......but then the outcomes of wars rarely are...........feel free to go rant on a German/Russian board about the greatness of their nations......
The British/French at least attempted to honour their alliance at the start of the war....but weren't up to it...nor was ANY other nation in Europe ( even the great bear that is Russia)........most unfortunate....point your finger elsewhere........the fact that you are not still speaking Russian full time and might never be free is down to the few million Brits who rode their luck in 1940.......and then the USA came to the old worlds rescue 2 years later.......we all wished it never happen...Polands pain and that of the Jews was the most terrible of all.....it was a very sad time...for the entire world.........
I think its fab we are now free, to a degree, to chat about it now............cherish that freedom...make the most of it....
Long live free Polska!
Frank
5 Nov 2006
Life / Are Polish People Racist? [1037]
Hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm......again..must challenge....its ok to be racist...hold those views...even if polite....etc.....as for some of the laughable abusive comments, it diminishes the person who makes them, fellow board members who feel they have to respond and shows up society for its shallowness, and never ending ability to let one down!
My point is, that once you feel you can treat one group of prople, for any reason less fairly than another group....then everyone looses out.
Whether you call it racism, bigotry, ageism, sexism etc...is immaterial..it all boils down to one group/person feeling superior to another and can therefore treat someone less well/fairly.
Its an inate, instinctive response to societys need to protect its territory, women and food ( aka jobs). people don't like new/different things esp if they impact on them.
Hence this thread being full of instinctive but damaging responses....things such as what have east europeans done for GB....Michael Howard/Nigel Lawson ( UK Foreign Secretary/Chancellor) and many succesful business men all originated in E Europe...not quite sure which part of Germany Q Elizabeth came from!!
Yes, if you feel the need to discriminate against anyone for any reason...then you perpetuate all of these beliefs and give permission to anyone else to discriminate against you, your family and ethnic group/country........so what you sow you so must reap......am unsurprised by the low level nature of most posts on this thread........
Lock and delete...I say....:)
PS I coulda swore it was your great neighbours Germany/Russia who came up with a cruel savage agreement to carve up your country, then invaded/slaughtered and destroyed your country.....NOT the UK,....history.....depends what you read......!
Hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm......again..must challenge....its ok to be racist...hold those views...even if polite....etc.....as for some of the laughable abusive comments, it diminishes the person who makes them, fellow board members who feel they have to respond and shows up society for its shallowness, and never ending ability to let one down!
My point is, that once you feel you can treat one group of prople, for any reason less fairly than another group....then everyone looses out.
Whether you call it racism, bigotry, ageism, sexism etc...is immaterial..it all boils down to one group/person feeling superior to another and can therefore treat someone less well/fairly.
Its an inate, instinctive response to societys need to protect its territory, women and food ( aka jobs). people don't like new/different things esp if they impact on them.
Hence this thread being full of instinctive but damaging responses....things such as what have east europeans done for GB....Michael Howard/Nigel Lawson ( UK Foreign Secretary/Chancellor) and many succesful business men all originated in E Europe...not quite sure which part of Germany Q Elizabeth came from!!
Yes, if you feel the need to discriminate against anyone for any reason...then you perpetuate all of these beliefs and give permission to anyone else to discriminate against you, your family and ethnic group/country........so what you sow you so must reap......am unsurprised by the low level nature of most posts on this thread........
Lock and delete...I say....:)
PS I coulda swore it was your great neighbours Germany/Russia who came up with a cruel savage agreement to carve up your country, then invaded/slaughtered and destroyed your country.....NOT the UK,....history.....depends what you read......!
Frank
4 Nov 2006
UK, Ireland / BEWARE when coming over UK [363]
It makes a terrible headline...........but don't believe everything you read in GB press....mostly hysterical, headline grabbing, self righteous crap, sure it happens.....apparently GB is coming down with working girls, but vast majority are local...how many are "traded"...NO-ONE actually knows....!
Don't blame east europeans en masse....................if there wasn't a market......then no one would be traded!!....so the blame lies squarely at the feet of males who use the same.
Same argument applies to illegal drugs.........if you buy them...then you are a part of THE most awful crimes .......committed in the name of drug trading/manufacturing.....does that stop 2 million people in GB taking drugs every week......................eeemmm....no!!!
Welcome to the Criminal Nation that is the United Kingdom!!!!!!!!!
PS A few more Polish/Latvian/Lithuainian etc criminals.........just adds to the blend!
It makes a terrible headline...........but don't believe everything you read in GB press....mostly hysterical, headline grabbing, self righteous crap, sure it happens.....apparently GB is coming down with working girls, but vast majority are local...how many are "traded"...NO-ONE actually knows....!
Don't blame east europeans en masse....................if there wasn't a market......then no one would be traded!!....so the blame lies squarely at the feet of males who use the same.
Same argument applies to illegal drugs.........if you buy them...then you are a part of THE most awful crimes .......committed in the name of drug trading/manufacturing.....does that stop 2 million people in GB taking drugs every week......................eeemmm....no!!!
Welcome to the Criminal Nation that is the United Kingdom!!!!!!!!!
PS A few more Polish/Latvian/Lithuainian etc criminals.........just adds to the blend!
Frank
3 Nov 2006
Love / Do Poles consider getting married more than other nations? [21]
Yeah...its great being a King.........so you can commit adultery AND father endless bastard heirs effectively...is this not the case?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
English versions of religion are based on one thing and one thing only......getting an heir to a throne.....and we thought other religions were based on bunkum?.....lol
Yeah...its great being a King.........so you can commit adultery AND father endless bastard heirs effectively...is this not the case?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
English versions of religion are based on one thing and one thing only......getting an heir to a throne.....and we thought other religions were based on bunkum?.....lol
Frank
3 Nov 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
I think freddy, you'll find UK jails were plenty full of indigenous criminals before any recent immigration!
Plus I think you'll find plenty of UK people in foreign jails.
I think freddy, you'll find UK jails were plenty full of indigenous criminals before any recent immigration!
Plus I think you'll find plenty of UK people in foreign jails.
Frank
2 Nov 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
Marginally........lol....but at least the daft/anti-anybody posts have been diluted......:)
I think I'll stop posting in this thread..........
Marginally........lol....but at least the daft/anti-anybody posts have been diluted......:)
I think I'll stop posting in this thread..........
Frank
2 Nov 2006
Frank
2 Nov 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
....must get that virtual imaginary dog....put down by a virtual vet.........
PS I alwyas keep my differently coloured socks in the fridge....just to keep me cool.......even though I have a shaved head...........
Thanx BTW.....
PS MY head aint shaved.......:)
....must get that virtual imaginary dog....put down by a virtual vet.........
PS I alwyas keep my differently coloured socks in the fridge....just to keep me cool.......even though I have a shaved head...........
Thanx BTW.....
PS MY head aint shaved.......:)
Frank
1 Nov 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
No probs....must get that metal polish ( no pun intended) out, to shine up my armour......now where did I put that white charger.......
" As weird as weird goes.......ta tum....ta tum....lol"
No probs....must get that metal polish ( no pun intended) out, to shine up my armour......now where did I put that white charger.......
" As weird as weird goes.......ta tum....ta tum....lol"
Frank
1 Nov 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
........aahhheeemmm........might have to take one myself...........though not quite sure why....lol
........aahhheeemmm........might have to take one myself...........though not quite sure why....lol
Frank
1 Nov 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
Patrycja........was sorta hoping you'd say I at least a little bit weird.......most Irishmen are.....and if you mind me saying...those type of semi-compliments, in Ireland almost amount to a proposal of marriage....."clears throat nervously"........but am sure you are just being reasonable.....:)..and thats not the case....
Have posted a few times....but the -00002 size font in posts gets on my goat!!!!
Its more quiet now since its been censored/castrated......:(...or...:)
Patrycja........was sorta hoping you'd say I at least a little bit weird.......most Irishmen are.....and if you mind me saying...those type of semi-compliments, in Ireland almost amount to a proposal of marriage....."clears throat nervously"........but am sure you are just being reasonable.....:)..and thats not the case....
Have posted a few times....but the -00002 size font in posts gets on my goat!!!!
Its more quiet now since its been censored/castrated......:(...or...:)
Frank
1 Nov 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
Gee....am sure wot to say now...yes its me...same Frank.....will that be bad or good for this forum, should I brown nose more, or just keep ploughing the same furrow?....or was that digging a hole?....lol
Or am I not wierd enuf.......Patrycja........please let me know against which scale I am being measured.....!
Yes Hans, has his own agenda...dunno if its anti-Polish or just non-commital?
But there is now more going on here......more variety etc.......ok...trolls are common place...but it gives Admin...a bit to do, plus allows us to ignore them...........or even ( for one or two)...feel superior.....lol
Gee....am sure wot to say now...yes its me...same Frank.....will that be bad or good for this forum, should I brown nose more, or just keep ploughing the same furrow?....or was that digging a hole?....lol
Or am I not wierd enuf.......Patrycja........please let me know against which scale I am being measured.....!
Yes Hans, has his own agenda...dunno if its anti-Polish or just non-commital?
But there is now more going on here......more variety etc.......ok...trolls are common place...but it gives Admin...a bit to do, plus allows us to ignore them...........or even ( for one or two)...feel superior.....lol
Frank
1 Nov 2006
Real Estate / Apartment purchase in Poland [226]
Brian, there are a few web addresses on a few of the posts, go back a few pages and do a search....good luck!
PS Wroclaw.......can you e-mail me?
Brian, there are a few web addresses on a few of the posts, go back a few pages and do a search....good luck!
PS Wroclaw.......can you e-mail me?
Frank
1 Nov 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....not a mother figure on the board too.....are you and Fisz, married in virtual life?....lol
Basically, they behave like groups of young English lads....?....so they are doing what local lads do?....hhhhmmmmmmmm
Jem...this sorta post has been done many times before..........why repeat it endlessly......?
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....not a mother figure on the board too.....are you and Fisz, married in virtual life?....lol
Basically, they behave like groups of young English lads....?....so they are doing what local lads do?....hhhhmmmmmmmm
Jem...this sorta post has been done many times before..........why repeat it endlessly......?
Frank
31 Oct 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
LOl....whats that in French.......Dejeuner Joyeux avec joue?.....:)...seulement E1.99!!
LOl....whats that in French.......Dejeuner Joyeux avec joue?.....:)...seulement E1.99!!
Frank
31 Oct 2006
Frank
31 Oct 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
........gee....je suis perdu...maintenant!............aidez moi........Fisz!!!!.....lol
........gee....je suis perdu...maintenant!............aidez moi........Fisz!!!!.....lol
Frank
31 Oct 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
......c'est ne pas grave........D_G.........d'accord?
......c'est ne pas grave........D_G.........d'accord?
Frank
31 Oct 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
"Je ne sais pas c'est a vous de decouvrir cette surprise".....c'est naturelle......n'est pas?.....
"Je ne sais pas c'est a vous de decouvrir cette surprise".....c'est naturelle......n'est pas?.....
Frank
31 Oct 2006
Frank
31 Oct 2006
Frank
31 Oct 2006
Frank
31 Oct 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
Love gals who can speak french...D_G..........well sorta speak it.....lol...:)
Love gals who can speak french...D_G..........well sorta speak it.....lol...:)
Frank
31 Oct 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
Fisz............read my line re being duped/dumped by his Polish girl friend!!...hes just lashing out....I think...lol
Fisz............read my line re being duped/dumped by his Polish girl friend!!...hes just lashing out....I think...lol
Frank
31 Oct 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
I think its much more complex than that Ola, forgive me for having a "history book" only perspective, but Germany and Russia met secretly to carve Poland up for themselves, then the Germans shafted the Russians.
Russians "helped" you clear your land from Germans, only because they could then "rubbish" your country for a second time( again correct me , but the Russians had a dislike of Polish people nearly as much as the Germans!!!).....feel free Polish people to join in and balance this discussion!!
You have to look at the MAIN culprits here..........point any finger you want at the other countries above!
PS I am Irish....two of my uncles joined voluntarily to fight on the side of the British during the war......they didn't have to...they had NO responsiblities to UK, France, USA Poland, etc.............but they tried to do what was right!
PPSS No need to thank me belatedly................they only did it because they felt they had too....no reward...not their fight....but they did their best......ok?
I think its much more complex than that Ola, forgive me for having a "history book" only perspective, but Germany and Russia met secretly to carve Poland up for themselves, then the Germans shafted the Russians.
Russians "helped" you clear your land from Germans, only because they could then "rubbish" your country for a second time( again correct me , but the Russians had a dislike of Polish people nearly as much as the Germans!!!).....feel free Polish people to join in and balance this discussion!!
You have to look at the MAIN culprits here..........point any finger you want at the other countries above!
PS I am Irish....two of my uncles joined voluntarily to fight on the side of the British during the war......they didn't have to...they had NO responsiblities to UK, France, USA Poland, etc.............but they tried to do what was right!
PPSS No need to thank me belatedly................they only did it because they felt they had too....no reward...not their fight....but they did their best......ok?
Frank
31 Oct 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
Sorry, guys...fill me in on whose blitzkrieg campaign started all this in Sept. '39......?
Who then ravaged your country....raped your women, committed genocide against the Jewish population, ghettoized warsaw, slaughtered the inhabitants.......destroyed your towns and cities.......rubbish an entire race of Polish people???
And your great russian friends.....?.........and you thought the Germans were bad....?
I'm sorry..........but this doesnt add up...........
Sorry, guys...fill me in on whose blitzkrieg campaign started all this in Sept. '39......?
Who then ravaged your country....raped your women, committed genocide against the Jewish population, ghettoized warsaw, slaughtered the inhabitants.......destroyed your towns and cities.......rubbish an entire race of Polish people???
And your great russian friends.....?.........and you thought the Germans were bad....?
I'm sorry..........but this doesnt add up...........
Frank
31 Oct 2006
UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]
Fisz......you'd make a wonderful mother/father...such mastery on the board!!
"[i]Wild applause in the background......:)...."[i]
Jem.....was duped/dumped by a Polish girl in the UK,apparently...hence his lack or rationality.......:(...take no notice!
Ola....well thank you very much for your understanding..............but I think if you read the history books, it was your neighbours, Germany and Russia who killed/murdered 1/4 of your countrymen........correct me if I am wrong.......they started the whole thing,yes?
Then thats a very cheap shot! End of my replies to this thread....:)
Fisz......you'd make a wonderful mother/father...such mastery on the board!!
"[i]Wild applause in the background......:)...."[i]
Jem.....was duped/dumped by a Polish girl in the UK,apparently...hence his lack or rationality.......:(...take no notice!
Ola....well thank you very much for your understanding..............but I think if you read the history books, it was your neighbours, Germany and Russia who killed/murdered 1/4 of your countrymen........correct me if I am wrong.......they started the whole thing,yes?
Then thats a very cheap shot! End of my replies to this thread....:)