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Ironside   
28 Oct 2009
News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

Why not move FORWARD and disprove the common (mis)perception that Poland is a backward-looking country!?

Concise - perception of Poland has nothing to do with reality, so any steps taken in real world to change that perception is a waste of time.

The only thing that can influence shift of perceptions is success and money.
So, talking do not change a thing:)

Ironside, you apply dangerous logic.

Maybe, but knife can be dangerous too, yet knife is most common used tool on the planed.

Why not give Silesia back to Germany?

Well, why not?
I know, do you?

Why not give Palestine their land back while you are at it?

Well, give them back their lands Seanus, I'll not hold you back:P
Ironside   
28 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

However at present we have no means of aquiring it without damaging our diplomatic standing,

Yes, now!

In other words time have changed and Lwów is no longer Polish, sorry but you gotta live with it and deal with it, most of us do.

I know that:)
You really have a problem with logic - Why would I advocate to take Lwów back if I would have thought that Lwów is Polish?

Who's homes then? Most people dont have the papers to prove their families owned property in Lwów, most of buildings and lands in Lwów were owned by private citizens not by Polish state so you're advocating stealing from Ukrainians.

Do you think that present residents have got documents issued by prewar Polish government?If they do , they can keep their property.
States don't steal they take:P

Well then enlighten us!

Well, We have to prepare ourself on all counts, economical, political and military!
Only strong, vibrant state can successfully take back its lands, it may take years, so what?

n the end Poland would still lose Lwów to Russia, its most developed Western provinces to Germany, become ostracized by Europe at large and ruined by attempting to revive a poor sh*thole that Lwów currently is.

Good planing is the key!
Now Socrates use your brain !
Who is gonna take seriously country, which lost lands being part of it for century's and do not want to take it back ?
What if Germans take back their lands and Ukrainians take Przemysl?
Can you foresee the future ?
The only solution is Poland as a world power and first power in Europe!
To achieve it Poles need to rekindle their lost spirit - to do that they need a dream!
And dream about Lwów is better then most as that land should belong to Poland as it is part of our heritage, more so then other prewar lost territories !

Do you understand now?
Ironside   
28 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

You need to have an economic base to project power, we don't.

Isn't it being obvious?

your definition elites are always in power

yes, but is not only attribute of the elite.

Most who?

Ask them, make a thread - it could be educational for you:)

Sjam

Is left wing liberal, who thinks himself Polish but doesn't understand us.

Maregea

He is OK.

i'm radical

No, you only fancy yourself radial and you are babbling average boy:)

you're just being stupid,

Well, thank you:) coming from you is only confirmation that you are clueless:D

you want our former lands back at the expense of our neighbour but you ignore the irreparable damage it would do to our international relations across the board and our economy from within.

You are being silly, our neighbor is in possession of our land on our expense, and .....again ....isn't it just obvious ?
How do you know what would happened if you don't know circumstances of such transition ?As I have said - you think you know.

Stop crying about economy it is significant for people who don't have a clue about economy.

You're basically calling for an action that would damage Poland on every possible field and bring us absolutely nothing.

Logical reasoning is not your cup of tea, isn't it?

i have a grasp on reality

I doubt it:p

moral backbone and am not willing to boot people from their homes

Their homes? Well, its debatable from the moral point of view!
And its not moral backbone it is your skinny ass boy!

but hey you have a dream so i guess thats allright for you to spout idiocy.

There was another man with dream JoshepP, and another in USA in 60's, according to you they were idiots.
Well, maybe nobody is as wise as Socrates.

I-S ( and very good)
Ironside   
28 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

In that case....when does the polish army start marching? ;)

See militaristic nonsense, I'll take our lands back by banks and credit's. Thats how its work nowadays:p

Or maybe when there will be Polish Army and State, not some puppets on the string!

When Ironside orders them to!

always taking obvious path, cannot stop himself babbling away..... Socrates, no wonder they stuffed him with hemlock - so boring.

And what makes You the elite Iron?

Oh I'm not elite as I'm not in power, yet.
What? Everything that you are not and what make you statistical - average:)
On PF most think that you are racist, anti-Semite, homophobic and fascist ....and so on!
And yet, you call me radical - think about it :)
I have a dream..... and you have ....nasty attitude and none self restrain.

I-S ( I know or I don't know;you think that you know)
Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

So is over 70% of Poles butlers? B

well, its seems that way isn't it?

Face it Iron apart from some fringe wackos like you no one wants Lwów back and historical sentiment is the only thing we have left for it.

The small numbers always govern big numbers hence the name elite .....you may call it as you like :)

I-S (its simple)
Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

No thanks.

you are disgrace....some butler not martial Sarmata

I-S ( phew!)

you can only undo it through another ethnic cleansing and theft!

halo ?
what theft? that property was stolen and if rightful owner retrieve it - that justices, no theft!

I-S ( WTF?)
Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

There's not that much of it but its still worth a fortune or are you just calling for us to steal from them.

its all depend how such transition occurs, if because of mutual agreement there will be compensation or houses build by Poles in the Ukraine.
if by the means of Mars in martial way - they'll get zero!

Those owners are dead and most Poles dont have the proper documents which means every Joe can claim his family was from Lwów.

They have scions don't they and documents are not that important, it could be checked.
Where is a will there is a way!

You realise the immidiate region is populated by 2 milion people? To have Lwów even remotely operational we'd have to uproot valuable personnel (sorry but country rednecks just wont do you need engineers, doctors and others) which would destabilise the countrys economy.

There some Polish people living there as others nationalities, they can stay as can anyone who will apply for citizenship as a Polish national.
There enough people in Poland with education and there educated people abroad .....

You worry too much !

n other words you're advocatting theft, expulsion and racist policies that brought us and Ukrainians to the point of war so many times before, good work champ, i'm glad you're a minority.

What are you blabbing about ?
I propose undone ethnic cleansing and theft done by Soviets and UPA
Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

I don't, but I find it amusing how you and some others have a discussion about bringing the Ukraine "heim ins Reich" (= Poland).

No comparison to Germany is right.
and if you liked the play, give us a cheer! :)

Hasn't this been discussed in another thread? I thought that the Soviets already paid for the rebuilding... ;)

nope, and by the way do you actually believe that Soviets paid for anything except spy's and western liberals and minority movements ?

It looks like that's already going on.

Vive la procreation!
Fight back scrappy, defend your country with your.... DNA! :P

I-S (procreation - yeah!)
Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

What do you care?
Must be something in the air always Germans and Germans, did anyone said "sorry Poland our fathers **** you for no reason, here your land back, and keep the rest as a compensation" - no, aways strut up.

Answer:

Sure, as they'll pay us for rebuilding of those lands, and if so, We want all pre-war lands, not only Lwów and area!:P

I-S (why not?)
Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

purely theoretical situation, we get Lwów back, now i have a couple of question, what would you assuming you're in power do with the local Ukrainian population, who would you settle Lwów with and how would you deal with our economy being weighed down with annexing such a large and extremely poor region?

Local Ukrainian population should be moved to Ukraine.
Populated by owners of property stolen by Soviets and anybody who would like to buy property cheaply.
Poor? rather poorly developed!
I disagree with your assumption about weighted down economy- first because is illogical :)

I-S (yeah - illogical)
Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
Life / How do Polish people view themselves? [92]

WTF?

Are you talking to me?
Are you talking to I?

if so .......

inferior because non-European, what being this or that power has any-thing to do with anything?

I-S (Dolly is degenerating fast, no future in cloning?)
Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
Life / How do Polish people view themselves? [92]

so they feel superior to non Europeans ( Africans, Arabs, or Australian aborigines ) but inferior to rest of 'better' Europe?

Who said something about inferiority ?
Maybe YOU feel inferior, hence the expression.
To the rest of the country;s considered European, attitude vary.

I-S (sleepless silly people are aplenty)

It is pointless to talk about superior cultures. We are just different and that's that. Why would they trample on disenfranchised Russians? It's not the people's fault that they operate a quasi-autocracy there.

I'm only doing my best to answer some issues risen by M-G!
I do not make any statements or declarations here.

As to Russians, I'm talking about culture not individual Russians or some aspects of they culture. Generally they are seen as non-Europeans and therefore inferior - culturally inferior(and rightly so I may add).

I-S ( silly dwarf with shining head, reason for Stephen King story?just a thought)
Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
Life / How do Polish people view themselves? [92]

They inherently think we're are some clowns about two iq points above an amoeba.

You constantly are giving them munition with your posts!
You bald-headed dwarf !
Ironside   
27 Oct 2009
Life / How do Polish people view themselves? [92]

it seems like they regard themselves as being somewhat superior or at least better than other cultures and countries.

Yes, you are correct that they regard themselves as being somewhat superior then other cultures,not all though. Some do and some don't:).

They regard themselves superior to Russians and most non-European country's!
The reason is simple: Poland is European culture and that culture is superior.

I-S (if you have any question about the subject, do not hesitate and ask away)
Ironside   
25 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

Ukraine is facing some hard times in sense of economy and politics today but your conclusion goes too far.

whatever as long as we get our land back.
Ironside   
25 Oct 2009
Love / Why are Polish girls constantly ill? [166]

From what I see, it seems that most of polish girls are athlethic with muscles.

did one of them has kicked **** out of your little green hide ?
Ironside   
25 Oct 2009
Love / Polish Gay Life [142]

No idea!
I guess there have some life here!

I-S ( who the hell care as long as they stay private)
Ironside   
25 Oct 2009
Love / Do not marry Polish woman [212]

Do not marry any Polish woman

stay away from them at all times ...
Ironside   
25 Oct 2009
Love / Why are Polish girls constantly ill? [166]

Problems with the heart,allergies,headaches,skin problems,abdominal pains,weight gain,they have all kinds of medical problems,whether young or old.Is this a psychosomatic demonstration of stress?Of depression?
And all this medication taking and doctors visiting.Incredible.

maybe its reaction to you ... !

I-S ( ohm)
Ironside   
20 Oct 2009
History / Ross kemp on Polish Gangs/Nazis - Untermenschen Nazis..?? [69]

For no reason except their own inadequacy.

oh pleaseeee.......

We don't have to kill them, but give them the beating of a lifetime,

whats the difference then between being beaten because of love, tolerance and being beaten because of hate and fear?

What does fascism has to do with Jews or anti-intellectualism

I think correct question should be - what anti-antisemitism and anti-intellectualism has to do with fascism? And being on the subject, Anti-antisemitism and ant-intellectualism is not indication of one being fascist and such automatic assumption on your part

fascism

is clearly indication of practical application of ant-intellectualism if I have ever seen one!

I-S ( fed up with shallow water and pseudo-intellectualism, time for apple juice)