News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

'Wszystkie odbywały się poza ministerstwami spraw zagranicznych i nikt nie potrafi dzisiaj przytoczyć ich treści'. You are basing your case on this? Again, it's unsubstantiated and unproven.

What bollocks! Prove that Poland could have overcome Germany in 1934. Show me some stats rather than false bravado, Sok.

Sok, again nonsense! Checked what exactly? The way I see it is that many communications were sent in Britain by Simon and his warnings went unheeded. There was a general consensus that rearmament was alarming but concerted action was not taken. There was too much reliance placed on Non-Aggression Pacts and that was costly. There WAS a lack of coordination on the point of a preventive war.

Again, pulling figures out of your jacksie doesn't impress me as they have no foundation. Again, proof please.

If indeed the discussions between the Polish marshalls and French generals took place, then the French would have entertained a solid proposition. However, they likely perceived the wishy-washy approach as not worthy of pursuing. They didn't feel the will and commitment to be enough.

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The point is clear, Gumi. Those authors felt that Piłsudski missed chances and let Germany rearm unabated.

There wasn't enough of a clear dialogue between Poland, France and Britain. That much was true. As for a preventive war, see the link above. Sir John Simon was ignored and he shouldn't have been. Given his position, that was a blunder by the Brits. Piłsudski also had a reasonable army in 1933 and could have scored some success.

Sokrates said he "proposed" this. You said "suggested the French", Gumi. Sorry, a strong hint is not an actual proposition or an actual suggestion in this case, is it?. It's a possibility, don't you agree?

It hasn't been traced in the archives. Sth like that would be easy to trace given its magnitude. Also, the French would likely have agreed as they were far more concerned than the British at the rapid pace of rearmament of the Nazis. The Brits naively placed too much trust in the ententes of the time.

Where did I mention the word 'alone'? Where did I say when he planned his attacks? He had plans on the table and he banked on one enemy taking out the other.

News / THE HOMINTERN IN POLAND? [80]

If I consider it as verbal diarrhoea, then yes, lesser :)

News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

Please read this article on the strategy of preventive war. The French and British miscalculated too. By 1936, it was too late. All major powers missed the chance but I see no mention of Piłsudski in this important paper.

allacademic.com//meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/2/5/0/8/0/pages250802/p250802-13.php, page 13 of 17

News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

[library.du.ac.in/dspace/bitstream/1/9/29/Ch28-Jozef%20Pilsudski.pdf] - another guy who agrees with me. Look at page 24 of 25, from 'He grasped.....enemy neighbours'.

The authors Hehn, Kershaw and Davidson felt that Piłsudzki was inept in giving Germany time to rearm and underplayed the post-Versailles sentiment.

Here, ^ Baliszewski, Dariusz (2004-11-28). "Ostatnia wojna marszałka" (in Polish). Wprost (Agencja Wydawniczo-Reklamowa "Wprost") (48/2004; 1148).

Even if Hitler attacked , it would also be defense - claimed Pilsudski in 1934 Pilsudski wanted war. No one ever said it out loud , but those who closely followed political events in 1932 and 1933, did not have the slightest doubt : threatened resurgent German militarism Poland itself sought to war. In the history of this mysterious chapter is called " Polish preventive war " and to this day no one was able to explain what was in it truth and what is merely a legend.

The above link by a POLISH source shows Piłsudski's approach to France as being unsubstantiated hearsay at best. Can you show me the proof that he asked France for help? The way I see it is that France played their hand at Locarno and went down the road of appeasement and Piłsudski would have known that.

It was Piłsudski who had very limited faith in those pacts so cut the crap. As I said, he broke down when the prospect that all his good work would go undone emerged.

News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

Gumishu, I think you are having inner arguments as you proved my point better than yours. Show me the documents as proof that the Nazis were in much better shape come 1939? Excluding leaks, that was FAR from common knowledge at that time. Pilsudzki didn't see Germany as a threat based on what evidence, an arrogant hunch? Wow, he was clearly not a fan of Sun-Tzu's 'The Art of War'. He was a man wrapped up in his own egomaniacal 'glory' and thought he could take on the Russians and the Germans.

I have a friend here who works as a Coordinator of EU funds. His name is Jacek K (sorry, can't reveal his full name for obvious reasons) and I had a long chat with him about it. I studied EU funds back in the day.

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

Blood-soaked cities, Yehudi? What do you mean? Personally, I don't see any Jews causing problems here but that's not to say it doesn't happen. There is definitely anti-Semitism here but, as I have said before, general indifference as the Poles are an insular bunch.

News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

Not presumptions. On that point, I am sure. It's presumptions btw.

News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

No, I don't see why diversity and integration shouldn't come Poland's way. Poland is enjoying the fruits of the EU and had an exit clause in May 2004. Many Poles are much happier in the UK and Poles here are getting benefits from German sponsored packages in the form of EU funds.

Well, being so well read, I'm sure you know Aescherson. He presented the figures very clearly in his book 'The Struggles for Poland'. Poland's state of development was not a patch on that of the Nazi war machine. Pilsudzki didn't push for the modernization of conventional weaponry and that was a costly mistake. You are not more of an authority than Aescherson, are you?

News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

A preventive war, LOL. A war preventing what, a further war? A war which they likely would have lost and started a broader conflict anyway. Think before you write, gumishu. I was talking about him naively thinking that the Germans were not a major force and believing that a few tanks, horses and old machinery would somehow be enough to stave off the threats and counterparry to victory. It was Piłsudzki himself who cried in 1933 when he had forebodings about the demise of Poland yet he still ruffled feathers in times of fervent nationalism.

It is you who are talking rubbish on this occasion. Test me then, Gumi. Maybe my Polish history is more objective and balanced than yours, right?

News / THE HOMINTERN IN POLAND? [80]

How about those drunken louts shouting obscenities and sounding like loud-mouthed bozos on the streets? Are they acceptable, Pol3?

News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

He wanted to almost fuse Lithuania with Poland, Ironside. That's what I meant.

Dmowski was a man of science, with Biology being his speciality. He wanted to be a rationalist for the country, sb who wouldn't embrace flighty romanticism but sth more grounded and pragmatic. The basic affairs of the state were not to be governed by lofty ideals such as Piłsudski's undermining of Russia at any cost. Dmowski sought to inculcate this approach and I think he would have been more practical in his approach to Nazi Germany and the Stalinist Soviet Union.

Piłsudski stoked the fire, inflamming other nations and this, coupled with a major miscalculation of the strength of Nazism, sealed his fate and secured the downfall of the country. Still, an untimely death for a man of potential. A sincere RIP!

News / THE HOMINTERN IN POLAND? [80]

Pol3, you do your rearing and let gays do their 'rearing' :) We are talking about private consensual acts which don't cause harm to others.

Language / mój - moja [28]

That's hard to remember, things like ta część as being feminine. It takes a bit of getting used to.

News / THE HOMINTERN IN POLAND? [80]

Very well put, jonni :) Snoopy the Snooper needs to stick his beak out of other people's private business.

Also, we cannot have selective application of fundamental human rights. To do otherwise would be to take a holier-than-thou position which we surely don't want.

News / THE HOMINTERN IN POLAND? [80]

I second that. More verbal diarrhoea from the Christian Right. Leave America alone with your righteous nonsense! God made life to have imperfections and we have to deal with them. Why do you think we hear of fundamental human rights? Not for some prescriptive interventionist to come in and try and proscribe them.

Let it Be, Pol3. Take a chill pill and let life takes its course.

Real Christians and the Christian Right are different, I might add. A bit like Jewish Rabbis and raving Zionists.

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

"Anyone who DOESN'T think Israel, as a race, and especially as a religion, is not hatefully racist in its dealings, lives in ignorance" from the wonderkid Gunslinger.

Israel is neither a race nor a religion, Sherlock, it's a state recognised by the UN.

Why the noises now? Like barking little puppies. Israel has broken more UN Resolutions than all other nations combined. Who is paying such fools to make them?

Either do sth about it or zip it!!

News / 14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]

I've dealt with such fools before, M-G. In Hiroshima, I got involved in a tussle with Jehova's Witnesses for their harassing+intrusive behaviour. I often went to church as a kid and also got 100% in my RE exams. However, I never go around telling people what's what in the Bible as we must accept that Catholics and Protestants interpret the word of God differently. However, invoking the Bible to defend the product of a criminal action is misguided and downright insincere!!

I wonder if he'd be surprised that I am generally anti-abortion (though I don't like taking hard and fast positions). It is axiomatic that killing is bad but heuristics are only that, rules of thumb.

Let's put it to the man. Please imagine your wife just been raped and she is inconsolable. She feels dirty and wants to wipe any trace of this act out of her sight and memory. She trembles and is distant. She married you because she wanted your sperm to make a baby. You know, part of the standard family unit as a corollary of marriage. Are you gonna whip out the pro-life position and risk the deterioration of the marriage?? Practicalities remember :)

Seanus (even better one, M-G. Let his put his money where his mealy mouth is)

News / Should Poland acquire the atomic bomb? [28]

I know, the Other. Still, why should Russia have them and not Poland? Who gives anyone the right to decide for others what they have decided for themselves? Russia is cutting back, fine, that's their perogative. Still, that shouldn't preclude the right of self determination of Poles.

Love / What do Polish women think of feminism? [99]

Gunslinger, you are a prize buffoon!! You know that, right? You have radical feminists and moderate feminists. Although the objectices are broadly similar, their means are vastly different.

You are some verbiose guy who just loves to spout. Slavic women are generally harsh/rugged types and pretty too. Maybe they are feminists according to your contrived logic, co?

You just see what you want to see. I can tell you that I've known feminists who were abused my women, not men. Where's the penis envy there, sonny?

Many feminists are writers who don't take up obstreperous street protests and aren't some cantankerous louts but more reasoned social commentators. They study hard and produce material, just like researchers do.

Anyway, this is just my retort to you. The thread is addressed to Polish women and you don't seem to be one.

News / 14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]

And in steps the idiotic howling Harry hoof to give his tuppence worth. This verbal diarrh(o)ea from an American businessman no less. We can talk when you become sth noble like a teacher, not a screwmerchant.

That baby was never meant to be conceived you disingenuous prat. How dare you burden the mother with a lasting scar, what kind of creep are you? Get off your high horse and start thinking about it from her point of view. Chauvinistic pig! How dare you, how friggin dare you use the good Bible to smear your sh*t here!!!!!!!!?

I could really clock bellends like you! If the state refused my wife an abortion because a man raped her, I'd be livid. She will have my baby, not some dirty criminal's. Got it? Righteous wank*r! Wise up and start being more sensitive to the needs of the victim.

News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

Well, they had relations with the murderous Bush and Cheney, Tony Blair and Gordon Brown and a host of others.

Oh, just like Poles celebrate the imperialistic Piłsudski who was also a dictator to boot!? Dmowski would have been more practical and pragmatic in such affairs.

Get in touch with the modern day Ukraine. I doubt that they celebrate such killers.

News / Should Poland acquire the atomic bomb? [28]

It's not about conquering but about meaning business. It's all about deterrence.

News / Should Poland acquire the atomic bomb? [28]

The very fact of intervention and chasing those weirdie beardies. The tribal areas are soon to be shaken up and this will lead to headlopping paradise for those frail oil chaps. In fact, the Pakistan national army went in a couple of weeks back. Bombs are going off quicker than whor*s drop their kegs. Pakistan was never that unstable prior to US and NATO intervention. They want to wreak havoc to give themselves a reason to be there.

News / Should Poland acquire the atomic bomb? [28]

Destabilising Pakistan is a risky strategy for sure. However, they are on better terms with their neighbour India now.

As for Poland, if they want a bargaining tool and some leverage then by all means :)

Life / Polish 'Barbie Doll': What do Polish Women Think? [12]

Not only based on Wiki, trotter. That's not my preferred choice of info :) (well, it spreads BS about 9/11 for starters).

UK, Ireland / Britain's bad teeth [77]

Elmex I think it's called. My grandad uses a lovely toothpaste called Euthymol. It's pink and has a very particular taste.

News / Should Poland acquire the atomic bomb? [28]

It's all hysteria and downright hypocritical. Israel has no right to possess them if Iran doesn't. Give me a good reason why that should be the case.

UK, Ireland / Britain's bad teeth [77]

She had very white teeth indeed. She used specialist toothpaste. That dentist's chair can be used for more than dentistry, I imagine ;0 ;)

News / Should Poland acquire the atomic bomb? [28]

What we all tend to forget, or maybe don't know, is that Israel has a very high-tech monitoring system in place. What they fear most is the development in bunkers where their equipment likely cannot penetrate with any accuracy.