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14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]
The real truth is that many legislators from around the world have ruled it to be legal and we should try and at least hear them out to see where they are coming from. I reiterate, I am far from being a staunch advocate of abortion and, in fact, condemn slackness which causes the whole dilemma of 'to abort or not to abort' to be brought about.
My wife, God Bless her, put me to the test yesterday. She asked me to imagine I was a pro-lifer and that she'd introduce twists and turns so that I'd have to react accordingly. It took the form of a doctor's consultation. Wow, she threw in some real tricky posers which would have stumped most doctors. She played the part well, tempering emotional 'maternal' concerns with rational practicality and 'state of knowledge' issues. You need to be aware of how divisive the issue is. Medical opinion is very split on key aspects of it.
I'm a humanitarian guy who protests stances against the Palestinians and any other oppressed peoples. I would also like to see conceived babies emerge as well-nourished, healthy ones. However, we musn't let that blight our judgements.
Gunslinger, I want you to address these issues:
1) Do you really think that most women have malice aforethought when making the decision to abort?
2) Is it fair and natural to the kid to allow the situation to arise where they must ask their adopted parents who their real parents are? Is it fair to keep that as a secret from them? How would you like to hear that you were a bast*rd child not born out of wedlock and love (as God would have it) but out of a heinous crime such as rape? Depending on the sensitivity of the child, that could lead to infinite torment and a collapse of their identity. After all, the purpose of life is a life of purpose. I don't know about you but part of that purpose involves a rich family life with parents who wanted me
and still want me. Their love and support is invaluable and priceless to me. What sentimental feelings has that child born of rape? Does quality of life have no meaning to you?
3) Also, check out suicide.org/rape-victims-prone-to-suicide.html. It says that 33% of rape victims are prone to suicide so that's a further danger in and of itself. Wouldn't you want to drop the burden by aborting? The kid will always serve as a harsh reminder by being carried around in her belly.
Let me address your point as to the kid being innocent. By all accounts, it is. Nobody could deny that. However, what legal status does that kid have? Another issue, foetal sentience. What awareness does it have of termination?
'Ann Furedi, director of the Birth Control Trust, is more concerned about the psychological impact that this kind of speculation could have on women: 89 per cent of aborted foetuses are less than 12 weeks old, only 1.2 per cent of abortions are carried out when the mother is above 20 weeks pregnant, usually because of foetal abnormality', taken from a brilliant article, timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=102525§ioncode=26
With reference to the paragraph above, 89% is a high number indeed. I surmise that the number of aborted foetuses for raped women would be even higher, between 95-100%. Consider that many women aren't aware that a stray sperm slipped out and don't take action immediately, instead preferring to leave it for over 3 months. We can accept 12 weeks as the critical juncture, right? Raped women with a feeling that the rapist may have ejaculated inside her would want restitution as soon as possible, wouldn't you say? There is an available option to remove the sperm but the woman has, I think, 72 hours in which to get it. On this point, I'm not sure on the timing but logic would tell her to seek it out ASAP. This is not like an AIDS test where you should wait around half a year to go and get tested.
By the way, what credentials do you have in medical circles? Me? None. I studied medical ethics with legal repercussions as part of my undergrad which raised my awareness but I'd be blown away by specialists. Isn't it odd that, in reference to the link 2 paras above, NOT ONE of the pro-life lobby had any meaningful medical expertise?? Doesn't inspire much confidence!
independent.co.uk/news/foetuses-can-feel-pain-at-six-weeks-1359581.html
Gunslinger, I prefer to get to the heart of the matter. Sth like a French judge in the inquisitorial procedure. I have no interest in 'being right' but to reach some consensus. I like The Independent as a paper but almost all press is guilty of overassertion. Just look at the heading. Attenion grabbing? Yes. Accurate? No. Some official sources say 13 weeks, others say into the 10th week. The compromise, da da, 12 weeks. NOT 6 weeks.
In conclusion (wreszcie), I have outlined just a few more ramifications and implications. I hope that you address them as, unlike you stated, I
can entertain your opinions and contentions. Bear in mind that medical science does err and is spurred on by agenda serving and ethical concerns of sensitive disclosure.
We both have truths, are mine the same as yours? ;) ;) ;)
