History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


Great example

she is head of this organiation she came to Poland in 39 together with German soldiers and escaped before Russians came (I have checked it) she is one of milions expeled form Poland ... I forgoten about the fact that 30% of members of this organisation are former SS soldiers

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

But Tusk (our PM ) propsal is ok ... he dont want former nazist to participate in this project ... his proposal is to cooperate in this issue because he agreed that sth should be done ... but maybe not in Berlin and maybe not by former SS soldiers ...

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

Ok now we can back to this center issue ....

The fact is that former nazi organizations participate in this project (30% of members are former SS soldiers or NSDAP members) , face of this project will be Steinbach maybe she isnt important, but all in all history of her family shows what kind of expeled she is ( she came to Poland togehther with German armies in 39 and was expeled in 45 )

BB is supporter of NPD (about 30% of support in some parts of East Germany) big chnces to get into parlament in next elections.

Merkel wats to be reelected and cant ignore such big electorate and have started to flirt with them and have made some commisions ... What is more Germans dont want to be puppet and want to be player (noticable) I think that boys like BB are still margin but are stronger and their opinion is taken serious

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


on last tournament we eleminated you in semifinal (in Germany)

as to you ... I think that you are trying sth to prove ... but the fact is that ... you want to rebuild Berln Wall (I have heard both sides would like to do it) ... you dream about 3rd reich ... social benefits ... changing history ... ehhhh .... weakness ...

as to the future I hope that brainful people like the_falkster will be in majority and we will have freindly realtionship ...

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


you dont like your West brothers ? or they dont like you ?


and they call you as they call ... ;-) we know everything

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

I have heard that majority of Eastern Germans would like to re-build Berlin Wall :)))

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

Eastern Germans more nationalistic than Poles and Western Germans ... and disrespected by both ... (because of their point of view)

I think there is kind of mix of complexes ... they feel worst than Western and better than Poles ... interesting


not only during 3rd reich ... whole XIX century ... yes yes we remember ...

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


but it is noticable that eastern Germans are different form Poles and from western Germans ... I have hearded how western Germans call their brothers form east ... for me it is really strange that eastern Germans are so nationalistic ... more than Western.

I think that in your case starting discussion and using terms like nation heritage etc. is trap

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


you have been already mixed with brave Russian soldiers :)

BTW I dont understand why eastern Germans have such problems and are so rasists ... they should accept their origin and live like other nations ... we are Westren Slavs ... Russians are Eastern Slavs and Eastern germans are original mix (Russian - Polish -German) ... and everything is ok :) I dont know what is wrong with them maybe thy need some acceptation form their western brothers (who dont seam to accept them as true Germans ) BB live your life now we are Europeans :) even your PM Merkel (from eastern Germany) is 25% Polish (her Grandfather was Pole form Poznan)

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


last time Germans realized that they should be more important ... they want to have seat in ONZ they want to lead Europe ... they send their soldiers for forigin missions... and they want to talk about history (they have forgoten that they havent payed Poland anything ... so if they really want ... )

Life / New skyscraper in Warsaw... [58]

you know some time ago only Warszawa was developing ... now other big towns joined (Poznan, Wrocław. Krakow, Gdansk, Gdynia even Lodz) so we are going in good direction ... and in smaller towns progres is noticable as well

I think you would like it to be true ... but sory it isnt ...

Life / New skyscraper in Warsaw... [58]


maybe you are right I just wanted to present how it looks ...

Personaly I like "stary browar" in Poznan ;) It is considered as the most bueautiful tradecenter of mid size all over the world.

I have to go there tomorow and buy sth for Chrismasts ;)

Life / New skyscraper in Warsaw... [58]


yes

Life / New skyscraper in Warsaw... [58]


I dont know if it looks so bad ...

Life / New skyscraper in Warsaw... [58]

in Wrocław sb started new project ... I think it is nice one

odra tower, poland

Life / New skyscraper in Warsaw... [58]

not Warszawa citizens decided that it should stay

Life / New skyscraper in Warsaw... [58]

this one in my opinion will be nicer

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


it was Russian army ... but it wasnt ok

Istahu do you find RAF air atacks on Germany as war crime ... I think the same people will build some museum about that without showing Battle of Britan

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

we will see what will happen in future ... I know one thing our PM Tusk is the best what could happen for improvment of our reationship I think ball is on your side ...

as to this centrer ... all political fractions are against ...

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


I think that 70% are their families ...

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

you know when we look on focuses made in Germany ... last time 3 reich is very popular there ... air attacks on German towns were war crimes (without eling anything about air atacks on London or Warszawa) poor expeled Germans who voted on Hitler and after 39 started to kill their neighbors or make servants form them are vicitms ... Poles Jews and Brits provoked poor Germans who were humiliated after WWI ... Poles in their history provoked Germans by doing up rises (what a traitors they wanted to live in Poland not in Germany)

You know this center is supported by gov ... I dont think that they will show in this center how Germans stolen land they were expeled form ... yes expelling people isnt glourious but when we look on fact that 80% of Germans living on this land (the highest level form whole Germany) strongly supported Hitler ... it looks pathetic ... BTW who live in the past who want to discuses about history ... there is one important fact GERMANS HAVENT PAYED any contributions for Poland ... if they want to open this discussion we can start it ... idea of center is supported by Merkel and her gov ...

30% of members of German organisation that want to build this center are former nazists (SS soldiers or members of NSDAP)

Erika Steibach

who is going to be face of this center ... she has very interesting history

Her father was wermaht officer in occupied Poland after 39 (together with German forces) she moved to Poland after WWII expeled ... now is going to build the center with strong gov support ... she is the face of expeled people form Poland ...

what can be interestin Germans were not expelled form Poland after WWI but after WWII

hitlers war against "sub-human" slavs,Russia poland & serbia

The Invasion Of Poland

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

as to Poland it wasnt our decison to change borders ... We were expeled form Lwow and Wilno and this descission was made by Russia UK USA ... so Polish people were expeled in the same way form east ... (succesfuly Russian authoritues havent decided to mix-blood with us )


the fact that Poles in'20s won some up risings agains Germans (because Poles were majority) means that we wanted the war in '39 ... and that is why Germans decided to exterminate our nation ... BB yes Germans were victims of WWII and JEWS POLES BRITS provoked you to start the war ...

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

what is wrong with showing Russians achievments ... all in all it is fact Russians have taken revange (Germans killed 20 mln Russians) ... it is form hisory books ... and they wanted to be sure that next Hitler will not apear (at least) in Eastern Germany ... so they decided to "mix blood" whatever it means ... but maybe you are right it is issue not for PF but German-Russian forum

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

hello falkster


I have to say it ;) (it is just to BB)

what can be interesting ...

Russian authorities decided decided in towns where they could find native German society ... after taking town ... were giving their soldiers week or two to mix-blood with conquered German women ... if you know what I mean ... so here is the result Bratwurst boy ...



as to your Wroclaw as well as I know Russians had good time with "native German" females there ...

Now you know what is the origin of Polish opinion about nowadays "German" nazist form Eastern Germany :) Russians havent done they job properly ... because boneheads like you still exist :( even they are slavs

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


so if you are true German ... it was right you were expeled because it was slavic ground before "large ethnic German population" apeared in XVIII century.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesian_Uprisings


it is Polish land as well.

as to me your ansestors were colaborators or occupators

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


yes yes but hisotry of silesia havent started in XVIII century ... :)


good examples of true Germans

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


I havent called you Polish colaboreutor ... dont play the games ...

you know what is opinon about Germans from silesia in Poland ?

there are two different kinds of Silesians ... one fighting on Polish side durring uprises and second ... you belong to second

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


you dont understand anything

silesians have slavic origin

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

I see that even you are slav ... our authorities have expeled you to your new home land (right decision) ... members of your family were good colaborators ... pfffffffff

piece of SH!T

and now dream about social benefits and safety Hitler and high ways ... and we are going to buy you :)

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


dont wory about that


I have my style and I dont need advices ...

what is important there is part of German society (like BB who is slav and think that he is German ... his ansestors were submissive and becomed Germans maybe it is good ;) Irish have their Unionists and we have BB LOL the truth is that for Poles and for Germans he is piece of Sh!t) who live in the past ... but I think there are other Germans and we can show them positive true ... not like "Poles buy Germany" yes it is true but I dont have any properies there ;) ... but I see it hurts nazi BB so it is nice to tell him about it ;)