Ironside
1 May 2009
Ironside
1 May 2009
History / Taras Bulba - the movie [115]
It was political claim made by nobility but there was a Crown - Kingdom of Poland - and Duchy (Grand Duchy of Lithuania).
So your post is off topic as there nothing about Ukraine.
RON - Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów.
It was political claim made by nobility but there was a Crown - Kingdom of Poland - and Duchy (Grand Duchy of Lithuania).
So your post is off topic as there nothing about Ukraine.
Ironside
1 May 2009
History / Taras Bulba - the movie [115]
Why?
Are you telling me that at the time there was some other state?
A bet it was ukraine, right?
Ironside, you are beyond arrogance
Why?
Are you telling me that at the time there was some other state?
A bet it was ukraine, right?
Ironside
30 Apr 2009
History / Taras Bulba - the movie [115]
At that time and place there was one country called Kingdom of Poland.
Secondly cossacks represented only themselves and no country would tolerate actions of the independent military organizations.
Anyone living at that time and being dissatisfied for whatever reason could allways look for protection and help to that organization - cossacks.
It has nothing to do with being Russian, Rutheanian or whoever .......
Not exactly or, if you want, not at all. Firstly the country was only one at that time and it was Russia. Secondly the cossacks themselves represents the population where the national verge between Russians and Ukrainians was sorta blur and in a way came to naught. They defended one country - the country where they lived.
At that time and place there was one country called Kingdom of Poland.
Secondly cossacks represented only themselves and no country would tolerate actions of the independent military organizations.
Anyone living at that time and being dissatisfied for whatever reason could allways look for protection and help to that organization - cossacks.
It has nothing to do with being Russian, Rutheanian or whoever .......
Ironside
30 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]
Are you Super? pictures pls
We colonised all of the above. We must be Super indeed ;0)
Are you Super? pictures pls
Ironside
29 Apr 2009
Life / Was it a misunderstanding or I was set up for extortion? [8]
Yes it does! If not something more sinister.
So, Krysia, does this sound like it was a scam?
Yes it does! If not something more sinister.
Ironside
29 Apr 2009
Ironside
29 Apr 2009
Life / Wonderful Poland.......but the attitude of Polish people [150]
Sorry I dont buy it.
You firm stoped whatever was doing in Poland due to some jerks you have met,pls.
Sorry I dont buy it.
You firm stoped whatever was doing in Poland due to some jerks you have met,pls.
Ironside
28 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]
It means that you cannot bulid your case on some random word - single one.
It could be many things unlike Poland in 12th century because existence of the such politcal entity is a proven fact.
You dont want to prove anything because you know Im right as to the orgin of the ukrainian name and logic also support my view.
Temper, arrogance and blind stubborness are in your character and I dont hold it against you.
Your ancestors 400 years ago could be Poles for all you know.
As for mooning your ass in front of the enemy is new national tactic or what?good luck!
Its very good that you love your country and I have never said anything against Ukraine or ukrainian nation.
Im only trying to show you that many "facts" thats you belive in are myths.
Like Poland meant "polia" - fields and doesn't prove anything. How many "words" was Poland in the 12th century? I don't prove anything to you. I live and love my country and don't need to prove anything. If I was on the field before you like my anscestors 400 years ago I would do the same - moon my ass to your phalanges and laugh it off. You are like people who surrounded Copernicus in 15th century and couldn't understand the solar system - you need 200 years to realize what is really going on. Arrogance and blind stubborness are some bad characters.
It means that you cannot bulid your case on some random word - single one.
It could be many things unlike Poland in 12th century because existence of the such politcal entity is a proven fact.
You dont want to prove anything because you know Im right as to the orgin of the ukrainian name and logic also support my view.
Temper, arrogance and blind stubborness are in your character and I dont hold it against you.
Your ancestors 400 years ago could be Poles for all you know.
As for mooning your ass in front of the enemy is new national tactic or what?good luck!
Its very good that you love your country and I have never said anything against Ukraine or ukrainian nation.
Im only trying to show you that many "facts" thats you belive in are myths.
Ironside
28 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]
Because today Saxony is part of Germany - simple.
Someone from Burgundy nowdays is considered French but in the past he was Burgundian.
Well, I take it back then, he was a Pole.
Oh, I know theory better then you but because it is theory I dont buy it.
As for "ukraine" is only one word in 1187 and is no sufficient to prove anything.
More likely it inffered from word u kraja - at the edge in the 16th century.
Why does it say that he was a German composer and not Saxon, hm?
Because today Saxony is part of Germany - simple.
Someone from Burgundy nowdays is considered French but in the past he was Burgundian.
You can acknowledge whatever you want and say it to your kids and friends.
Well, I take it back then, he was a Pole.
You have no idea what a nation is. Nation is a body of people who share a common history, culture or ethnic origin who typically inhabit a certain territory.
Oh, I know theory better then you but because it is theory I dont buy it.
As for "ukraine" is only one word in 1187 and is no sufficient to prove anything.
More likely it inffered from word u kraja - at the edge in the 16th century.
Ironside
28 Apr 2009
Ironside
28 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]
any links?
Could you answer my question? Are you hiding something?
thats right , as a modern nations - states.
My point is very easy to understand that before 1848 there wasnt any ukrainian nation at all.
No always nations existed before states were formed sometimes there were state before nations.
Bach was saxon from Saxony.
Mazepa? Jan Kolodynski? according to the times he lived he was a Pole.
I can acknowledge that he was Ruthenian but he wasnt ukrainian.
Copernicus was subject of Polish King therefore he was polish.
Name Ukraine is used already in the Primary Chronicle of 1187 mentioning the death of knyazya Volodymyra z Pereyaslawa. I don't know what is considered the Middle Ages in Poland, but it is accepted that this period comprises 5th-16th centuries.
any links?
Ukrainians are Ukrainians and I don't divide them in east and west. And as well I don't see that big of a difference that will be able to make difference to my thoughts on this forum. Moreover, I don't see the relevance of your question. I don't ask you whether you are from Bialystok or Wroclaw, right?
Could you answer my question? Are you hiding something?
So according to you Germans and Italians started to exist in 19th century?
thats right , as a modern nations - states.
Could you explain the difference here, please?! Agendas? So Germany as a political idea began its existance in 1812 and Ukraine in 1848, so what is your point? Nations existed before states were formed. According to you Bach was French then and Mazepa was Swiss. Cool. And Copernicus?
My point is very easy to understand that before 1848 there wasnt any ukrainian nation at all.
No always nations existed before states were formed sometimes there were state before nations.
Bach was saxon from Saxony.
Mazepa? Jan Kolodynski? according to the times he lived he was a Pole.
I can acknowledge that he was Ruthenian but he wasnt ukrainian.
Copernicus was subject of Polish King therefore he was polish.
Ironside
28 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]
W
As many stated here this thread is nonsense, as many people belive to be superior to some or other - British as well!
So what?
Your assertions are not use because British where in the past and are at the moment leaving Britain for Australia, USA, Canada and New Zealand.Why do you think there is so many english speaking countrys?
No, you obviously belive yourself to be superior, fine, hope you wont brust from all this superiority you hold inside.
I'd give the same advice in Britain.
W
None the less, if the thread starter's assertions are correct then why have so many Poles left Poland over the years? and why did so many, oddly enough, leave for Britain? Why not stay home where everyone is so much better at everything than everyone else?
As many stated here this thread is nonsense, as many people belive to be superior to some or other - British as well!
So what?
Your assertions are not use because British where in the past and are at the moment leaving Britain for Australia, USA, Canada and New Zealand.Why do you think there is so many english speaking countrys?
No, you obviously belive yourself to be superior, fine, hope you wont brust from all this superiority you hold inside.
Ironside
28 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]
The reason I asked because there is difference between western and eastern parts of the present Ukraine state but you know nothing about it do you as you are living in Canada, right?
So you mean to said that you can start claiming to have connections with someone you may or may not have something in common? Just because you say so - fine but dont expect everyone to get along with this idea.
As for Germans and Italians it all started with one country taking over others countrys which they belived to be one nation according to 18/19th century ideas.
Germany became one state in 1871, Italy in 1867 but idea behind it was around since early 1812- 48.
As for names of those countrys there were around since middle ages contrary to the name - Ukraine.
So idea of ukrainian as a nations is modern, not determined before 1848 and there was two separate currents with different agendas, purposes and religions.
Wishfull thinking is not enough for you to be taken seriously a bit of knowlege would be welcome.
I don't live in places "what used to be", I live in Ukraine. I hope the same about you that you don't live in a place that used to be.
The reason I asked because there is difference between western and eastern parts of the present Ukraine state but you know nothing about it do you as you are living in Canada, right?
Basically I wanted to say that you can't start your history with 1848 no matter who you are. I don't care how people used to call themselves 200 years ago. For me Cossacks and peasants and Ruthenian nobility are Ukrainians, for Germans - people of that time will be Germans and so on. Germany and Italy didn't exist as such in 18th century, but whoever lived there at that time are considered Germans and Italians nowadays.
So you mean to said that you can start claiming to have connections with someone you may or may not have something in common? Just because you say so - fine but dont expect everyone to get along with this idea.
As for Germans and Italians it all started with one country taking over others countrys which they belived to be one nation according to 18/19th century ideas.
Germany became one state in 1871, Italy in 1867 but idea behind it was around since early 1812- 48.
As for names of those countrys there were around since middle ages contrary to the name - Ukraine.
So idea of ukrainian as a nations is modern, not determined before 1848 and there was two separate currents with different agendas, purposes and religions.
Wishfull thinking is not enough for you to be taken seriously a bit of knowlege would be welcome.
Ironside
27 Apr 2009
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]
Well nice way of presenting your view ] I sorry that at the same time you showed yourself to be a dull arse.
maybe one where he's not giving a heil hitler style salute......:)
Well nice way of presenting your view ] I sorry that at the same time you showed yourself to be a dull arse.
Ironside
27 Apr 2009
Love / Polish girls' obsession with marriage [124]
well, nice family you got yourself into ......
Im lost for words
Well the abuse the turned to insults of me and my driving the child was screaming at this stage, in the middle of o'connell street i just jumped out of the car walked around opened her door and pulled her out.
well, nice family you got yourself into ......
Im lost for words
Ironside
27 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]
I don't understand what you wanted to say, Nathan. Please, explain.
I asked are you living what used to be Poland before IIwar or east.
There was no Germany and Germans, no Poland or Polish as well, but we consider them part of our own history, right? You have to start somewhere and also see the tendencies of those times and ideas that these people defended, their culture, language, religion, even soul.
I don't understand what you wanted to say, Nathan. Please, explain.
I don't understand what you wanted to say, Ironside. Please, explain.
I asked are you living what used to be Poland before IIwar or east.
Ironside
27 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]
You can find better bread in Poland - try bakery.
Good1 thank you for make me laugh.
fairy tale storys then - are they common in your country?
by the way east or west you living
When is the key but if you talking about times before 1848 there wasnt ukraine or ukrainias and thats the history man not some nationalistic dreams.
Good point about the bread. After 1 day, it's almost stale here. I prefer British bread as it lasts longer. I don't mind that some preservatives are in it.
You can find better bread in Poland - try bakery.
Regarding colonisation, if you remember correctly this little island had been invated and colonised a few times, you do remember the Romans, the Saxons and the Normas? I suppose we just made the best of it and were destined to be Great, which in itself says that we are in fact superior!
Good1 thank you for make me laugh.
If it were comics, you would know about it.
fairy tale storys then - are they common in your country?
by the way east or west you living
Listen, I am not going to compare who did most damage Russia or Poland, both countries were oppressors and colonists. Polonius 3 was saying that you fought for freedom of others to defend your own. Is it a joke or you are talking about Kosciuszko again who fought on American continent? When did you fight for Ukraine's freedom? Ukraine fought against Poland and Russia for its freedom.
When is the key but if you talking about times before 1848 there wasnt ukraine or ukrainias and thats the history man not some nationalistic dreams.
Ironside
27 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]
comic books more likely
Yeh, I have nothing else to do. It is history, man.
comic books more likely
Ironside
27 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]
You have rised interesting question by whom should we evaluate nations?
Ruling class or criminals?
One might ask and one might think whatever like but better still one might do some inguiry.
You have rised interesting question by whom should we evaluate nations?
Ruling class or criminals?
If the conversation is going to focus on 'colonialism', one might ask exactly how Poland got to be the biggest force in Europe at one point (reaching upto Estonia, I believe). Somehow I don't think it was because all these little groups and tribes were rushing to join the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth without a bit of coercion.
One might ask and one might think whatever like but better still one might do some inguiry.
Ironside
26 Apr 2009
Ironside
26 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]
Well, nice set of cheap propaganda and pure nosense, outright bulls**t.
And what it has to do with 1930s?
I just wonder did you come up with this idiots food yourself ...
Well, nice set of cheap propaganda and pure nosense, outright bulls**t.
And what it has to do with 1930s?
I just wonder did you come up with this idiots food yourself ...
Ironside
26 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]
About ukraine its simply not true, as for farmers we ripped them off so bad that farmers from neighboring countrys fled to Poland to be ripped off I guess.
As for farmers in Isles there was at a time no farmers but tennats and were ripped off but in different way.
There always poor being ripped off by the rich what is different is standart of living and the way ripping off is done.
This thread is nonsense anyway ....
You occupied a large area of Ukraine, treated the farmers like cr-p and ripped them off, .
About ukraine its simply not true, as for farmers we ripped them off so bad that farmers from neighboring countrys fled to Poland to be ripped off I guess.
As for farmers in Isles there was at a time no farmers but tennats and were ripped off but in different way.
There always poor being ripped off by the rich what is different is standart of living and the way ripping off is done.
This thread is nonsense anyway ....
Ironside
26 Apr 2009
News / Kaliningrad. Problem, Threat or Opportunity for Poland? [185]
Well, why dont you wake up then?
being on drugs all the time is not good for your health, dude.
Anyway you have got huge territory but have no brains to develop it, dude.
Bull§hit! I am not dreaming, though I am 100+% Russian. What I am dreaming is just uniting Europe under the Russian sway.
Well, why dont you wake up then?
being on drugs all the time is not good for your health, dude.
Anyway you have got huge territory but have no brains to develop it, dude.
Ironside
26 Apr 2009
News / Kaliningrad. Problem, Threat or Opportunity for Poland? [185]
thats all ?
you have president too, dude!
Poles&brains? Are you joking dude? You don't need them, you have you president, it's enough.
thats all ?
you have president too, dude!
Ironside
25 Apr 2009
News / Kaliningrad. Problem, Threat or Opportunity for Poland? [185]
Oh put sock on it
First you exterminate 2/3 of polish ruling class which constituted brain and then you subjected Poland to 40years of occupation.
And now you keep spiting your petty moans all over this forum
well why dont you kiss your own ass
The problem is that everybody promises Poland something, but still there was no such stupid who would keep his promises. She remind me honest provincial simpleton who gives in to the first comer in vain attempt to get married and to move in the city.
Oh put sock on it
First you exterminate 2/3 of polish ruling class which constituted brain and then you subjected Poland to 40years of occupation.
And now you keep spiting your petty moans all over this forum
well why dont you kiss your own ass
Ironside
22 Apr 2009
Love / I'm pregnant by my Polish boyfriend but he wants me to abort it! [132]
Whats wrong with you people are you mental?nutters?
quote=sapphire]
In the meantime cut the tosser out of your life right now.. get hold of his phone and text everyone he knows to let them know what an ******* he is.. especially contact the girl and the parents.[/quote]
Now thats something to consider.
smearing fresh chillies in his duds it will bring a tear to his eye and a smile to your face...tried and tested...
hahahahaha and still loughing
Not a bad idea...the chilli thing works a treat though and she can go wild and wipe it on the soap too..that's also highly entertaining to watch..
Better off getting a really hot sauce (357 Mad Dog or Blair's Megadeath will do nicely) and putting it inside a condom. Then offer him a 'last break-up shag'.
Whats wrong with you people are you mental?nutters?
quote=sapphire]
In the meantime cut the tosser out of your life right now.. get hold of his phone and text everyone he knows to let them know what an ******* he is.. especially contact the girl and the parents.[/quote]
Now thats something to consider.
Ironside
22 Apr 2009
History / MONSTERS AND DRAGONS OF POLAND...are there any...? [42]
Your girl? Good for You?
yep, look here Halina from Mikolajki
Your girl? Good for You?
Ironside
21 Apr 2009
News / Racist text book for Polish schools [130]
And words of one person is more that enough for you to feel justified to make sweeping statements.
It is nothing more than a logical inferrence from a much more tolerant and evolved person's words "herds of immigrants with 7th century value".
And words of one person is more that enough for you to feel justified to make sweeping statements.
Ironside
21 Apr 2009
News / Racist text book for Polish schools [130]
Im sure you are a very tolerant and evolved person as you showed for all to see and admire in your posters.
Aha, we didn't realise Poland is ahead of the herds by 14 centuries only! Darwin says it should take longer than that to evolve. Only 14 centuries, those living in Poland must also be herds only today?
Im sure you are a very tolerant and evolved person as you showed for all to see and admire in your posters.