Love / Please I need advice. Are Polish Girls and Poland Westernizing for the worse? [16]

dear thread starter

look yourself in the mirror and give your head a shake.

A woman in a relationship with you will become what you allow her to be and vice versa. You think all the american women having done gone all out of whack with entitlement has nothin to do with men becoming all understanding and estrogenized?

And
If you think you're gonna bring back some wholesome country, prettier than a peach lass to the u.s. and not have to crack down hard on every johnny come lately tryin to squeeze in on your lady and this not affecting how she views herself, you and you two together then i have some bad news for you.

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


i'm going to assume the part i quoted above was not in reference to me or what i wrote as i can't see how i what i wrote could be construed as anything except a rhetorical question. ok?

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]

The Obvious troll is obvious.
None the less, if the thread starter's assertions are correct then why have so many Poles left Poland over the years? and why did so many, oddly enough, leave for Britain? Why not stay home where everyone is so much better at everything than everyone else?

But here I am feeding the obvious troll, aren't i?

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

So as I understand pauls' point, unless he thinks what the Chinese did then was wrong, it was ok for the Chinese to protect their way of life then but for people in Poland that would be wrong. Is anyone else getting the same logic from his posts?

This statement:


does not compute with:

pauls, I'm refering you back to what I posted on page 20 post #787, if you can provide some argument that is logical and devoid of slander then I look forward to your response.

News / THOUSANDS OF YOUNG ISRAELIS FLOODING POLAND [93]


not that i disagree with your post #47 (because i thought it was very insightful) but you really can't use depicted events in a hollywood movie as historical reference, can you?

And i'd just like to say that while i like the persona's of both Harry and z_dariusz I did enjoy the thorough dismantling by mr. z on page 1.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


seems you were a bit selective there in choosing the words you wanted to summarize his argument with. see some irony in your use of the word "honest?" nah, it's probably over your head.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

You multicultural mantra gibbering fools will no doubt dismiss the following out of hand with some pathetic deflection. I await the inevitable with glee:

The downside of diversity
A Harvard political scientist finds that diversity hurts civic life. What happens when a liberal scholar unearths an inconvenient truth?

"But a massive new study, based on detailed interviews of nearly 30,000 people across America, has concluded just the opposite. Harvard political scientist Robert Putnam -- famous for "Bowling Alone," his 2000 book on declining civic engagement -- has found that the greater the diversity in a community, the fewer people vote and the less they volunteer, the less they give to charity and work on community projects. In the most diverse communities, neighbors trust one another about half as much as they do in the most homogenous settings. The study, the largest ever on civic engagement in America, found that virtually all measures of civic health are lower in more diverse settings"

boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

^^^yes and no, if you look at what the Greek (european) philosophers and scientists were up to along with their counterparts from africa and the the m.east then no, Europeans 2500 years ago actually were waaaaaay ahead of their counterparts for the better of that time. How their discoveries/intuitive reasonings of air pressure, the cosmos and evolution escaped much of the time which followed them is a blight on humanity.

enjoy your helping of the truth? I thought so.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


whoops, i forgot to respond. Y'know i was just about to agree with you but then it dawned on me that the merits are for a society to agree on. If a system which fairly assessed immigrantion based on the needs of a given society were to be implemented then it would be fair for that society.


Again although i agree with you on how the system would probably end up being corrupted, that in itself is more of a criticism of those who might implement a system, not the system.

*edited*

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


A lot of things fail to work in practice but this seems more to do with us being people and prone to cocking things up. I fail to see your point.


to answer your question you must answer whether you view what an individual like that brings to the table as a merit or not- you tell me.


This assumes a position which i simply don't subscribe to. I don't think one should be admitted as an immigrant unless it's determined they have merits, a lot like how Polish policies are within Poland. If that were the case then this would all be moot.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


interpret it however you want, that's on you not me. Meritocracy is the way to go and it's only foolishness that would prevent anyone from recognizing that. Social opportunity, pffft, what's that even supposed to mean (within the framework of a MC/immigration discussion)?


and if they want the rest of us to sacrifice for their choice then what?
Now if you'll excuse me, i'm off to purchase a summer scarf. And no, it's not for me, i'm not that light in the loafers.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


and those who subscribe to it pay homage to a false god.


but as you alluded to the bad of the current system seems to outweigh the good by a very large margin:



i thought japan was doing something similar, enlighten me. I'll be back tomorrow though it's gettin too late for this... still though, I have to disagree, social opportunity is b.s.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Sorry Seanus but he hauled out the b.s. like social opportunity and other liberal fairied terms on a flatbed and used it to fertilize a large plot of the correct.

It was poor reading comprehension which resulted in misinterpretation of his words of wisdom. Yoshi pointed to what works and makes sense, MC doesn't have to play into meritocracy. He nailed it and it's up to us to recognize the greatness that is post #658.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


no way dude, those quotes are unaltered. You won't call anyone racist names but you are quick to call others racists. This isn't an accusation, just a record of your posts for you to read into what you will.

My question:


Your answer:


What are you getting at sir? I can't make any sense of your response. Again I ask you, why should being a minority be virtuous?


Sorry if this bothers you my good man but your whole position was based on using the past for context so I offered you a little more context sorry if that is difficult to take on board.


Can a society be multicultural then and be comprised of one ethnicity or one race? Don't gimme that b.s., the two are inextricably connected in today's world.


Dude there's intolerance everywhere and it's the most natural thing in the world. Being less tolerant and accepting of others who are less closely connected ethnically, racially or genetically is the most natural thing in the world. Maybe there's something we can do to fix that these tendencies have been with the human race since forever, so somehow I doubt massive immigration will do anything that hasn't happened before.

Possibly offending analogy (if you subscribe to the idea we aren't animals):
We're different breeds of the same species, kinda like how Alsatians are different than Dobermans, Rottweilers are different than Cane Corsos, etc. Imagine you have a bunch of Afghan wolfhounds raised a certain way, in a certain climate (let's say in afghanistan) and suddenly threw them in with some border collies on a scottish farm how do ya think that would go? Or throw a bunch of chimps onto borneo and see how them and orangutans get on. We're a lot simpler than we like to think.

Now go back and read POST #658 OF THIS THREAD. He nailed it!

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


to the best of my knowledge, no one was intending to do that on this thread. correct me if i'm wrong.



but not call anyone racist:)
I don't get it, you say you defend anyone who is a minority but I'm wondering how you've come to such a position. Why should being a minority be virtuous, i'm convinced there's nothing inherently noble about it.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


F4 sees what you did there. Well played sir, well played.
But...
slave (n.) Look up slave at Dictionary.com
c.1290, "person who is the property of another," from O.Fr. esclave, from M.L. Sclavus "slave" (cf. It. schiavo, Fr. esclave, Sp. esclavo), originally "Slav" (see Slav), so called because of the many Slavs sold into slavery by conquering peoples.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]




You see what i did there?
Although i do agree with some of your sentiments, don't play the "it's whitey's fault" card. Yeah European Colonists weren't exactly saints. Go build your time machine and deal with the perpetrators don't go slamming Poles. Or do you just lash out at anyone who you think might be white and figure everyone of "them" is to blame.

Ever notice the connection between the words "slave" and "slavic?" Think there might be one? Maybe a Polish forum isn't the best place to start leveling accusations.

Go reread post #658 on this thread and recognize the correct when it emigrates to your conscience mind.

Have a nice day.

Work / I have a "zero" chance to succeed in Poland - I do not have a degree! [93]

is the discussion about Poland now or Poland then and are the two concepts divisable?
I love how on this forum everything turns into a slagging match. Can't we just agree that the system here has flaws but it's still better than other places in some respects. Or


Maybe he had been concerned with the runts of English cultural history or maybe he just didn't want to talk about it with you, ever think of that?

yeah i'm just posting crap here aren't i?
Well back to the quarreling then...

Life / Damn proud of being (half) Polish [77]


now where did you get that from i wonder? i'm not sure that's the best way to express the difference either. don't get me wrong, i don't know the best way but somehow i think there's more to it than that.

Work / Any non-shafty English schools in Poland to work as an English native speaker? [36]



excellent prediction.
anyway, take option 2 then or choose something entirely different but do something.
Maybe look at it like this: If a thief took something from you, you'd want to take it back. If a thief tried to take something from you, you wouldn't willingly give it, especially if you knew where that thief was vulnerable. I look at these kind of operations as thieves.

Work / Any non-shafty English schools in Poland to work as an English native speaker? [36]

hence finding someone who knows what they're doing. Seriously when dealing with a criminal/crooked employer you either have to take one of two routes both of which i advocate depending on resources.

Work / Any non-shafty English schools in Poland to work as an English native speaker? [36]


I am completely serious when i write this. You need to find someone willing and able and who knows what they're doing and simply use violence or the very real threat of it. Or start gathering papers and find a contact at a tax office then play your cards that way. Either way this group will bully you until you give them the horns.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


good question but i'd be willing to bet you could go to a few places in this blue planet and not really think to highly of the culture you find there- pun intended. But that'd be quite subjective, in a sense i agree with the spirit of your question but i think it's answerabe albeit subjectively.


to be fair, the majority culture in n.a. is not native to it. I get what you're saying but anglo-european culture is an import that took over. Funny how migration can't be stopped.

Life / nice polish name for a girl [38]

^does it matter at this point?

Life / nice polish name for a girl [38]

I've been partial to Lydia for some time.

Love / What is the best car to impress a Polish girl? [60]

Can't say i've ever put much stock in the car a woman drives, odd that i never noticed i couldn't care less until you put that one out there.

News / More and more jobs moving to Poland from other parts of Europe... [50]

this actually fits in pretty neatly to help explain the further disproportionate growth of the poor as compared to the shrinking of the middle class.

News / More and more jobs moving to Poland from other parts of Europe... [50]


i fail to see where i asked you to explain anything but if this was your understanding then i am now enlightened as to why we're agreeing with each other in extensive fashion. To be honest i hadn't thought about the fact that the company loses out due to a shrinking market. I wonder if the margins saved on salary outweigh the margins lost on sales.

News / More and more jobs moving to Poland from other parts of Europe... [50]

yeah i see what you wrote but it reads a lot like a more detailed rendition of what i had alluded to. All countries (and by countries, i mean people) lose in the situation you've described. The only winners are the execs.

I'll make my addition to the obvious:
The poor worker in Sri Lanka isn't in any elevated social status, the wage he isn't earning as compared to what a unionized worker would get are just bigger earnings for the "company." And other than the stock holders and execs, who else is the company?

Coles notes version:
Worker abroad-exploited
Unionized work-fired
So who wins?

News / More and more jobs moving to Poland from other parts of Europe... [50]

i'm more inclined to believe those "countries" actually do as much losing out as in countries where workers enjoy representation. Now, if you mean companies win in the end by exploiting workers where ever they are able then I'd agree with those sentiments. Countries (and by countries i mean the people in them) lose out more and more globally to the whims of multi-national execs and their cronies.