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24 Sep 2008
News / New Polish Euro Coins [65]

If you don't adopt the euro,the zloty will sink.Europeans will not give you money to support the zloty against their currency!

There is nothing for free. Money should be earned! Everything else is demagogy.
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23 Sep 2008
News / Eat fish you idiot! (EU massive media campaign in Poland) [54]

That's great news. Four times more jobs in the sector than before!

Four times more people trying to justify their usefulness to save posts. To achieve this goal they need to create more and more regulations which create obstacles and difficulties for the rest of the society. While the latter group is much bigger then I would rather think how many of them is unemployed. Because of bureaucratic dirty job plenty of people cannot "spread their wings", plenty of them is unemployed and plenty of them work in the 'grey zone'. All of them are cheated by bureaucrat invented pension system. The number of jobs hold by bureaucrats mean nothing in comparison with problems that this small group create for the rest.

Beside of that additional job are positive for the society only if such job is useful , bureaucrats are not only not useful but an opposite. If the government would hold 100k of blacksmiths employed in public sector then those people would not be useful either. They would receive some wages but they could not be pain on the ass of the rest of the society. Thus if 100k of bureaucrats would be fired and 100k of blacksmiths would be employed instead then this would be great improvement.

Jaruzelski made a lot of speeches. I wouldn't put much weight on what he has to say. This particular parasite is history.

I disagree with him on the issue of martial law, however this is not a secret that from economical point of view the last 'communist' government was much better than every 'democratic' later.

No difference in PRL.
The point is that fishy stuff was there before EU and therefore nagging against EU based on some fishy stories is funny. A lot of nagging against it can be justified without resorting to the same stinky food that commies advertised as fgood for you.

Don't you understand that I'm against both communism and euro-socialism? If they made the same stupidities, this does not matter. This should be finally stopped. Well, honestly I cannot recall such propaganda campaign after 1989 (for sure nothing on this scale). This is Brussels influence that cause this comeback.

I personally have nothing against fish. This is socialist policy that I oppose, because it lead the society to retardation. Politicians try to make people depend from them, their advises while advices may easily turn into orders or at least action in prevention (the EU banning imports of some certain food). All of this together targeting our pockets while advantages are none. I don't need the government telling me what I should eat and drink. This is trivial issue, however this illustrate the logic behind actions of the ruling establishment. They can easily switch their 'help' to other part of out life.
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23 Sep 2008
News / Eat fish you idiot! (EU massive media campaign in Poland) [54]

but the past shows things can get fishy with or without EU.

I really don't want to replace euro-socialism for communism. :)

show me the stats then

Read this article, author refers to original sources (Roczniki). I will just add that when Prodi was a chief of EU-Commission he said that Poland need to employ 100k more bureaucrats. Also Polish institute of Adam Smith published some time ago some report (?) that we have four time more bureaucrats than in 1989. (I cannot find it now) What is interesting I found Jaruzelski website with his speech where he claim that we have three times more bureaucrats than in 1989 and those additional are parasites. Apparently we need Jaruzelski back :)

I'm not sure what you tried to say here.

Paper is much cheaper than intensive TV and radio adverts.
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22 Sep 2008
UK, Ireland / EU Elections June 2009, will Poles in UK vote? Will others vote? [29]

Better for who ?

For everybody. Every each of us should honestly consider whether have proper knowledge to make responsible decision. If amount of knowledge is too poor then such person should start learning process and maybe try the next time. If such person is aware of its own laziness then at least should leave decision to others. When choosing such option such person saving "the minimal level" of responsibility.

One of the reasons why we just go from Labour Governments to Conservative Governments and back again is that people don't take their right to vote seriously enough.

This is wishful thinking on your side my friend. :)

Where is the "personal freedom" in sitting on the sofa, eating pizza and refusing to vote and then moaning about the decisions taken after an election someone wouldn't vote in ?

Here you label all those who don't vote. Anyway, this is essence of personal freedom that individuals also can act unwise and later face consequences of their behavior.

So you're saying most people are too thick to make an informed decision ?

Most of people did absolutely nothing to learn about political system in their own country. Responsible voter should know some basics of economy, political systems (internal policy) and foreign policy. Because knowledge don't fall from the blue sky, some effort is needed. Some books must be read, serious newspapers studied from time to time.

Democracy don't need voters lead by emotions instead knowledge. Also people should think whether this is something more behind their stand except megalomania and arrogance.

Yes very true, although the "Heat magazine / Big Brother" generation are their children and grandchildren, so why didn't they do a better job of passing on their values ?

This is not problem with generation, this is not a problem at all. This is duo to their young age, they are not ready yet. You cannot fight with the wind.
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22 Sep 2008
News / New Polish Euro Coins [65]

Some logical reasoning for people who don't know what to think about Euro issue.

If always lying politicians are unable to find one good argument in favor of Euro then something is seriously wrong. Usually they don't have any problems with promises. This leads to the conclusion that they are 100% sure that we have nothing to gain here. What is more they shake their asses because experiences of other states which joined Euro-zone were not story of success. So, if we have nothing to gain then who need unnecessary risk? In the name of ideology? That is really weak reason...

What is more, perhaps some of you remember how many times Polish politicians praised Zloty to be so good currency?
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22 Sep 2008
News / Eat fish you idiot! (EU massive media campaign in Poland) [54]

On friday we had this road sensors thing where some volunteers accompanied by the police were stopping cars in the rush hour (!) to hand them bits of paper where you had to fill in why you were on that road at the time, what time did you leave, how many people were in the car, how much income does your household make etc. WHY?!

"Everything for the State; nothing outside the State; nothing against the State,"Benito Mussolini

I like spending weekend in my country house gathering mushrooms

A lot of people in Poland have such hobby, me included.

I think you're looking for a problem where there isn't one.

In the 70's, long before even the bravest minds would dream about Poland in EU, Polish ministries of health and education distributed free bookmarks distributed to all kids. The Bookmarks had a picture if fish on it and the writing said:

I care less what was practiced in the past. As a taxpayer I demand lower taxes and wise spending.

If you wanted to proof that bureaucracy in communist Poland was much smaller, indeed this is true, statistics don't lie.

If you wanted to proof that commies wasted less taxpayer money on the same cause then indeed this is true.
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21 Sep 2008
UK, Ireland / EU Elections June 2009, will Poles in UK vote? Will others vote? [29]

Everyone should vote

You have the right to vote and you have the right to stay at home as well. Often the second solution is better.

Unless there are very good reasons, people who don't vote should be fined.

This would be move towards fascism, against personal freedom.

I think 100% turn-out and voters actually thinking about the candidates on offer would change the political landscape a great deal.

Yeah just in the wrong direction, more ignorant voters would allow politicians to be more populist. Why would they bother to convince those who know something if the number of politically illiterate people would be so big?

it's the older generation that are more inclined to come out and vote,

This is because they are mature, when young will grow up then they will come to vote in similar numbers as well.
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21 Sep 2008
News / Eat fish you idiot! (EU massive media campaign in Poland) [54]

Canada publishes a food guide that recommends the following:

Yeah, Canada have bad socialist reputation. If they do it in the internet only then at least cost is lesser.

Anyway isn't EU as a whole rather net importer of fish ? I'm too lazy to check that but I would be very surprised If Poland had positive balance in foreign trade of these things... I see here Panga and other exotic kinds more often than local fish. So of course the whole idea of advertising (for public money) eating more fish is idiotic but a fact that If anything It may only make people eat more of Asian Panga makes It totally moronic.

In the EU there is hardly any logic. Most likely bureaucrats don't waste an opportunity to accept bribes from Asians.
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20 Sep 2008
News / Eat fish you idiot! (EU massive media campaign in Poland) [54]

I also don't mind eating fish, this is not the point. How did you start eating fish without help from EU bureaucracy?

Salmon in Poland is expensive as well, import barriers working very well but that is something that the EU doesn't care.
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20 Sep 2008
News / Eat fish you idiot! (EU massive media campaign in Poland) [54]

I'm really tired with the EU massive media campaign telling us to eat fish... I used to listen to radio stations at work but slowly I'm losing my nerve because every five minute they molesting me with their fish. I don't really watch TV, however already noticed TV adverts as well. Those EU-bureaucrats again wasting millions of taxpayers cash and what is more treat people like mentally retarded.

Anyway what is the sense of such action in a country where local Catholic church established long time ago such tradition to not eat meat in Fridays. Plenty of people eat fish instead.

I must write that this campaign is supposed to be the EU help to fishery. I ask how many people here did not heard that EU regulations ruining Polish (and not only Polish) fishery? Iceland even resigned from membership only to escape from EU bureaucracy controlling fishery.

This is clearly disgusting propaganda which have nothing to do with the EU role in this industry. People are targeted from all directions how great and helpful EU-bureaucrats are but they never provide any details. What is irritating, this farce is sponsored by European taxpayers.

I'm just curious whether this campaign is run in other member states or Poland is so very special...
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20 Sep 2008
UK, Ireland / EU Elections June 2009, will Poles in UK vote? Will others vote? [29]

As she is not here to speak for herself, we can only speculate her reasons for moving to the UK, but I would guess, she did it to find work, not study politics. I'm sure her main priorities was finding a job and somewhere to live.

This is not my intention to speculate why she moved to the UK. I really don't care.

The fact that she asked a question, shows she wanted information, but was unaware where she could get that information from. She made the effort, all she needed was better support and access to information.

People who are unable to find basic information should not pretend that they can co-decide about fate of countries.

According to you're logic, only people with an intense interest in politics, has the right to choose who governs the country and introduce policies that effect all residents of that country.

I can easily reverse your claims. You want people who don't have proper knowledge to decide about fate of all others, including those politically aware. I don't think that marginalizing the best part of the society is a good idea. This is particular interest of those who don't know, either to learn or let those with proper knowledge to run the state.

I'm sure the people running the country now have a certain level of interest in politics, although I would even question that with some that are in power,but that doesn't always make them fit to run the country.

Politically literate voter doesn't need to be good politician. These are two different things.
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20 Sep 2008
UK, Ireland / EU Elections June 2009, will Poles in UK vote? Will others vote? [29]

I'm sitting in Poland with no intention to emigrate and somehow I know basic about politics in many European states. While she decided to emigrate to the UK and did not even bother to learn about British politics. However what is really scandalous is the fact that despite this she went to vote. Information are available for everybody interested. I doubt whether she have any clue about Polish politics as well.
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20 Sep 2008
UK, Ireland / EU Elections June 2009, will Poles in UK vote? Will others vote? [29]

Everyone has the right to vote, wouldn't it be better to offer better resources to people, to help them make good use of their vote and be a well informed voter, than to take away that right?

I don't question democratic decision process here. All I demand from a voter is responsibility. How could she make responsible decision if she was not aware who is in the ballot and what options are represented?

In Switzerland they have many referendums about many issues and those voters who feel ignorant about some certain issues (or not interested) simply stay at home. Thus attendance is always different.

If somebody want to be well informed, he will be even despite massive propaganda targeting him. The problem is that some are not willing to learn and still vote.
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20 Sep 2008
UK, Ireland / EU Elections June 2009, will Poles in UK vote? Will others vote? [29]

Unfortunately, we are not permitted to give advice or appear to influence voters in anyway, so I was unable to tell her it was UKIP, all I could do, was suggest she go to the library and read all the election leaflets and come back and vote later.

The UKIP is a single issue party, they demand Britain to leave the EU. I posted here few good speeches of Nigel Farage who is their EU-parliamentary leader and he sounds like a freedom minded person. Recently "Rzeczpospolita" daily published an

nczas.com/wazne/polska-i-wielka-brytania-powinny-opuscic-unie - interview with him and he confirmed my opinion. Nothing anti-Polish about the UKIP. I suspect that you may confuse them with BNP, they might be more united about immigration issues. I would wish Polish people in the UK vote for the UKIP.

I noticed a few Polish names on my list registered to vote, but only one Polish girl did come in to vote......... she asked the question "who is the party that hates us, cos I'm not voting for them"

This is a typical example of politically ignorant voter who is showing up to vote anyway. If one doesn't follow politics, then should stay at home instead voting for something unknown. Such people do only harm to their countries.
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19 Sep 2008
News / Poland's Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners [324]

So it cannot be so good there as if German and US concerns would have given their help to Vietnam as they do it in Poland.

Foreign companies just do business and care about their own interest. This is good, because both sides gain profits if they cooperate. This is mistake to use the word 'help' in this case.

Poles can be really happy because of the German help, and Angela Merkel is their Angle.

The same again... While Merkel is not even good leader for Germany.
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19 Sep 2008
News / New Polish Euro Coins [65]

Our stupid politicians cannot find even one argument in favor of Euro. This is everything about ideology and willingness of EU-bureaucracy to build utopian EU-state.
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19 Sep 2008
News / New Polish Euro Coins [65]

polishforums.com/user_files/avatars/7826.mbb?133419
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19 Sep 2008
News / Poland's Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners [324]

are you completely dismissing the extent to which foreign powers have interfered in much of what is the 3rd world today?

I think about the future, rather than about the past. Past is useful only to avoid the same mistakes in the future.

You really think Vietnam and Cambodia would be the mess they are now had the way for anarchy not been paved by foreign intervention?

Maybe they would do better, maybe not. I oppose any attempts of Polish state interventions aboard. Unless some state would be a direct threat to us (Nothing like this is likely to happen in near future). I don't think that such interventions have much of sense. Usually there is always some agenda which make profits out of this.

I think that your reply is hardly related to my post.

Not all are born with capabilities of being a brain surgens.

Unskilled workers are needed as well. Even if they would do the things that they don't really understand.

thus this creates a problem in European countries with unemployment.

I'm not aware of serious problems with unemployment in the UK. Why do you complain, in advance? Only really socialist states have such problems, they can blame only themselves.

I think Europeans countries should rely less on cheap imports and more on home grown.

You are advocating as Ayn Rand would say 'the return to the primitive'.
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18 Sep 2008
News / Poland's Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners [324]

good question, and then what happens to it? How is it spent? Does all the promised money actually find its' way there? and should that money be handed over by tax payers? It's like the taxpayer foots the bill but who reaps the rewards?

A quarter is stolen by European bureaucrats,the rest by local caciques. European countries only make thing worse, those people in third world countries should learn how to resolve problems on their own. All responsibility should be on their arms. They need a lot of time to reach standards of the western world. They can do it only by their own effort.

How many jobs from the West have been lost because call centres have been transferred to developing countries because the costs are lower - how about the export market in India for textiiles / clothing, jewellery ect.

This is called 'progress'. Advanced countries should be concentrated on the higher technologies. This is a scandal that the EU subsided so long European farmers. Those euro-lefties work always against progress. Food production, this is ideal job for undeveloped countries. While we in Europe would stop wasting our time 'collecting potatoes' and buy cheap imported food. While third world countries would have an opportunity to reduce poverty supplying European markets.
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10 Sep 2008
News / Poland ends conscription. [11]

Some how I think that you are talking sh1t...

Somehow this is the only answer you have got and nobody else deny.
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10 Sep 2008
News / Poland ends conscription. [11]

What's the deal re national service in Poland?

They regularly training cleaning service personnel.
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10 Sep 2008
News / Poland ends conscription. [11]

Finally, this is one and only liberal minded decision of this supposed to be 'liberal' government. The rest is disgrace.
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7 Sep 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

Monarchies in Europe were somehow abolished. They also conditioned people to serve their purposes.

Today's political establishment in Europe also conditioning people to accept their doubtful version democracy and Swiss model is never ever mentioned in schools. We don't have the right to interfere in internal affairs of this country, we can just comment and discuss.
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7 Sep 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

Hmm...only because they are suppressed.

However majority of Russians seems to like them being politically suppressed. This is old dilemma of democracy, whether to respect decision of majority rejecting democracy.