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SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

to notice the word "believe". We are talking about faith here not knowledge.

And so this is the only way this conversation could go.

I think "blind faith" and/or belief should be questioned but that is another conversation and will only lead right back to your last quote, so that's it, I think.

Logically, and considering the laws of the universe

I have tried to read quite a bit about these and more theories, the 11 dimensions, time itself is a difficult enough concept for me, a good book is Wrinkles in Time and the scientific observations that time is different at the top of a mountain and in the earth's crust and it even depends on what speed you are travelling, well it is a mine field but I like wrecking my head some times.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
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Unlike God, who is eternal and not created, which is only common sense considering
that it was Him who created the universe

I was going to talk about multi-verses and fractals and time/space but I see there is a much more pressing matter.
That is not common sence, you are throwing logic completely out the window.
Why are you so so so willing to believe that your God has always existed but hydrogen (for a good example) could only be created?.

You did put a smile face, which right now could mean anything :)

SeanBM

Catholic church said that there is no conflict between evolution and the doctrine
of faith and I agree with it.

From your own link, Sean:

I must have misinterpreted these words, i thought you thought you were showing me something.

Bill Hicks

Great comedian, I know the part but not that well.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
Travel / Walks up the Beskids mountains [44]

Chełm overlooking Myslenice.

First photo is of the ski slope and in the distance Myslenice.

Second photo is a close up of the first showing the main town church and market square of Myslenice.

And the last is of some of the wonderful forest on the walk up, it is only about an hour and a half walk up to the top from the market square and there is a pub restaurant at the top.

There is also a working ski lift that you can take up, it takes about 20 minutes, many people take their mountain bikes up on these and some how avoid the trees on the way down.

There were a lot of bugs today but an enjoyable walk non the less.


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SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

Even the Catholic church has excepted it Torq.

That quote there, was before your reply and i gave you that link so you would see it for yourself.

I am glad you read it all the same even if you are insinuating somthing else about what I said.

No, the people who believe that dinosour bones put there to test one's faith were put there to test my faith.

That made me laugh.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

Wow!, really, you guys don't understand evolution?.
Even the Catholic church has excepted it Torq.
Wow, this really puts into perspective who I am talking to.
So how old is the Earth lads?, were dinosour bones put there to test your faith?.
Ah, come on now, youz are pulling my leg, no?.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_and_the_Roman_Catholic_Church
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
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then where did the rules come from that guide it?

What you see today is a tiny fraction of all the failed evolutionary life forms, we (animals and plants) that exist today have adapted.
Or did your God just make millions of mistakes?.

I am surprised at you yehudi, maybe it is the fasting.
Fasting is a good exercise to be done.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

series of impossibly lucky mutations.

I disagree with this.
You obviously do not understand Evolution, it was not a throw of the dice and WHAM! here you are.
Are you serious, do I have to explain Evolution to you?.
This argument is not even close to the truth.
Does Judaism not except the theory of evolution which is backed up by millions of pieces of evidence?.
I fear you are lacking in education and that these are your own misconceptions?.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

I merely showed an example of how much more convenience-oriented an atheistic lifestyle can be than a religious one.

Christians have abortions every day.

Reading texts. Much as I am with you currently.

This is an interesting avenue.
Which texts are you reading, in which language are you reading them, where do they come from and who compiled them?.
A rough answer will do.

Torq's being a Catholic in a Catholic majority therefore does not have to be at all related to his ability to think for himself.

I agree but it is likely that Torq would be a Catholic.

I disagree, I think being born where and when you were born has everything got to do with your religion.

Well, it's hard for me to argue if you say that you know that better about my religion than I do myself.

Torq, are you suggesting that you are a Catholic and that has nothing to do with Poland?.
What religion would you have been before Christ?.
What religion would you have probably been if you were born in a country where the majority (90% in this case) were of a different religion, still Catholic?.

You claim that being recently brought up in Poland had nothing to do with you being Catholic, I disagree, it is probably that you are Catholic.

I think that you are trying to ask why did God chose to reveal himself i

I am actually saying he never revealed himself because there was/is and will be nothing to reveal.

Geez, I don't know. Why don't you come to Ustka and ask my old man yourself?

My point was, I doubt if your father, because of his agnosticism, flung caution to the wind and did whatever he wanted.
Although Ustka looks interesting :)

you might think that you can do anything that isn't forbidden by the civil law of the country you live in

The same argument could be used about religion and going to confession and absolving your sins or just asking God for forgiveness and going off and doing the the same or similar things again.

A lesser person than your good self, could twist the religion to suit himself.

in which the question of pagans long time before Christ is thoroughly explained.

People who believed in Zues and Thor are also considered Pagans, they are to my knowledge not similar to the Christian God.
I will PM you all the same.

to me the idea that the world just happened arbitrarily with no creator is more absurd

Who said anything about "arbitrarily"?.
There is nothing arbitrary about evolution.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

Nothing to do with my religion.

I disagree, I think being born where and when you were born has everything got to do with your religion.

I like you, you stubborn Irish twa*t.

I like you too, I am Sorry, I did not mean to insult you.
I just wanted to put things in context.

Or was Zues and Thor and your God the same thing?

Of course not, does it not make you wonder, where was the Christian God before Christ and Judaism?.

More like an agnostic I'd say, and later probably close to anonymous Christian

I would feel much better if I was an atheist and didn't need to believe in God.

So did your father feel more comfortable thinking there may not be a God?, could he do whatever he wanted?.
My point is not believing in God does not make someone less moral or less of a good person.

I only said that it is comfortable for some people to be atheists and I stick to that.

Why?.

that's true, but again you're stating the obvious.

From your statements, I find it necessary to state the obvious.

Unfortunately, I'm not an atheist so I don't have that comfort.

You fear God.
The fact that there is no life after death, means to me that, this life is way too important, we just get one shot, no redemption, we have to try our best the first time.

You're trying to hold a debate to prove or disprove the existence of a God?

No I am not, I am an Atheist.
Can you disprove that there is a spaghetti monster? No but it still does not make it true.

Since the beginning, God made it clear that we would have freedom of action

What beginning?.
Humans, as we know them today, appeared about 195,000 years ago, God did not tell them anything.

I don't see how my personal choice to kill or not kill innocent people should affect your opinion on God.

it doesn't, even if you don't do anything.
Proof would make affect my opinion.

because he chose to be. That should be obvious.

It is obvious he was not going to believe in Zues.

Because one is a free thinker doesn't actually mean that one should constantly go against whatever standards there exist.

No, but it does mean to question them all.

If one doesn't believe that there's any higher power than himself

That depends on what you mean by a higher power?.
A consious supernatural force that created all of this but left no proof of his existance and punishes us for not believing, then no.
But I never said there were no higher powers.

Good! It's easier to just kill them, anyway!

Again a typical accusation from a religious person.
Being an atheist does not mean you want abortion.
I would personally prefer my "religious" classes in school to be exchanged for educating kids on life.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
Real Estate / Polish Mortgage for a Foreigner [16]

As for mortgages in CHF/Euro/GBP/USD... as far as I know they are not available from any lenders at the moment , the only game in town is PLN for now.

I agree, I just wanted to show him where the discrepancy was.

take it ( before the margins increase again , which they are very likely to do in the short term) .

Why do you think they will increase again and how short is short term?.

My crystal ball is working well by the way... things are only going to get worse!

How much worse? and is there any chance of a recovery, if so when?.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

The secular regard morality not as absolute, but as relative.

Give me examples, please.

So instead of moral absolutes, the secularist holds legal absolutes. "Legal" for the secularist is what "moral" is for the Right.

I disagree, I think something can be legal and immoral but thanks for telling me what I hold.

The religious have a belief in God-based moral law, and the secularist believes in man-made law exists as moral law.

you are just repeating yourself now.

This is the exact reason why the secularist is infatuated with creating law.

Something that churches never do, moral laws, there are venial sins, mortal sins and don't forget all the "Thou shalt nots" in the ten commandments.

A lot of them outdated and all made up but that does not mean some of them are not sensible, logical and reasonable.

Since it lacks the self-control mechanism that is a major part of religion, the secularist passes more and more laws to control people.

So Atheists can not be moral? that is not correct.
And we know not all religious people are moral, soooo?...

There is the direct link between the decline in Judeo-Christian religion and the increase in governmental laws controlling human behavior.

People need laws and morals.
Through education and common sense in more drastic situations by force.

Put it this way, close the jails, get rid of the police and the courts and see what happens, do you think it would last or are the prisons just full of Atheists?.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

God is outside time and space, so talking about him in terms of "not being around
for long" is completely nonsensical.

It is completely nonsensical.
If you are just going to apply magic that makes God so wonderfully disappear from everything, there is no debate of discussion.

If I was Greek, living in Greece about 500 years B.C. there would be no way
for me to be a Christian.

That is my point free thinker, why are you a Christian now?, having been brought up in a country where only 90% of the population are Catholic. (rhetorical)

Did your God jump out from behind a tree only 3000 years ago? Has he been hiding all this time?.
Or was Zues and Thor and your God the same thing?.

An overwhelming majority
of people killed in death camps were either Christian or Jewish and their
religion is very relevant in this context, because they were all probably asking
themselves questions about their religion, beliefs and the role of God in their
lives.

Lets face it, they had very very good reason to question their religion, beliefs and the role of God in their lives, when being systematically killed.

Or was it God's divine plan?.

I would feel much better if I was an atheist and didn't need to believe in God.
I mean - I could do whatever I wanted without wondering if it's OK or not (as
long as it wasn't forbidden by law of a country I lived in) and after I died I would
just cease to exist and I wouldn't even know that I don't exist - very comfortable
indeed.

That is not true and a typical assumption about Atheists.
Was your father an Atheist?.
You claim moral superiority from you bible but it simply is not true that a believer is any more morally correct in his life than an Atheist.

Unlike religious people, i have to take full responsibility for my actions, no confession, no absolvusion of sins, no blaming it on "God's divine plan", no blaming it on the Devil, nothing, just me in the universe.

That's why a lot of people need to believe that there isn't God. It simply makes
their life more comfortable.

Just because you feel comfort from a God, is no reason for it to be true.

All I'm saying is that for a lot of people their atheism is simply
an excuse to live a comfortable life. I know many people like that.

WHAT? see above.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
Real Estate / Polish Mortgage for a Foreigner [16]

I might have Polish citizenship

I think that might help.
Of course it is more about earnings or assets but there seem to be more options available to Polish people when getting a mortgage.

Warsaw, Krakow, or Poznan, haven't decided which city yet.

It'll be fun checking them all out :)

I may end up living in the apartment in the future.

I recommend it as a long term investment and if you are considering to live in it, all the better.

Best of luck mortgage hunting, let us know if you have any further questions and I will try to recharge the batteris for my crystal ball.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

why did you post it?

Because your Christian God has not been around for long.

What for?

Because my point was about

Or do you think you would have converted to Catholicism if you were brought up in Canada 3000 years ago?.

That you believe in God(s) X (or not) because of where you live and when you live.
About 500 years B.C. in Greece, you would be telling me you believe in Zues.

when
you're talking about death camps in which Jews and Christians died, the subject
of God is very likely to be discussed.

I dislike this breakdown.
They were people who were killed, not just Jews or Christians.
Perhaps it is just badly phrased?.
I would say "people were killed", rather than this.
And a lot of people need to believe there is a God but it still does not make it true.

Who is this Dan Brown btw.?

He is the fictional writer who wrote "Angel's and Demons" and "DaVinci Code".
Both bad books and both bad movies.

Pan Kazimierz, accused me of liking him too.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
Real Estate / Polish Mortgage for a Foreigner [16]

I am Irish and live in Poland.
I first tried to get a mortgage here about 8 years ago, it was far from easy then too.

It is not just foreigners that find it difficult to get mortgages.
Some say, this is one of the contributing factors to Poland's relative stability during these difficult financial times.

Shop around, the Zloty is re-gaining some of it's strength now.
It fell about 20% against the Euro in the last year but probably because it was over valued.

Again, I am not a mortgage broker and my crystal ball needs new batteries.
It always depends on who you read.

Just out of curiosity, what do you want the mortgage for?.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
Real Estate / Polish Mortgage for a Foreigner [16]

Hello Paddy123,

And welcome to the Polish forums.

I am not a mortgage broker.

with an interest rate of 7%.

In which currency?.
It sounds like it is in Zloty, try getting one in Swis Frank for a comparison.

Currencies fluctuate and my crystal ball is fogged up.
SeanBM   
30 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

There was no Catholicism much less a Canada 3000 years ago.

My point exactly.

Humans, as we know them today, appeared about 195,000 years ago, on this planet which is about 4.54 billion years old, in a Universe which is between 13.5 and 14 billion years old.

There was no Catholicism much less a Canada or a planet named Earth or Universe back then either.
Jesus and his followers came along about 2000 years ago. Even Judaism is only about 3300 years old.

I just want to give an example of time scale here.
SeanBM   
29 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

I'm not willing to share it
on a public forum.

No problem.

I would only like to notice that the thread is being dragged off-topic again (not by me ;))

I just joined the conversation but you are right (not about your God but about the thread ;)
SeanBM   
29 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

This is exaclty how I am going to raise
my kids. If they choose to be Catholics, I'll be very happy, if they don't - I won't
mind.

I think this is a good idea.
I have a few friends who had agnostic or atheist parents, funny thing is they get very curious about religion.

I'm a very down to earth, sensible man

I said that I believe - it is faith not knowledge that we're talking about.

Sometimes, after all you do believe in a God.

And that example of the elephants and sparrows was not very persuasive or even on target.
SeanBM   
29 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

I was raised a free man, able to make my own choice when it comes to religion.

Where were you raised a free man?.
Wouldn't have been good old Poland, would it?, sure that is only 90% Catholic.

Or do you think you would have converted to Catholicism if you were brought up in Canada 3000 years ago?.
SeanBM   
29 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

Not true. I wasn't raised a Catholic

You were not raised a Catholic but you are now?.
That is unusual, what were you raised?.

I believe that there is.

Why?.

The Radio Maryja family are a bunch of liberals and modernists compared to me

But I bet you don't get half the funding Rydzyk gets? ;)
SeanBM   
29 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

Well, if you chose not to believe the message then obviously you wouldn't
believe in hell.

Children are indoctrinated into the religions because of where and when they were born, it is not a choice.

So what kind of threat are you talking about?

I am talking about the psychological terrorist threat of hell.

How can you
be scared of something you don't even believe in?

I don't believe in hell, well except for that place in Norway.

The final decision
is for God to make.

There is no God.

I did not before now, know that you were religious Torq.
SeanBM   
29 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

A Large dated compilation of Christian Crimes since its advent:

Well apart from that BB, what have the Christians ever done wrong? ;)

Someone will come shouting for a link soon.

Power hungry man seems to always want to manipulate and therefore control other people.
A waste of time if you ask me, look with in yourselves.
SeanBM   
29 Jul 2009
Real Estate / Poland's next property boom [5]

a vast number of new apartments awaiting buyers are the wrong type of apartments. Studios and one-bedroom apartments are, as ever, in demand by young professionals getting onto the housing ladder, but the two-, three- and four-bedroom apartments currently in the supply chain are proving of little interest – a classic mismatch in the market.

That has always been the case.

the banks need to start lending again to both individuals and developers.

Hit the nail on the head.
SeanBM   
29 Jul 2009
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It was a way of thinking, of seeing and explaining the world around them, of customs and traditions, which has grown for millennia with the people, with the land...it fit them like a glove.

AAaawwweee BB, you are a sentimental romantic, it is kind of nice for a change on here from the rest.
SeanBM   
29 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

Bible is a message to us from God and using
our free will we can chose to either believe the message or not.

If we "choose" we go to heaven.
If we "choose" not we go to hell.
How is that a choice.
It seems more like a terrorist threat to me.

Europe was very well happy with their old customs

What makes you say that?.