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celinski   
27 Aug 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

They will always hate both of us, so what a reason to be kind with them?

Hate is a strange word Constantine. When we are discussing historical truth I have a low tolerance for ignorance. This does not mean I hate you or anyone else for that matter.

I do "hate" when your goverment lie's to you or your children and sets an example that by twisting and down playing the truth, it makes everything acceptable. What happened to Poland's people at the hands of "Katyn" or "Siberia" on the orders of a brutal dictator should never be ignored, downplayed or forgotten. This history should be a lesson in responsability, accountability and what can happen when evil takes power.
celinski   
27 Aug 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

Just keep silent and mourn over them.

Thats right we can't talk about it. lol What a neat little package for Soviets, sorry this is no longer the case. Sooner or later Russia will learn that all have rights and they cannot pick and choose what is spoken of.
celinski   
27 Aug 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

your Katyn as a dirty rag.

It's not a "dirty rag"? I must say it is rather odd that now Russia admits to this murder. Least they simply show respect, make amnends, let the victims families heal. That would be to human though, better to start a new round of bs.

My message is simple, take responsability, tell the truth and make amnends.
celinski   
27 Aug 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

Russian history textbook

lol this post is about teaching twistd versions of history.

I will buy You a standard Russian history textbook

What version will it have the German's did it, or new and improved we did it because "Stalin was an efficient leader, not a murderer. The killing of Polish officers in Katyn was a well-deserved revenge," will be the new official historical theory taught in Russian schools."

History is the truth, not some fairy tale that you can alter.
celinski   
26 Aug 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

people keep moaning about something they cant fix, then they will never move on.

Do you really think the timing of the new text in Russia's education system are new, please. Perfect timing for Putin to pour salt on the wound.

To teach your children that "Katyn" was Poland's fault and they brought it on themselves is just plain sick. All the men that trusted Soviets enough to put turn their weapons in only to be killed in cold blood is murder.

Crimes even during war time should not be tolerated, or in this case turned on the victim and twisted to teach to innocent children.

Sasha and Constatine you know the truth and if you feel your children should go to school and learn lies from your goverment don't say you are free. Demand your goverment have standards and they will, lie and you look like fools.
celinski   
26 Aug 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

It's easy to say "move on" but it's very important that there are people in the world who battle to save memories and stop them from being twisted.

Not to mention, how dare Russia falsely make justification for the killing? It's bad enough this crime took place, now they admit and blame the victim's, bs.
celinski   
26 Aug 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

Why can't people move on with their lives, what do you think your grandfather would think of you know??? I tell you if i was chasing the German Pilot who shot down my Great Grandad or the flack gun that could of hit his Bomber that was lost, he would be laughing at me saying 'get on with your life' i gave mine, now don't waste yours!!!'

My Grandfather would be proud, thank you. Do you recall that "occupied Poland" were not alloud to speak of this crime? We are not talking about one person killed on the street, we are speaking of Poland's military, shot in the head. Unarmed men that were unarmed. 22,000 for what?
celinski   
26 Aug 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

playground argument

And history left uncorrected, repeats itself. Do we as humans have standards, and if we do, why are you still trying to silence anyone that brings up this subject?
celinski   
26 Aug 2008
News / Abkhazia and South Ossetia are independent states now! Poland reaction? [236]

they are allies, and russia is doing no wrong in helping its allies.

We were allies with Soviets also, I don't believe everthing I hear. Russia is not doing this out of the goodness of her heart. By the way how many of the people were killed when Russia went in?
celinski   
26 Aug 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

FYI: Sasha is a man

Thank you for clearing that up, now I don't have to be so easy on him. :) One of my aunts is "Stanislaw and we call her "Stasha" silly me never thought to look.
celinski   
26 Aug 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

I have ti transalte that.

I am not suprized Constantine hides behind a lady, and although he feels I was a victim he should know better than any, Katyn left no victims. I really don't need his money but he could look into the educational system in Russia as they are not teaching responsability and telling lie's to children just like they did you. IMO I want the truth even if it's not what I want to hear and if I don't get it I loose respect and trust.

Obviously you're having a sex with brain

excuse me now I am ROFL. This "brain" is he good looking?

death of RA's soldiers is NOT a lie.

Sweetheart, we all die. My point is what kind murderer would take unarmed men and shoot them in the head, 22,000 times. Hey you guys ever wonder what the Soviets were so scared of, here they had guns on unarmed men and they still tied their hands. Shot Polish military must be fantastic when you look at how scared the big mean Soviets with guns were.
celinski   
26 Aug 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

let people decide themselves on what works better for them.

How about we just tell the truth and teach the children that things in history were wrong and should never happen again.

Long story short I'm disturbed with your lie here that you call a lie death of soldiers of the RA.

Did you by chance read the "lie" being taught to Russian children?
celinski   
26 Aug 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

to be the only record in your player

I'm sorry I forgot it's all about the Nord and money. Personally I feel teaching the next gen of innocent Russia children lie's is wrong. Or maybe we should teach all American children twisted versions of history as long as we look like hero's?
celinski   
26 Aug 2008
News / Abkhazia and South Ossetia are independent states now! Poland reaction? [236]

You have nothing to oppose this fact except stupid road-shows

Even Russia admits it is not going to be up held. From "If Tbilisi goes to law, the proceedings won’t be in our favor,” a well-informed source close to the government said on condition of anonymity."
celinski   
26 Aug 2008
History / Russia tells teachers to lie to students about "Katyn" [139]

This is a video clip which shows the tragedy commited against Polish officers and other citizens in II World War, when they were murdered by Soviets.



"Katyn massacre"

I'm waiting
celinski   
26 Aug 2008
News / Abkhazia and South Ossetia are independent states now! Poland reaction? [236]

Russia had to do this or get out.

Russia has to officially recognize independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia to keep its troops there. The thing is that peacekeepers may remain in the conflict area by mutual agreement of both parties. Therefore, the approval of Georgia is vital, but President Mikheil Saakashvili denounced the presence of Russia's peacekeepers August 12, viewing them as occupants starting from that day.

At the same time, Moscow harbors no illusions about the global response to this move. "By recognizing independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, we will breach the principle of territorial integrity of sovereign Georgia. Besides, there is the U.N. Security Council resolution on Abkhazia that spells out that the conflict is to be resolved in view of the territorial integrity of Georgia. If Tbilisi goes to law, the proceedings won't be in our favor," a well-informed source close to the government said on condition of anonymity.

kommersant.com/page.asp?id=1016182
celinski   
26 Aug 2008
History / UPA - Ukrainian Insurgent Army. How they killed poles in Volhynia (1943). [139]

Hi my name is Yanek, I’m Russian and here’s what I think………………..

Hi my name is Carol and reguardless of the roots of people posting, crimes and the criminals that commited them should be held accountable, even if just for the sake of showing the nation you are held to a universal standard.