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NORMANISTS AND ANTI-NORMANISTS -the end of historic lie. [16]
However in their mentality and genetical composition Great Russians are close to Mongols or Tartars.
It's turanic civilsation.
Borrka you should clarify your opinion about Russian origin, who are they, Mongols or Finno-Ugric? As I thought, there is some differece between these branches? Honestly, I don't care about my genetics, of course I have some Tartars roots too, nevertheless I have two legs, two hands, one head and quite long 'unmentionable', so do you thing that I am something different?
Moscovites (Great Russians) were civilized by Rus'
I don't know eactly what you meant, but as I correctly remember, Kiev jn the South and Novgorod on the North had almost equal significance for Rus.
They are using "mongolized" Ukrainian language and they took over Kievian myths and tradition.
Last but not least the religion.
I want to advise you to see on the geography of Russia. Take a look on the south with open spaces around Kiev, and forests around Moscow on north. I think, it was very difficult for Tartars to penetrate through this forest to the north unlike south. Novgorod for example, hadn't ever seen even one Mongol.
I feel what I feel, the history of Kievan Rus is my own history, so it is mine! I don't care about genetic of people in Russia. Do you remember Dahl? He was Dane, but composed most perfect dictionary of Russian language. Who he was? I think he was Russian.
I seem to recall from some historical sources that a lot of the old Rurik/Kievan princes chose to meld with the Polish/Lithuanian Cth.
Of course they had! Unlike you, Poles, Russians never had any difficulties of mixing with other people. But we do this only at condition of adopting our culture. Here is our strength.
That would suggest that it was under threat from Poland, which it clearly wasn't.
Sure enough it was. Otherwise you would be still there.
Please, don't hold back Con - open some of those old wounds. I'm keen to discuss these issues with you.
Do you remember how your ancestors had eaten each other in Kremlin? I have no intention to take into account Katyn, I know that this issue is very painfull for Pole, so let's restrict our discussion by the frames of remote past.