THE POLES ON THE FRONT LINES OF WWII

Hang on a god damn minute dont put me in with noimmigration for F sake.

I may have issues with living in Poland from time to time but im not that bad, am I?

What's going on admin? My post was deleted? Can I have an explanation please?

this really is pathetic........who is moderating this and will they give an explanation as to just why they are removing totally on topic posts? any chance of stepping up to the plate?

like I said sadek,look at the second post in this thread and class me with the braindead no immi,in case you find clicking on page one hard here is post no 2;

Well keeping ON TOPIC whats so second greatest about it? The Poles flew a few sorties and began the whole shooting down pilots episode after they had bailed out thus consequenting in the loss of many a great British/commonwealth fightor pilot in retaliation.

thats rubbish mate,"our" boys did exactly the same,and why not,some nazi trying to drop bombs on london,why should they have given him any chance to return to the luffty?

Nah they didn't mate. Shooting down a plane was enough for our boys. War is hell and generally speaking if your wife, son, mother had been killed by the Nazi's maybe you would want revenge buy shooting them out of the sky after they had bailed. The Poles had a vengeance and they killed every German they could because of there vengeance.

They were flying our planes so the Germans did the same, thinking it was our guys.

There are certain rules in war: yes/no? How many British/commonwealth POW's died in pow camps? How many Poles died in pow camps?

Er,I think my uncles diary would prove you wrong,you may like pics of spitfires,my family (3 of them anyway) actually flew them.


actually,no,it isnt,there were many "germans " who served the Polish army loyaly in '39 and either died fighting for Poland or ended up in nazi camps as "traitors to the reich".

and btw,mod,just wondering how on topic this is that you didnt remove;


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zip all to do with the thread,just some lame pop at Britain having had an empire,not something many brits are all that proud of,so he just re hashes old pinko trash and gets away with it does he?

It is a well known fact that for every proven German plane shot down atleast five of the same squadron members all claimed the same kill. So three of your imideate family members flew Spitfires, are you sure? If three of your family members actually served in the RAF it is highly unlikey that even two of them would actually fly Spitfires. The bulk of the Raf's fighter pilots (atleast 70%) flew Hurricanes as these planes made up the bulk of Britians defense against the Luftwaffe and were more effective against the bombers which were the major threat.

Please provide names of all your relatives that flew so i may check them with the Imperial War Museams archive. My granfather is there!

Poles really can't win when you're on watch. Firstly some of them are accused of fighting for the Germans and the one's that did fight are accused that because of their vengeance, killing every German, it caused British pilots to be shot at whilst bailing out. In any event, it aint true. Read Zamoyski's "the forgotten few".

It mystifies me why some of you Brits carry on like this sometimes.

er,whats that got to do with the price of fish? (smells of you franticaly searching wiki....)


er,yes.


clever boy....two indead did start the war on Hurricanes,one in Battle of france and Battle of britian,the other only in the battle of britain,they like their cousin,went on to finish the war flying later mk spitfires...


er,NO,why should I? Why should I give out my family name on a public forum?


crikey,let him out,wouldnt he be better off living with family or in a nice retirement home? :)


lol.


Some of us like to try and see all sides,some of us just look for the negative,ah well......

Usually I would not punch so low as to pick on anothers spelling but under the circumstances are you sure that the word INDEAD is not a tad unfitting? You did state that two went on to survive the war.

Your not editing aswell now are you, to benefit yourself?

You guys really have no idea how many times this has been argued over. Seems like at least once a month a thread about WW2 leads to an arguement between someone who says Poles were useless and others who say that the Poles were a decisive part of Britain's defense during the London Blitz.

Honestly, this is a never ending arguement that will only end when you realise that each side has legitimate arguements, whether or not you want to accept those arguements.

In comes the night shift from accross the pond, hello.

We like to debate and argue over here as apposed to corrupt FOX news and fixed presidentail elections.

eh? wtf,is that the best you can do?Point out a dyslexics spelling mistakes? bit sad really isnt it.......any reply to the actual post or have you crawled off realising you have no arguement? Anything to add to the subject apart from crap you may have read in a commando war comic as a kid?more nonsense about pole shooting down gerries in parachutes.....eh bah gum,some people,your getting as bad as that loony sadek :)


lol,johhny forgiegner never gets this :) nowt better than a good barney rubble to get the juices going :)( ER,DEBATING JUICES THAT IS.....)

Hey. Look. You have to admit, that the Polish pilots had an incredible amount of kills for their few numbers, and yes, many of them had acted without thinking at times.

Fact of the matter is, they didn't just give up after their country was lost. They Bled on French soil, on the British Isle, Italy, Africa, etc. They were there. They did their part, and with a lot of modesty IMHO.

In the UK you can find a museum with a wing dedicated to the 303 squadron, in Italy there is a memorial dedicated to those who stormed Monte Cassino, in France there are Polish grave sights for those who tried to save France, and more.

All the while they fought not only for their country, family, and friends, but to protect their allies from the same force that devestated their very own people.

Why were they such good pilots? They trained with WW1 planes, they were hard to maneuver and fly, and were easily overpowered by the more advanced German planes, but when they finally got their hands on some modern British planes they were a force to be reckoned with. I'm not saying they were the best pilots, but they were certainly in that ball park.

A great man once said: "I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith."

Those simple words were put on the back of Polish gravestones all over Europe.

Nobody can deny that the Polish played a very important role during WW2, so why try to downplay it?

This is you, you hypocrit. You started editing stuff.


If my posts are the first you have ever heard about fighter pilots being shot down after bailing out then you really have been reading "rule the World" comic books. I have bought to your attention a few issues surrounding the RAF in WWII and considering a man that had three direct relatives fly Spitfires your knowledge base really is a little on the novice side.


Nowt get mi ass up them apples and pairs and do meself a favor, for fuke sake.

nope,lost me....wtf are you on about?


dont be a muppet,I told you even British pilots shot gerry in their parachutes.....now you try and say Ive never heard of this...what a flump,and here was me thinking you may have turned a leaf,nope,same old same old........I repeat,sadek,dont lump me in with these two!!!


Quite.

Poles started shooting down gerry pilots after they bailed out, the gerries started doing this to RAF pilots thinking we had broken a code of war.

1+1=2 simple

Obviously there were pilots on both sides that practised this from the beginning but it became more occurant after 303 squadron was formed, fact.

But the Brits never once shot down a parachuting Luftwaffe pilot? Only the Poles, right? All the blame can't be placed on one group of individuals. While Poles might have made up the majority of these "reckless" pilots, but I guarantee they were not the only ones. So saying they were to blame is false.

All the pilots who shot down parachuters were to blame, regardless of background.

Are you a girl? if you are I will forgive that girly statement.

Are you a polonaphobe? if you are i'll forgive you for trying to make Polish pilots look like @ssholes who broke the unwritten rules of war.

If you don't mind me asking, how the hell was that a girl statement? I'm just merely pointing out that you can't put sole blame on the Polish for the deaths of British pilots. That's all. I don't understand where you're coming from.

It's like trying to blame the entire nation of Iraq for what a few idiotic insurgents did on 9/11.

Sorry dude when i read your posts im reading with a Michael Jackson voice in my head cant help it with you.

No im not a Polonaphobe, i would just really like to say i love all of you people and i had a really great time. Peace to all and wars solve nothing, lets just live in harmony. Peace the World over, Michael....OUT.

Why can't you just look at it from a different perspective, if only for a second. If you think everything out before you come to a conclusion you'll be more satisfied with what you've chosen.

If you honestly believe that it was the fault of Polish pilots directly and only, that's all you. I was just trying to show you that there are other ways to look at things like arguements.

War crimes were commited by all sides, blah, blah, blah

You were simply talking crap (again) and I had to educate you a bit. Get over that.

look,if you have an issue,take it to pm where I/we can all ignore you,if you want to demean the subject with your odd obsesive attraction to me just grow up and stop being a big baby.how old are you g,?about 15? a good little thread went tits up when you poked your grotty little nose in,as per usuall.go jump in a pond head first.

What code of war?
This one?

or this one?



or perhaps you meant this code of war?

Did you really mean that? Yeah 40 years of Poland behind the iron curtain, Not bloody chap curtain. Allies didnt step foot past berlin

British write BS that they won WW2, when in fact they were 2nd rate force and half of "their" army were Indians, Negros, Poles etc. So instead of being grateful they try to downgrade achievments of people who fought for them... That's the worst kind of inferiority complex.

er,just to make it clear,no immi wrote that guff,I replied much as you did jumper...but would add,the western allies didnt even get that far...


exactly,wroclaw boy seems to believe the nonsence about all RAF lads playing some sort of cricket match with the Hun,which,frankly,is nonsense. the only reason RAF pilots may not have shot at jumping jerries would be a lack of ammunition....he just doesnt seem to get how brutal the war was.

g',you talk out of your backside....


really,Poles in the british army,nope,poles were in the polish army,you loon. but,it just seems like another of your nazi like posts slagging off non whites....


nope,that would be you,with your constant racism....muppet.every british poster in this thread has praised those very same people you claim we put down.....What is your purpose in life?is it just to cry like a baby and moan like a spoiled teenage girl?