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Polson  5 | 1767  
30 Oct 2007 /  #601
Oh, you already have a Slavic goddess :P some are lucky here...LoL
Crow  154 | 9598  
30 Oct 2007 /  #602
Quoting: Polson
Let's pray now...LoL Let's pray for a Slavic goddess to come tonight ;P

my slavic goddness is in shop now ;) but latter I m going to pray ;))

hmmmm, on the altair of ethernity, of all beauties

lucky you

:)
Polson  5 | 1767  
30 Oct 2007 /  #603
my slavic goddness

It's not the one on your pic ?... ;P
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
30 Oct 2007 /  #604
Oh thank you Lukasz for introducing, though I think that I am not an invalid and I could introduce myself.

In topic about PL-GER relationships he was writting that Germans shouldnt forget about their Russian friends and in case of Poland they can always ask for help (Russia) ...

Well, you think that there is some sort of contradiction in the friend relationship between Russia and Germany? You think, that being so, it will be very dangerous for Poland?

He is trying to prove that Russia is so rich that we can just dream about thier level of life ...

Truth! As a state, Russia is a very rich state, but their citizens poorer than EU's. But we never had consumer society as an aim.

when we proved that you can buy Russian teen from rich St Petersburg by internet he stoped

Hemm, unfortunately/fortunately I have no any significant expiriance in this field. I didn't have sex with teen boys/girls, so I can let have the floor to you! Do you have?

Next he was writting that Mongolina warriors were poor too and conquered half of word

But it's a real fact!

I just dont want to writte more but to cut long story short he is typical Russian politician ...

I am not politican

and of course he loves their Putin ...

Exactly, I bow before him, eventually he is much better than mr.bush, or sarco.....and even KachBroth.
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
30 Oct 2007 /  #605
It's not the one on your pic ?... ;P

heheh sie would kill me ... ;) but she is very similar ;)))
Polson  5 | 1767  
30 Oct 2007 /  #606
Hehe ;)

Truth! As a state, Russia is a very rich state

Considering the size of your country, don't know if you are as "rich"...compared to small countries of Europe ;)

Quoting: Lukasz
and of course he loves their Putin ...

Exactly, I bow before him, eventually he is much better than mr.bush, or sarco.....and even KachBroth.

Much better...hmm, dunno...they all suck actually ;)
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
30 Oct 2007 /  #607
It is much more expensive (Germans and Russians wants to bild it using EU funds)

Please, let Russian to solve their economic problems. Otherwise it looks like mercantile malice.

Quoting: ConstantineK
Quoting: Lukasz
and of course he loves their Putin ...

Exactly, I bow before him, eventually he is much better than mr.bush, or sarco.....and even KachBroth.

Much better...hmm, dunno...they all suck actually ;)

I bet that all French want to have such national lider as Putin, because he is natural in all his actions.

Quoting: ConstantineK
Truth! As a state, Russia is a very rich state

Considering the size of your country, don't know if you are as "rich"...compared to small countries of Europe ;)

Considering to a territory? Hem, i think that it wouldn't be correct. May be to the population? Only 145 mil, it is not so prominent.
Polson  5 | 1767  
30 Oct 2007 /  #608
I bet that all French want to have such national lider as Putin, because he is natural in all his actions

No thanks, enough of our Sarko here ;)

(i'm going to eat, see ya later all)
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
30 Oct 2007 /  #609
hire is artistic vision of one ancient Slavic spirit `Rusalka`

Hem, very strage, Rusalka must have a tail instead of legs
Crnogorac  3 | 111  
30 Oct 2007 /  #610
Milorad Dodik

Prime Minister of Republika Srpska Milorad Dodik calls for demonstrations against NATO and American troops in Bosnia.

PUTIN and Poland

Bosnian Serbs demonstrate against NATO and Americans: Putin je Tsar!
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
30 Oct 2007 /  #611
Quoting: Lukasz
I think we have nice mithology ;)

Let's pray now...LoL Let's pray for a Slavic goddess to come tonight ;P

Hemm sure! RUSALKA or even better UPIR or VURDALACK!
z_darius  14 | 3960  
30 Oct 2007 /  #612
Rusalka must have a tail instead of legs

???
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
30 Oct 2007 /  #613
Bosnian Serbs demonstrate against NATO and Americans: Putin je Tsar!

Russians are going to sell Serbs ... so they will realize where they should look for friends ...

And Russias alies will be Bielarus (?), Wenezuela, North Korea ...

hugo

They were so stupid they used energetic black mail, strategic bombers and so on ... that our point of view is more and more understanded in EU. Their project of Notrh pipe line is in troubles too. We as the strongest country with troubles with them, have choosen PO with much bettter press and proffesional diplomacy.

Hem, very strage, Rusalka must have a tail instead of legs

Syrenka has tail instead of legs
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
30 Oct 2007 /  #614
Syrenka has tail instead of legs

Rusalka (Rus) I think the same as Syrenka (Pol)
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
30 Oct 2007 /  #615
no we have Rusałka in our mithology and Syrenka

Rusałka looks like that ;)) :

res
z_darius  14 | 3960  
30 Oct 2007 /  #616
Rusalka (Rus) I think the same as Syrenka (Pol)

According to your suggestion, Syrenka (Syr) would have to be Syrian :)

As a matter of fact, Syrenka and Rusalka are two different creatures. Syrenka, originally comes from Greek mythology.
Crnogorac  3 | 111  
30 Oct 2007 /  #617
I think people are making a big mistake if they consider today's Russia of Vladimir Putin is the same to the IMF dependent, morally bankrupt society in Russia of Boris Yeltsin during the 90's.

Russia of Yeltsin had $ 10 bilion USD of foreign reserves. Russia of Vladimir Putin has $ 300 billion USD of foreign reserves reflecting the global increase in the price of gas and oil in the markets. If you are more interested I advise you to check out the Goldman Sachs study of BRIC's (Brazil Russia India China as the most promising emerging economies of the World which will change for ever the geopolitical situation considerably in the next 50 years period). USA will not be the only unipolar force as it is today. I could go on with those type of facts for days.

Serbia and Montenegro have a free trade agreement with Russia which no other European country has. This is why many global companies are registering in Belgrade and re-exporting their goods to Moscow custom and tax-free.

Currently there is an initiative at parliamentary level of a Slavic Union between Russia, Belarus and Serbia. If it were to happen, Crna Gora would be interested to join such an alliance. After all, when Russia went to war with Japan in 1904 Crna Gora sent volunteers to fight in moral support, 100 years later in 2006 we signed a peace treaty with the Japanese. So the history goes a long way back. The Russians built roads for us and also the first printing press in the Balkans was established in my town of Cetinje as a donation from the Russian Tsar in the 14th century. The first printed book in south-eastern Europe was published by Ivan Crnojevic in 1493.

Russo-Japanese War

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War

Breaking News: Montenegro, Japan To Declare Truce

postchronicle.com/news/breakingnews/article_21223537.shtml
z_darius  14 | 3960  
30 Oct 2007 /  #618
(Brazil Russia India China as the most promising emerging economies of the World which will change for ever the geopolitical situation considerably in the next 50 years period). USA will not be the only unipolar force as it is today. I could go on with those type of facts for days.

Predictions of the future are not facts.
Crnogorac  3 | 111  
30 Oct 2007 /  #619
Russia's vast natural resources tj proven oil and natural gas reserves are facts. The top American company indentified the BRIC's and surely there is no reason for financial experts to lie on such an issue?

BRIC's

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRIC
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
30 Oct 2007 /  #620
As a matter of fact, Syrenka and Rusalka are two different creatures. Syrenka, originally comes from Greek mythology.

Hemm, may be may be...but i think that in Russian mythology all this creatures were mixed, so we are acquainted with Syrens purely and only from the Greek's mythology. And RUSALKA exactly, in according with russian mythology have a tail.
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
30 Oct 2007 /  #621
Russia of Yeltsin had $ 10 bilion USD of foreign reserves. Russia of Vladimir Putin has $ 300 billion USD of foreign reserves reflecting the global increase in the price of gas and oil in the markets.

and economy smaller than Holland ...

what is more important Russia is much weaker in comparison to western states than it was durring cold war. They have money from petrol, and what they do ? They buy missiles, bombers, helps other regimes black mail democratic neigbours... So they play the same game in which they lost just 20 years ago.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
30 Oct 2007 /  #622
Predictions of the future are not facts.

May be may be, but there is no any sign of Poland even in this predictions...alas
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
30 Oct 2007 /  #623
whe have biger GDP increase than your Russia ...
z_darius  14 | 3960  
30 Oct 2007 /  #624
Russia's vast natural resources tj proven oil and natural gas reserves are facts.

How they will be used are not facts. Russia has had those resource for all the 70+ years of communism. How did they do?

The top American company indentified the BRIC's and surely there is no reason for financial experts to lie on such an issue?

You'd be surprised with the bloopers financial companies are capable of.

What you are writing are plans, and hopes. Will it work? Maybe yes, maybe not.
All it may take for Russia to regress with its GDP is a change in gas and oil price (80% or Russias export is gas and oil) to where some experts say it should be (about $60 a barrel)

Russia also faces a serious population crisis. With avg. life expectancy of 59 years for males, ridiculously high rate of alcoholism, and poor medical care, according to Russia's very own government, the population may dwindle down to between 70 and 100 million by the year 2050. Will it? Your guess is as good as mine. The same in regards to Russia's economy.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
30 Oct 2007 /  #625
what is more important Russia is much weaker in comparison to western states than it was durring cold war. They have money from petrol, and what they do ? They buy missiles, bombers, helps other regimes. So they play the same game in which they lost just 20 years ago.

Yes we are weaker, and we realize this fact! We are very pragmatic and we won't lost in the future, cold war was just an episode in this long play.

whe have biger GDP increase than your Russia ...

Mmmm, it's very nice, but why are you trying to stop the progress of Nord Stream? What is a main problem? Ecology or something else?
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
30 Oct 2007 /  #626
as to oil, when prices of oil will be blowe 60$ for longer time it is good business to make benizne form coal ... 90% of our power plants uses coal. And we have really enourmous emouts of coal in Poland. We have Uranium (in Sudety and Australian-Polish join venture wants to expolre it) that is why we joined Lithueanians in their plans to build nuclear power plant ... Honestly all European countries relifed from Russia are richer (per capita) than Russians ...

We started to discusse which country is stronger...

The problem is that Russia is black mailing us and our neigbours and we are not going to be quiet. Russia wants to trade with EU but they dont want to trade with new EU countries, they made embargo on our products, they black mail countries form our region. So until they will stop doing it and start trade in the same way with us as they do with western EU countries, we will block all trade agreements or joing Russia to WTO ... (yes we can do it)

Mmmm, it's very nice, but why are you trying to stop the progress of Nord Stream? What is a main problem? Ecology or something else?

why do you want to avoid other EU countries? after last three years of energetic black mailing we know game you play ... Honestly European bank refused to sponsor this project EU commision realized some facts too, and Germans do everything to make us quiet becuase some facts are more and more known in Brussels ...

Figures show that alternative ways of pipe line are economicaly much better (short and long term).

Ecology or something else?

Poland and Scandinavian countries are woried about ecology as well...

I understad that Russians just 20 years ago were first/second word power, and now they are the weakest in 300 years time ... I understand that Russia wants to be strong again ... it isnt wrong but we are not going to be victim of Russians aspirations.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
30 Oct 2007 /  #627
Ok lets stay this for tomorrow disussion, ok?
Polson  5 | 1767  
30 Oct 2007 /  #629
Poland and Scandinavian countries are woried about ecology as well...

Exactly, it's a chance that some countries are worried about nature...
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
30 Oct 2007 /  #630
you know I is very hard to have neighours like Russia ... we would like to discusse with them about nature, or what to see in Moscov. Or what kind of interesting products do they have. Unfortumately it isnt possible now... because Russians have had their emipre just 20 years ago, and they would like to be fearful and important again ...

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