What was poland's best epoch in history?

just wondering what people here think was the best time in polish history?

its obvious

so???

15th, 16th and the first half of 17th century.

The empire? the Polish lithuanian union?

the day i was born...
;D

but seriously, i think the best time for Poland was when we ruled the world....
lol...got you again...

jagiellon epoch i think is one of your best times and late 16th century

14th century was not too bad either with king: Władysław £okietek and Kazimierz The Great

In times of Nicolas I and Alexander II

I would say from 14th to 17th century, the decline begun in the mittle of the 18th century.

100 years earlier.

right now of course.

David do not know even his own history. The first signs of decline in Poland had been detected obviously with first elected king, at the end of sixteenth century.

I think when Poles crashed Turks in Vienna in 1682.Moments of glory.

Oh southern! It is quite obvious, Poland in this victory may be compared with lamp, which is flashing up and shining brighter before burning out.

Yes,the last glimpse but what a glorious one.

Weakening the enemy of our enemies, the Ottomans was wrong, it helped Russia and the Austrians. There should have been a better way to manage the threat.

A decade later after Jan III Sobieski died his french witch wife intrigued not to elect her own son as the next king of Poland but a German, August the Strong. This started the process ending in beeing sold and divided by the nations we helped to defend. The Turks at least had more honor! In many ways! They were cruel, sure, but they were not this low!

Some historian books (german) from the late 20th century I've read claimed the victory to the duke of Lorraine, Charles V, mentioning Sobieski only in a sidenote. Fvcking aristorcrat books though!


For an openminded cosmopolitan you sympathize a lot with the aristocrats! I would have rather expected you to name the 40ties of last century when glorious Beria, Khrushchev and Brezhnev liberated Poland as it was there on their way to Berlin. And braught us the gift of socialism. But something's wrong here, ahh there was Katyn outwards and Warsaw inwards ... but I'm sure some vodka will erase the sorrow.

And yes Sobieski was an aristocrat himself, but it was an other system in Poland.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_heraldry

August the Strong...interesting guy:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus_II_the_Strong


Mind you...the Brits still bow to a german royalty...:)

the beggining of the end. like a star - it shines very bright before it's gone.

Maybe you should read a little more Polish history from other authors then russian ones who got their degrees from a russian communist school?


When you write it in english, 1701-1800 becames 18th century. Or maybe you mean the Polish Decline begune in the 17th century already? :o

1569-1655
the interwar period 1918-1939 has been nice too, maybe without nazi aggression or be betrayed by all the allies and have 50 years of communism we could do something nice...

Why should I? I preffer to read historical documents with dried facts without any comments from both sides. Thus I don't have a need to read Polish interpratation of historical sequence, especially in Russo-Polish affairs. Your facts will be a priori against Russia, though one could hardly name it impartial. I read enough Polish present-day authors to form my own point of view on Polish historiographic process.

Polish wrong, English (Davies) biased...

May I ask you a question Kostik ?
Are you using Chukchan sources ?

I am not as strong in Polish history as in Roman, Russian, French or Byzantine and may consider it as a reflection on the historical facts from the history of above mentioned states. Nevertheless I know alot fron the Polish history, anyway more then Poles know about Russian. I have right to judge!

Off topic.
I'm asking for sources only.

I told you, Polish history is not my favourit topic, therefore may I rstrict the list by Russian prominent authors, such as Solov'ev, Kluchevskiy and so on. Yes I frecast your objection that they hardly might be named biased too, though I can plus Davise too.