Jews-Officers in the Polish Armed Forces 1939-1945

avotaynu.com/books/PolishOfficers.htm

What do you think about that ? It isn't well known fact. Jews were killed in Katyn too.

I think this thread is going straight to page 10.

Check our foreign affairs ministers after 1989.

Bronislaw Geremek

Adam Rotfeld

Stefan Meller

All with Polish Jews origin, like me. They are Polish. All doing good job. You should be happy that so many Jews want to be Poles.

Especially Gieremek...

Yes, I read that about 10% of the Polish officer corps executed in Katyn were Jews.

Do you know if there is a monument or at least seperate gravesites to mark the Polish Jews participation in WW2 (apart from Ghetto Rising monument in Warsaw) ?

I know about some Jewish soldiers` sites in Poland but.....

this one is from WW1

and this one is in the military cemetery of the British Commonwealth in Krakow.

PRO MEMORIA
Military Cem. Mount Herzl Jerusalem

I don't think so.


I don't spend much o time thinking about how some people consider themselves.

I remember seeing a bit of the movie "Uprising" where it claims incorrectly and irrelevantly (comparing apples and oranges) that the Warsaw Ghetto uprising lasted longer than the German seige of Poland. I wondered if the producers were aware that by claiming the Polish army's performance was worse than it was that they were also slamming the efforts of over 100,000 Jews at all levels of the military.

There does not actually seem to be much interest in Jews who fought alongside Poles, though apparently there were more Jews involved in the Warsaw Uprising of 1944 than the Warsaw Ghetto uprising of 1943.

A good post... I learned something...there were many patriotic Jewish Poles.

Mine ancestors have moved here 600 years ago, I'm Polish as hell.


What is your opinion about Rotfeld negotiations with Russia?


There is huge progress and changes in showing the same events from different perspectives. Hopefuly we are closer and closer to each other.

So what? It seems to me that you demand some special recognition. Somehow the rest of Poles should be happy and grateful that you consider yourself Polish.


You write about the times when Kwasniewski needed to wait half an hour in front of Putin cabinet till Russian president mercifully let him in? "Our" politicians did nothing to improve Polish-Russian relations.

I don't need special recognition.


That's why we need US shield. *wings* :P

Why you are talking about Kwasniewski ? By the way he isn't Jew.

Personaly I am fan of people like Wildstein.

I have been talking about new Rotfeld negotiations with Russia. Museum, hostpital maybe small compensations for Katyn vicitimes. Everything for Poland everything on Russians cost.

How about the number of Jews in the Stalinist 'security' apparatus responsible for the torture and murder of countless Poles?

How about Dzierzynski - Sword of revolution. Native Polish nobleman.

But Is He?
The organized Polish Communist movement was founded on December 16, 1918, when the PPS Lewica (the left faction of the Polish Socialist party) merged with the SDKPiL (Social Democracy of the Kingdom of Poland and Lithuania) to form the KPRP (Communist Workers' Party of Poland)

The general ideological outlook of the thus created Polish Communist party was to a large degree influenced by the ideological positions inherited with the theoreticians and leaders of the SDKPiL.

The leading figures here were Rosa Luxemburg, Leon Jogiches (Tyszko), Adolf Warszawski (Warski), Karol Sobelson (Radek), Jozef Unschlicht (Jurowski), Marcin Kasprzak, Julian Leszczynski (Lenski), Jakob Firstenberg (Hanecki), Julian Marchlewski (Karski), and Feliks Dzierzynski

Of these ten leaders, seven were Jewish, nine belonged to the intelligentsia, and only one, Kasprzak, was an "authentic" worker. Do You Know Who is Who?

- Why when I mention Jews-Stalinists you are asking about Dzierzynski? In order to distract from the uncomfortable for you topic?

Dzierzynski was a Russianised Polonophobe, a traitor of Poland. I've never found any evidence of him joining the Bolsheviks for Poland and Poles.

So Dzerzynski is just ONE prominent 'Pole' among the genocidal commies.

And now how about the numerous Jews in the Stalinist 'security' apparatus?

Ski mentions Polish Jews fighting for Poland in WWII and you spring out with Jews responsible for torture of countless Poles? Whats that all about?

I care less how he consider himself. Rotfeld was foreign minister in the same time when Kwasniewski was a president. They both were responsible also for Polish "eastern" policy.


It reminds me reaction of some American Jews when they read about Poles who saved Jews.

How about starting a new thread on Jews in Communist secret police or whatever and leaving this one to discuss Jews who fought alongside the Poles. I'm guessing there are a lot more Jews in the later category.

It is interesting that both anti-semites and Polonophobes don't like talking about Jews fighting alongside Poles. The former because it means that Jews fought and died to protect Poland, the latter because it means that Poles weren't anti-semitic enough to stop Jews joining the army and progressing to the rank of officer.

grow up and take your pathetic bigotry someplace else....

Thread title;
Jews-Officers in the Polish Armed Forces 1939-1945
see that,1939-1945.....not some old commies who came later,alongside plenty of non jewish commies in case your forgeting. Once again I get the suspision pizzy is actually a former party flunky desperatly trying to prove something.....

Your post show only your lack of knowledge of Polish politics. You don't even realize that person who started this thread went off-topic itself and thus my later comment was justified.

Also I'm curious how long it take you to finally understand that I'm not a nationalist...

WTF? Its got fcuk all to do with politics,its got everything to do with the usual boring fcukers with an axe to grind slagging off every Jew just because a few of them were commies,fcuking pathetic. Like someone else said,if you want to slag off jewish commies post or pre war,start another thread,leave this one to discusing wartime situations.


no,your neither nationalist or humanist,you are a you ist as far as most people can tell,as long as everything runs for your benafit and to your ideas the world is fine n dandy.

Look, it appears that ski and myself already explained to ourself our points. This is just you the one who is writing rubbish in some British street slang and misinterpreting my posting. Get over it.

Jewish Poles could mention many events with anti-semite background.
Maybe we should concentrate on positive sides of our multicultural state.

Brygady Bartoszowe ? Jewish units supporting Polish independence.
Jewish voluntary soldliers in all Polish up-rises.

1794

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berek_Joselewicz


1830
Warsaw Jewish Guards in Polish up-rise.



1863
The closest relationship in history. Majority of Polish society supports being equal. Several mixed marriages. Masive Jewish support for this up-rise. Jewish community organise international help form Jewish diaspora - weapons.

jstor.org/pss/3622458

1920
Jewish volutary Units in Polish-Bolshevik war.

1939- read main topic here

1989

Tadeusz Mazowiecki - first PM in free Poland ( of Jewish decent)

Mazowiecki was Jewish? I thought it was right wing propaganda...

Its called English,the language YOU have to speak for anyone to understand........


For shame that I should be under the immpresion you are a bigot and sort of obsesed with digging up any teeny bit of dirt on anyone or anything Jewish,how on earth could I have been so mistaken about your good and balanced self?

Does it matter if he is Jewish?

Mazowiecki ? Poznanski ? Gdański ? Warszawski ? He is fully assimialted Polish Jew unfortunately he isn't practising Jew who goes to snagogue.

Strange, because Mazowiecki has always been a confirmed Catholic, since 1950s.

It depends if you are talking about faith or ethinic group...