Quoting: Grzegorz_, Post #35
they even got special rights
Didn't know this.....why, what were they...how did the local population react?
I was studing a bit the issue, but am not any any expert... why ? Probably to make more of them come here as Poland needed more people. What right ? There were some, I think that at least for some time only Jews could own karczmy - a kind of bars/restaurants.
So, the populace and government, church though it ok to be anti-semitic? Or....more complex....
For most of time I was talking about there wasn't any Polish government, after Poland regained independence in 1918 the government definately wasn't anti-semitic, but after Piłsudski died in 1935 and quite radical politicians took over the government there were even a few anti-semitic laws passed, like limited access to the university education for Jews, but on the other hand someone could say that far worse things were going on in the southern states until 60's/70's. What the Catholic church thought about that ? I don't think that the church in general was "promoting anti-semitism", however of course there was a kind of "competition" and even now there are problems between religions, even between branches of Christianity. What the people thought ? These more patriotic oriented rather didn't like Jews, but rather not for who they were, but for what most of them were doing - didn't want to assimilate, often worked for invaders etc.
This is what I am trying to ascertain...ie are the history books correct, or selective.....was/is this taught in schools?
You mean in Polish schools ? Rather not, but people know that there were some problems and most are not so naive to think that all Poles were innocent and brave and that all Jews were bad. If you mean western history books, they usually show some bad things done by Poles without a wider context as a prove of "vast Polish anti-semitism". Why ? Because most of these "Holocaust studies" and such things are run by Jews and they are simply biased, other authors are usually quoting them and use their "reaserches" in own publications.
Why is this......what has your governement, media done to correct or bolster their own view?..........
And what can they do about It ? I was talking about things many Jews are unfortunately "promoting" in foreign states, especially USA and Canada.
I only quoted a small part of a review...so don't condemn him on this. His personal experience is as valuable and useful as anyone elses...frequently...more useful, as he isn't a full blown historian/government figure.
Well, I read many such "personal experiences" and let me have some doubts about many of them. For example I read once a speech of some "Holocaust survivor" given in some American school, that was a woman, who was a child during WW2 and she claims that when Germans came for them, she somehow escaped, but no Poles wanted to help her, so... she lived alone in a forest for 3 years - anybody who spent winter in Poland knows that It's simply not possible, especially in case of a child.
I can see your point...but another wrong...won't make it any better or right.....!!
Come on. You or me would do the same.
And to this I would add: has anyone ever known a poor Jew?
I'm 1/8 Jew and not rich unforunately. Maybe because 7/8 is that bad and "anti-semitic", that's why my "brothers" don't want to help me. :)
So you'd be equally dismissive of a Catholic priest being attacked....?....breathtaking....!
The point is that If a Catholic priest were attacked, you wouldn't hear about that and that means something.
