nd not all jews are rich and powerful. Someone said jews run America did they steal it? and who helped form Israel ONLY JEWS no. Many troops who fought to form Israel
Of course they are not.There are three branches of Jews,one european,one arabic and one african.The european branch(the ashkenazi) has actually the power.Jewish lobby is powerful in USA because the Jews get very good grades and finish top ranking universities becoming lwayers,doctors etc.In this way they gain a lot of power.
Germans had understood the way Jews come to power and how they avoided labor work.They thought the jewish bankers stole what the hard working german workers produced.
Well I do agree you shouldn't be imprisoned for research no matter how idiotic.
David Irwing is one of the most famous historians in world level.He has written excellent books and conducts thorough research.That is why the Jews are after him.
well,
I don't know where to even start.
I'm Jewish and live in Israel.
As a person that lives here, you cannot escape from having an opinion about the holocaust subject.
My grandparents lived in Poland before the ww2. When Hitler and the Nazis invade to Poland, They didn't start by killing Jews and sending them into death camps, the first policy was just to get the Jews out by immigration. So my grandparents luckily escape from Poland on the right time (took nothing with them)…
My grandma and grandpa lived in poverty in Russia (Siberia) till the war ended.
Except them and their parents and brothers, their whole family died in the extermination camps.
My opinion about polish and their acts during the holocaust is,
Well, I happened to think about it so many times, especially this year, I went out with a youth delegation to Poland.
I think it's a really big dilemma. I don't know if I act differently.
The polish people were under the Nazi constantly supervising. There was a death penalty if they help a Jewish people.
The best example to the fear they had is Majdanek. When I was there I could hardly believe, when I pictured myself the death camps, I pictured them far away from the people's eyes, from any civilization Like Auschwitz was. However the camp is simply inside Lublin! First I was angry about the people who went to work every day, with this horrible place beneath their nose… then I thought about it a little and understood.
The fact that the camp was there making sense, with this camp there, the polish people could see what will happened to them too if they help Jews and in this way to prevent it.
I don't think I would risk my life and my beloved people life's in order to save a stranger's life. I think I can understand the polish people that done nothing. Nevertheless I don't think I can understand the polish people who helped the Nazis when they wouldn't force to. Or start doing pogroms by their own mind.
When I were in Poland, the first place we've visit in was a town called Kielce, after the war Jews who survived the holocaust (mostly the death camps) returned to Kielce hoping maybe their relative survived and will get back and wait to the opportunity they will be able to enter Israel.
On July 4th, 1946 - eighteen months after the city was liberated by the soviet armies, a rumor spread in the city that in the building at no. 7 Planty street , polish children were being murdered by Jews who would use their blood for the Passover bread (Matzoth) (here is the right place to say, the matzoth are just the worse bread you will ever eat, I hate it, but I guarantee you that it isn't nothing else but it).
Within a short time crowds gathered before the building starting a bloody pogrom in which 42 Jews were massacred to death and twice as many wounded.
I can't justify it.
I can't justify hate against any nation.
However I don't hate poles. Not even close to this and even can say I love poles. Before I came to Poland, Our guard told us to be aware of anti Semitic people.
I've been talking to a polish boy in my age (17) for more than a half a year, so I sarcastically told him about it. He told me that the fact that polish are anti-Semitic is a stereotype of the 20's century. I believed him, didn't have any reason not to.
And when we were there, I think it proved itself. The polish people are more than kind and I don't have even one bad word to write about them.
Poland made such a good impression, I've promised myself I'll go back to visit there in the minute I'll finish my military service (you go to jail if you don't do it). And this time, without any death camps, ghettos and cemeteries.
There are people in my country that refuses coming even visit Poland, Mostly people who are survivors of the death camps. Auschwitz, Majdanek, Treblinka and the list still long.
I can't see how anyone can deny the holocaust. Well, I am bribed in this subject. But I can't see how all the death camps I've seen, the photos, all the evidences I've hear is a one big fat lie.
I don't know about the numbers, I wouldn't get into this argument. I don't think it really matters weather it's 3 million or 6 million Jews that have been murdered.
I can understand stereotypes. Not because there is true in them, because we all have stereotypes. Everyone is a little bit racist. We have to face this. But most of the stereotypes are wrong as we all humans. Their will be in any group of people people that are not even worth to called as human beings. There will always be greedy people, rich people, pure people, and manipulative people…
I don't think you can really say Jews are blablabla as well as I can't say the same about any other nation. It's just wrong.
I think you gotta know people before you judge them. That's why I can't judge the whole polish nation about what a little group of people have done. And as I said before, I don't think we can judge the polish people who done nothing to save Jews during the holocaust.
I can only admire the polish people who did help to save Jews by risking their life and their relative life's. I think that it really says something the fact that 50,000 people did something and did helped Jews. (and many more of them that have died because of that). This number is huge! If you consider the courage and superior values these people must have to do what they've done.
Poland has the highest number of Righteous Gentile in the world. We gotta remember this before judging them all.
And I'll have to go to sleep. Unfortunately there is still school to so =me of as (maybe it just me)
And I will apologize about the spelling and grammar mistakes right now. Hope it wasn't really bad.
good night :)
The best example to the fear they had is Majdanek. When I was there I could hardly believe, when I pictured myself the death camps, I pictured them far away from the people's eyes, from any civilization Like Auschwitz was. However the camp is simply inside Lublin! First I was angry about the people who went to work every day, with this horrible place beneath their nose… then I thought about it a little and understood.
1/3 of people killed there were Polish Goys. What people living near there could do ? Call the police ?
On July 4th, 1946...
Yes that was s*it, no excuse for that...
Grzegorz if you included the next sentence in your quote I think that was the point she was making
What people living near there could do ? Call the police ?
The fact that the camp was there making sense, with this camp there, the polish people could see what will happened to them too if they help Jews and in this way to prevent it.
I don't think I would risk my life and my beloved people life's in order to save a stranger's life. I think I can understand the polish people that done nothing.
away guy, I'll guess you've met some good people:)
I don't believe we are anyone chosen people... I don't even believe there is really a "we". Saying this will be a completely agreement with the master race...(well, not completely, but agree that there is a thing like characteristics that can be transferred according to religion or the born place...this is too ridiculous to write it down)…
I've read a Lenin's quote last week... he claimed that Judaism is not a nation and that Jews are only a group of people who survived because of the hate toward them.
Maybe he was right. That's why Israel is not like anyone imagine.
Most of the people here are not even close to be orthodox. I don't think I have been more than 3 times in a synagogue during my whole life.
And I'm a good example for the majority of my people.
and here I got completely out of the subject again. I really gotta stop in the right time...
Grzegorz, well, that is really exactly the point I've been trying to make.:)
