Polish Jews - they changed their Jewish surnames to Polish

My take is that the Puzzler went to Canada and failed. A lot of immigrants fail. I've had my failures too, and I was humiliated once or twice. But instead of bi.tching I got up and kept on going. I came to a different country but I didn't know the rules. Once I figured them out I began to stand form for myself, for my family and for my community (Polish or otherwise).

I've lived in the US and in Canada for over 20 years. I did come across comments that were negative of Poland and Poles, but these comments either came from fools (in which case no amount of confincing will change their minds), or I was able to repell them. I am perfectly capable of making negative comments about other nationalities too.

Overall, I haven't suffered any ethinc bias and I worked all over the US and in Canada as a consultant and I was often hired ahead of those who were born here. I worked with Aglos, East Indians, Chinese, Poles, Germans Latinos, Jews and dozens of other nationalities. At IBM my boss was a Jamaican. Yup, a black fella. The nicest and possibly the best boss I ever had. Very knowledgeable too. They were all great people and they were not the problem. The problem are people like you who, instead of concentrating on themselves and bettering their lives, they keep on blaming the whole world for all the "evils" for their personal failures.

Puzzler,
In early 1980's over 60% of Canadian citizens were born outside Canada, so who are you calling Canadians? On another forum you wrote you spent 10 years in Canada. If it took you so long to figure out Canada was not for you, then perhaps the issue is not with Canada but you? It really is good be be a little quicker on your feet. Life's not that long after all. Don't waste it by spending 10 years in a place you hated, and then another 10 b.itching about it.

Whatever... I hope you are not representing Magyar majority, otherwise i would be ashamed shamed related to you (i am finn, you know related languages vér=veri=blood, kéz=käsi=hand)

You really should chill out man !!!

This thread started out by giving a list of Polish public figures that are supposed to be Jewish. A couple of pages ago, someone convincingly showed that most of the names on the list are not Jewish and invited the forum participants to do the research themselves. It is symptomatic that none seem to have done so, which illustrates the fact that one-track-mind personalities believe what they want to believe regardless of the facts. An American comedian once said that 'the world can be divided into those that get it and those that don't' (cool vs. uncool, tolerant vs. intolerant, generous vs. ungenerous of spirit, liberal vs. anal, listening to arguments and shaping their views according to them vs. shaping the arguments to fit their prejuduces, etc). I'm sure you'll easily recognize which side you're on in this neat classification.

I also agree with the claim that most Catholics on these pages suffer from a pathological cognitive dissonance (Google it) of those who, on the one hand, hate Jews, but on the other pray to their God and apostles. This dissonance has long been explained as the Oedipal complex of a civilization which bears a subliminal grudge towards the tribe that gave them a monotheistic religion with high moral principles. Even though Christians have consciously accepted the religion's precepts, subconsciously, they resent the fact that they must repress their animal drives because of the strict moral discipline of Judaism.

Hate is a type of negative identification and a pathological state of mind but is so prevalent because it's a quick psychological fix for one's personal shortcomings and frustrations and an easy tool in the hands of the politicians for controlling the unthinking population. It's much easier to hate than to study, learn, tolerate, and better oneself. Unfortunately, a better part of the Polish nation has been anti-Semitic institutionally and culturally for hundreds of years, and for that reason, I can't say that I'm proud to be Polish.

I don't think it is about hating Jews as a religious body of people. It is more about distancing or condemning what this body of people have come to represent.

It is only human nature to be upset with someone who simply takes and takes and takes with no gratitude, and never gives in return.

I would say hypocracy is a lesser sin than taking whats not yours. I am sure you would be upset if someone took away your house, and ordered you to go and live in the garden shed. And while you lived in the shed with your family, they came and bulldozed it down. And that is after they had already cut off your electricity and water, and their kids had fired into your shed. I am sure I would be upset and would hate, but it would not stop me from praying.


Is this the same tribe that was kicked out of Egypt and ordered the crucifixion of Jesus ?


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Please define Anti-Semitic...? If you are not aware it is a term coined by Zionists to become the worlds biggest victims. It is used against anyone who dare question anything the Jews say or do. A Semite is actually someone from the middle-eastern language group.

And by the way, this "anti-semitism", its been here for thousands of years. Starting with Moses leading the exodus as the tribe was kicked out of Egypt...and ending with the "holocaust". In between there was the the German Crusade of 1096, Spanish Inquisition, eviction from Spain in 1492, the expulsion from Portugal in 1497, from England in 1290, various other pogroms in many countries. For the full list as seen on a Jewish website please see:

simpletoremember.com/vitals/HistoryJewishPersecution.htm


Well Done!!!!This is exactly what the parasites want you to do...to lose your pride & dignity so you dont care anymore while they privatize our hospitals, railways, energy companies.

The Talmud, which is a collection of Jewish laws and traditions promoting the Jewish race, states the Jews are humans and rest of you are Goym or animal in human form created by their tribal god to serve them.



Yes, he is so full of tolerance.

It's funny for me to even debate about this.

Well observed...I didn't notice it....you really brought out the animal in him lol :-)

What magic brought them where they are ? I don't care if they're Jewish, they are Polish, that's all. What matters is that they are doing good jobs, and that Poland is good, and getting better everyday. These Jews studied and worked to become part of the government.

To finish, they are not all Jews anyway. Tusk is not for example.

;)

Its not magic...its your ignorance, i dont care attitude coupled with their deceptive zionist goals.

They have a plan...what do you/we have ? That's why its time to WAKEUPPOLAND and smell the lies and deception!!!

While you are happy to lay bricks, be a mechanic, work in fields, work in a factory....the jew will never accept such jobs. He must be in a revenue generating or customer facing job: money lending, estate agencies, lawyers, doctors, politician etc....WAKEUP!!!!


Do you know how hard it is to become a lawyer for the average polish non-jew ? Once you have completed the 6 years of studying law, you will need to pay an unaffordable amount by the average polish family...yes pay a law firm to give you an apprenticeship for another 2 years. This makes it impossible unless you are already rich or are jewish.

And we know that most lawyers are jewish...so they tend to only "take their own". As such the jews who study hard get somewhere, while for those that are not jewish it becomes an almost impossibility.

Ask yourself why is it like this...? Its to exclude non-jews from the lawmaking of this country.

hahah LoL they have plan :)

for example Dorn (ex minister in Kacz gov) ;) who has jewish origin and his new wife (4th or 5th) converted him into Catholic religion :) oh yes he has "plan" to sell Poland. When we discusse we should do it on realistic level. We can discusse about Israel policy, or lobby in USA (Cubanians have their lobby too) or we can discusse about history but ideas like "they have the plan" are rather sick ... thats my private opinion ...

Tell me, poor ignorant dude, what is their plan.


You are taking few examples to generalize ! Did you know that there are middle-class and poor Jews too ?

What is for you the definition of "anti-semitism" ?...

I know its hard to believe...but let mee ask you a question...?

Do you think Bush has any ACTUAL say in the actions and decisions he performs ?

What do you mean ?

I totally respect your opinion because I too used to think like this....do me one favour: Pick any industry...find the top 10 companies in that industry. Then check how many of the top level management or ceo/ownners are Jewish. Just try it...you have nothing to lose.


I have given you a very good example so either you can read more into it or you can ignore it...

Also, i cant type so fast so let me take you to a link. PLEASE PLEASE go and just read a few of the articles. You will be shocked like I was. Everything will start to fit in.

iamthewitness.com


I mean he is a puppet.... Would you agree ?

Yeah maybe...at least he's as smart as a puppet... ;)

I already went through this...it is a deceptive term as it is nothing to do with semitsm, and it is used to propogate that jews are the worlds biggest victims.

Wake up Poland, I went there already. You are a Nazi

No. I am Ashkenazi ;-)

WakeupPoland, please clarify your stance.

I am a Jewish Pole who emigrated to Isreal 19 years ago, almost to the day. I am middle class, and never had any relatives with high administrative positions. I find you and people of your same opinion to be a very disturbing trend. The U.S is not run by Jews, and G. Bush is not a puppet.

Regards,
Waldek

Every puppet has a puppeteer...who is pulling his strings ??? Ask yourself...if you dont know go and find out.

Then ask yourself if Bush is a puppet...what are or were our Twin Teletubby leaders ?

Waldek,

you are not a real jew then if you don't like money and aren't rich

The U.S is not run by Jews, and G. Bush is not a puppet.

Alan Greenspan (ex-fed reserve head) , Ben Bernanke (fed reserve head), Michael Chertoff (homeland secretary)...i cant type them all....

And G. Bush is not a Puppet???....Oh I am !! Sorry he is one of the smartest men on this planet.


So what are you trying to say ?

If some of you really think what you say about Jews, you obviously haven't met any.

You are a disgrace to your country Wakeup. You fill their minds with hate towards us Jews, who worked so hard in your country for so many centuries and filled the Polish coffers with money. If not for us, you would still be sleeping in rawhide tents and living in your own filth.

Ducks......


Generalization.

2 years ago in France, a Jew were kidnapped, bad treated, and killed. The reason : he was Jewish, so he must be rich. The truth was that he was very poor. Cruel story.

I have checked names of WIG20 (the bigest comoanies listed on Warszawa stock exchange ) ... you are wrong


Bush is idiot, but I understand waht do you mean... I think that Americans started tu usnderstand taht busniness of USA isnt equal of business of Israel. Proves ? Former american president book (Jimmi Carter mentioned before) ... it is proces but americans started to understand some fact ... I agre that in USA they have really stron Israel lobby, which harms USA interests and Americans cant critisize them because of political corectness ... but it isnt any conspirancy ... there is cubanian lobby too

That you generalize.

What I'm trying to say is that, contrary to your previous generalization that THERE ARE NO JEWS IN THE MIDDLE CLASS, there actually is.

pls give me the list I will prove you worng...!!

Wakeup, face it, you must have somewhere down the road, met a Jew who left a bad impression on you, and you can't let it go. The truth is, were NOT ALL THE SAME, and we don't need people like you spreading your paranoid hatred all across the internet.

here you have list of companies, check presidents