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Trzaska Coat of Arms


Domino  
9 Feb 2009 /  #1
I found that my family's name is included in a list of families who "use?" the Trzaska coat of arms. It is really very pretty, but... Can anyone tell me why there is a 'main' family name, and then a list of families who use it as well? How does one find out what is the proper usage? Or even if one is "entitled" to use such a thing? I found a website, but most of it is in Polish. How well were records kept of these people? Where can I find more information?

Thank you
plk123 8 | 4,149  
9 Feb 2009 /  #2
Can anyone tell me why there is a 'main' family name,

trzaski?
Prince 15 | 590  
9 Feb 2009 /  #3
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trzaska_coat_of_arms

"156 names altogether: Balukiewicz, Bałukiewicz, Betko, Białostocki, Biały, Bielecki, Bielski , Błażejewski, Błażejowski, Błażewski, Bogusz, Brunowski, Buczkiewicz, Buczkoewicz, Buczkowicz, Budkiewicz, Butkiewicz, Chojnacki, Chojniski, Choromański, Choynacki, Chrząszczewski, Chrzczonowski, Cierzpięta, Ciskowski, Ciszkowski, Czarnołęski, Czusołowicz, Czusułowicz, Dłuski, Drężeński, Droszacki, Drożecki, Drożewski, Dubrski, Dudkiewicz, Durbski, Durpski, Durski, Dutkiewicz, Dziedzina, Filipkowski, Filuński, Glinicki, Glinka, Goliniński, Goliński, Gołuchowski, Gołyński, Gutowski, Janczewski Glinka, Jarzyna, Jarzyński, Kleczkowski, Knoll, Konopacki, Kotowski, Kotutawicz, Kotutewicz, Kotwicki, Krajewski, Kufałowicz, Kurnoch, Kurnochowski, Lubiejewski, Lubiewski, Luśnia, £apiński, £ukowicz, £yczkowski, Mejszer, Meydalon, Mgorowski, Michalski, Michałowski, Miłocki, Mokowski, Nagórka, Nagórski, Nartow, Nartowski, Nartowt, Niemierowski, Niemirowski, Otwocki, Palmowski, Pancerzyński, Papleński, Papliński, Pątkowski, Pielasz, Podbielski, Podsędkowski, Polaczek, Ponikiewski, Popławski, Poszyliński, Przychodzki, Rojecki, Rojewski, Rotowski, Rycicki, Ryczycki, Rykaczewski, Sczucki, Sieklucki, Słupecki, Sobiesand, Sokołowski, Szczucki, Szwejkowsk, Szwejkowski, Szygowski, Szygowski na Szygach, Świecikowski, Świejko, Świejkowski, Świeykowski, Tarchomiński, Truskowski, Truszkowski, Trzaska, Trzasko-Durski, Trzaskowski, Trzonkowski, Trzonowski, Trzśskowski, Tymczenko, Tyski, Tyszczenko, Tyszka, Wawrzyszewski, Wendrogowski, Wędrogowski, Wieluński, Wilewski, Wileziński, Wiszniewski, Wiśniewski, Włoszczewski, Włoszczowski, Wolszleger, Wołkanowski, Wycbieszyński, Wyleżeński, Wyleżyński, Zabielski, Zakrzewski, Zakrzowski, Zastruski, Zimoszarski, Zorawski, Żórawski, Żurawski"
David_18 68 | 982  
9 Feb 2009 /  #4
Can anyone tell me why there is a 'main' family name, and then a list of families who use it as well?

Because The main family were normaly the founders of the coat ( They gained it by the king for showing courage in battle, or something like that ).

In Poland they used a clan system. Many families could have the same coat of arm without being relatives by blood. You could just simply marry someone who belonged to a clan and by that legaly use it.

The man line didn't change coat of arm after the a marriage ( If the man didn't have one when he married a noble woman, then her family simply adopted him). When a Woman got married she changed her coat of arm to the one her man used.

How does one find out what is the proper usage? Or even if one is "entitled" to use such a thing?

Today you can't use you Coat of arm in any way besides maybe join a nobility society or something and use it there. And you can't use any titles today since all the titles were given by Kings outside Poland ( The polish kings could not give any titles, since the king were choosen by the polish nobility, and by law all the polish nobles were equal ) and expired after a curtain time.

All szlachta privileges were finally abolished after the Second World War under the communist regime of the People's Republic of Poland.
Prince 15 | 590  
9 Feb 2009 /  #5
David_18

You are very wrong at many (most) points . :)
David_18 68 | 982  
9 Feb 2009 /  #6
Correct me then.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
9 Feb 2009 /  #7
Many families could have the same coat of arm without being relatives by blood.

True.
OP Domino  
12 Feb 2009 /  #8
David_18: David_18

You are very wrong at many (most) points . :)

Prince, please clarify what you mean. Does this mean, then, I'm related to 3/4 ths of Poland...whew...talk about a long Christmas card list!
Prince 15 | 590  
12 Feb 2009 /  #9
Well my ancostrs gave for many other families right to use my coat of arms. They had to be good enought :)

As to aristocracy privilages .... after 1918 when Poland regained indendence there was so special treatment for nobility. Maybe only the fact that aristicrats were ususaly richer than others gave them more power.

Polish kings could give titles.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
13 Feb 2009 /  #10
The legend suerroudbnign the emegrence of the Trzaska coat of arms traces back to one of the many battles waged by Poland’s by King Boleslaw the Brave (992-1025). When an enemy rushed towards the King with drawn sword, a knight named Trzaska (which incidentally means splinter) shielded the king and struck at the attacker’s neck with such force that his sword shattered almost at the hilt. The King, quickly gave Trzaska his own sword and with it the knight hacked away at the enemy until surrounded by a circle thick with bodies. Finally that sword also broke from overuse. As a reward for his courage and fidelity, the king granted him a coat of arms and named it after him. The c-o-a depicts the two upward-pointing sword hilts separated by a golden crescent on a blue shield.
OP Domino  
14 Feb 2009 /  #11
Prince said: Well my ancostrs gave for many other families right to use my coat of arms.

But how does one go find these anscentors. I'm running into brick walls all over the place, which causes me to become more persistent. Okay, down right stubborn, and not want to give up looking.

P.S. Wanna share a picture of your coat of arms with the class?
David_18 68 | 982  
15 Feb 2009 /  #12
But how does one go find these anscentors. I'm running into brick walls all over the place, which causes me to become more persistent. Okay, down right stubborn, and not want to give up looking.

I guess you are from the US.

If i were you, i would hire a polish agent who could do all the dirty work. Like tracking down your family name and find your ancestors.

This is of course the expensive option.

Or else you can do all that by yourself. But that would take you a while. Since you have to search in the state and church archive.

Does this mean, then, I'm related to 3/4 ths of Poland...whew...talk about a long Christmas card list!

Aloot of people in Poland don't even know which coat of arm/Clan they belong too. And i guess since the population growth for the past 600 years, aloot of people share the same coat of arm.

You are for sure related to about 600 familes by the coat of arm you share, but not by blood. So skip the Chrismas cards :P.
Prince 15 | 590  
15 Feb 2009 /  #13
But how does one go find these anscentors. I'm running into brick walls all over the place, which causes me to become more persistent. Okay, down right stubborn, and not want to give up looking.

If you don't know :) You are propably not so noble ... noble :)

I have been posting mine coat of arms in my fathers line :)

This is my coat of arms in my mothers line :)

I am sure about my orign.

:)
David_18 68 | 982  
15 Feb 2009 /  #14
@Prince

May i ask what's your fathers surname? and your mothers surname that she used before getting married to your father?
OP Domino  
17 Feb 2009 /  #16
Ha ha ha..Prince you funny man. It wouldn't bother me the least if there was noble with a small 'n' or big 'N',...or none at all. I just figure with a listing like that, my name would be easier to trace. So don't worry about having to raise the draw bridge...yet! ;)

Took a look at your mom's side, interesting logo. Where (what thread) have you posted your father's?

David 18, I need an excuse to visit Poland. I just need to know where in Poland to head off for.

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