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I'M SO SURPRISED BY THIS SALARY FOR IBM in WROCLAW 3000 ZL gross


ssnawin - | 4
21 Aug 2015 #121
Merged: IBM Wroclaw offering 6500 gross

Hi everyone,

IBM Wroclaw is offering a contract job in Wroclaw, I'm having 2 years of experience in SAP BASIS & they are offering 6500 gross. I have few doubts..

1.Can anyone let me know how much net amount will I get.

2.I'm married but I'm planning to come alone. Is the salary sufficient for 1 person.

3. where can I take apartment in Wroclaw for reasonable price, If everything works out for me.

4. What is the living expenditure in Wroclaw.

5. Can we get our Indian food in Wroclaw.

6. If I plan to change the job, Is it easy to get another job...

It will great help for me if you can help me......
DominicB - | 2,709
21 Aug 2015 #122
IBM Wroclaw is offering a contract job in Wroclaw, I'm having 2 years of experience in SAP BASIS & they are offering 6500 gross.

The median salary for a SAP consultant in Poland is about 13000 PLN gross. The median salary in the United States is more than double that. Sorry, but it appears as if you are being severely underpaid, which is not surprising because IBM has a reputation for being very stingy with wages in Poland.

You would be able to live as a single male on about 4400 PLN net a month. A modest one-bedroom apartment would cost about 2000 PLN with rent, administration fees and utilities included. Food and routine household supplies will set you back about 1000 for a rather modest lifestyle, and more than that if you smoke, drink or eat out often.

That basically leaves very little in savings for a rainy day or money that you can send home to your family. Significant savings will not be possible.

My advice would be to turn down this offer. Never rely on job websites or recruiters when looking for a job. Instead, develop a network of real live people in the field that you know face to face. The best jobs are always advertised by word of mouth only. Jobs advertised on the internet are the table scraps.

Also, forget about Poland. Wages are significantly lower than in the richer western European countries and the English speaking countries, the relative cost of living is significantly higher, and your savings potential, which is what you should be primarily concerned about, is downright abysmal.

Get out there and actively look for a job by talking to people face to face, and forget about the table scraps on the internet. Don't pay attention to random emails from recruiters. They rarely have quality jobs to offer. Another strategy is to fire off 500 CV's and generic cover letters to department managers at companies in the country or countries you would like to work. NOT to HR departments, as that would be a complete waste of time. You might only get 10 or 20 replies, but most of those will be for quality jobs.

Also, for God's sake, have a qualified native speaker FROM OUTSIDE OF INDIA edit and polish your CV and cover letter. It's a small cost for something so important.
ssnawin - | 4
22 Aug 2015 #123
Thank you very much for your advice DominicB, I too knew that it is under paid. But what I was thinking is after going to Poland in 6 months based on this job, Can I shift to some other company If I was not satisfied with IBM is my doubt.

Getting SAP job in Poland is it tuff?
DominicB - | 2,709
22 Aug 2015 #124
As I said above, Poland is probably not the best place for you. Even if you did get a better job in Poland, your wages and your savings potential would be much lower than in the richer countries of western Europe or in the English speaking countries. With SAP experience, you should have little trouble find a good job in a richer country, so I can't see much point in you coming to Poland at all. Focus your time and energy on finding a better job in a richer country.
jon357 71 | 20,376
22 Aug 2015 #125
Hi Ssnawin, don't let yourself be put off too much by DominicB's comments, he's actually an American who worked in a completely different field and now seems to enjoy coming on here and deterring people from coming to Poland from India etc for whatever reason. Here are some answers to your questions:

1.Can anyone let me know how much net amount will I get.

Depends on a few factors, however it should be around 4500pln
wynagrodzenia.pl/kalkulator.php

2.I'm married but I'm planning to come alone. Is the salary sufficient for 1 person.

Yes

3. where can I take apartment in Wroclaw for reasonable price, If everything works out for me.

Wroclaw isn't an expensive city, however you'll find that rents in the historic centre are more expensive. You will be able to find an apartment with easy travel to your work for a reasonable price. IBM is in the eastern part of the city and is easy to find an apartment near.

gumtree.pl/s-mieszkania-i-domy-do-wynajecia/wroclaw/mieszkanie/v1c9008l3200114a1dwp1?nr=2

4. What is the living expenditure in Wroclaw.

That depends very much on you, whether you like to go out much and go shopping a lot, restaurants etc. 2000zl is a good figure however you could spend less or more.

5. Can we get our Indian food in Wroclaw.

There are some Indian restaurants. I'm not sure about shops, however you can get Indian spices, prepared mixes etc online within Poland. There will be other Indians at IBM who can advise what they do.

6. If I plan to change the job, Is it easy to get another job...

No - you'd need another work permit and an employer willing to sponsor this.
ssnawin - | 4
22 Aug 2015 #126
Thank you jon357 for answering all my queries,

Will I get shared apartment in Wroclaw, I'm not a social person, So how much I can save per month approx. If I live normal life in Wroclaw.

So, You mean that getting another job is not possible. I feel this is an entry pass to Europe by this job.

My main target was to get into Germany as there is so much demand for SAP.
jon357 71 | 20,376
22 Aug 2015 #127
Will I get shared apartment in Wroclaw, I'm not a social person,

For 1500 to 2000 you will get a 2 room apartment. You can find 1 room ones for a little less.

So how much I can save per month approx. If I live normal life in Wroclaw.

That depends a lot on you, however it is possible to save some money each month on that amount.

So, You mean that getting another job is not possible. I feel this is an entry pass to Europe by this job.

My main target was to get into Germany as there is so much demand for SAP.

No. The work permit is specific to one job. It does mean that you can travel to Germany for interviews, however you can't just switch jobs within Poland. If you get a job in Germany, you would need a German work permit.
ssnawin - | 4
22 Aug 2015 #128
Thank you very much Jon, for clearling all my doubts. I hope Poland will give good start in my career.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
22 Aug 2015 #129
5. Can we get our Indian food in Wroclaw.

Mostly, yes. There's one small Indian stand in Centrum Handlowe Borek, spices are easy to obtain in many places and you won't struggle.
alain.pirau
25 Oct 2015 #130
Hello every ,

I got a job at IBM Wroclaw for 13000 PLN Gross monthy
Could you please let me know is this salary for a family of 2 persons?

Best regards
jon357 71 | 20,376
25 Oct 2015 #131
Yes, it is a good salary for a couple to live on.
alain.pirau
25 Oct 2015 #132
Thanks jon357for your response!
This definitely encourages my wife and me to move there.
I'm sorry for the incorrect form of my previous question. I wanted to ask if a monthly 13000 PLN gross salary is enough for a couple to live on.
Angry Pole1
25 Oct 2015 #133
Hi Alan,
Could you please give some insight on the what line of work are you in? Just curious what kind of job are they paying 13k PLN for.
Mr.Met
9 Jan 2016 #134
Hi everyone, i will take manager interview with IBM Poland for Windows / vmware System administrator vacancy. How much salary is usually pay for this position at IBM Poland or in other organizations. My job experience is 5 year as Microsoft System Administrator, Exchange Server and vmware Administrator. My current sallary is 2000 euro.
Ms.RCT
28 Feb 2017 #135
@alain.pirau, were you offered a SAP Basis role in IBM Poland for that monthly income? How many years of experience do you have in SAP Basis during that time?


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