How much salary required for family of 4 in Poznan to live comfortly

Hi,

Please suggest and guide me, that I will be moving from Hyderabad,India to Poznan as part of my job, now I want to know how much salary required with wife and 2 kids (2nd class and 5th class), I also want to know the English teaching schools. I have total 17 years of experience in IT industry, how much salary I can ask for poznan.

Thanks,
Kalyan. C

@ksharmac

First of all, you have your relocation expenses, travel, visa and residency permits to pay for. That will amount to about 1000 to 2000 PLN per month for a family of four. (Total relocation costs to and from Poland, door to door, amortized over twelve months).

A two-bedroom (three room) apartment will cost you 2500 to 3500 PLN, all inclusive (rent, administration fees and all utilities except internet/ phone/TV).

Food and routine household items will cost 2000 to 3000 for a family of four. Less if you cook and eat every meal at home from inexpensive Polish ingredients, more if you cook with more expensive ingredients, or eat, drink or snack away from home.

Budget at least 500 PLN a month for clothing. This is one thing that is not cheap in Poland, especially children's clothing. Your whole family is going to require good winter clothing and solid shoes.

Your spouse will be unable to work, and will need to be kept occupied so that she doesn't go crazy. Budget generously for that, or she will want to go back to India. There isn't much for an Indian woman to do in Poland. There is no Indian community, and very, very few Indian women that she will be able to socialize with. English is not widely spoken so it will be difficult to socialize with the locals.

Then there is recreation, hobbies, vacation and other travel. Depending on your requirements, this can be a major expense, especially if it involves traveling back to India.

Then there is school. A good English-language school is very expensive in Poland. Up to 4000 PLN a month per child. I don't know what is available in Poznań. Other posters can fill you in.

Last of all, add the amount you wish to save and/or send back home each month. This is where Poland falls short. Savings potential is much, much less than in richer countries. A reasonable minimum for a family of four would be 4000 PLN.

Frankly, because schooling is so expensive and savings potential are so low, there is generally little sense in a mid-career professional dragging a family to Poland unless they are very well compensated (20,000 PLN a month or more). Wages like that go to senior management, administrators and high-level consultants or specialists.

If you are not making that kind of money, better to look for better paying jobs in richer countries. Ignore recruiters, consultants and websites. The best way to find a good job is by word of mouth, face to face in the real world. Build up your real-world network of professional contacts and use them to help you find a better job. Recruiters and websites get the table scraps that no one else wants.

You might want to consider leaving the family at home and coming alone. It will be much cheaper to upkeep your family in India than in Poland.

Thank you Dominic for detailed explanation.

@DominicB

Can you please tell me the same situation in Wroclaw, is $2000 net salary enough for family with 4 members or I need to ask my employer for more?

Thanks in advance.

@keon1

Wrocław is a bit more expensive than Poznań. You will need a lot more than $2000 a month to live comfortably as a family of four in Wrocław. Double that, at least. A good English-language school will cost $1000 a month per child alone. That will consume your entire income.

Same advice I gave above. Find a better-paying job in a richer country. Forget about Poland unless you are making $5000 gross a month or more with a family of four.

@DominicB

Thank you so much. I'm spending much time these day to read about Wroclaw but it's better to listen to people like you, it helps me so much.

Yes, the international school costs about $1k as you said. But how about these school, they cost only $1k/month and they're also teach english dspatut.fem.org.pl/rekrutacja/informacje-o-platnosciach/ (primary), this one dgatut.fem.org.pl/rekrutacja/#oplaty (middle) and this one mlo.fem.org.pl/rekrutacja/#oplaty (high school)? does their fee on their website already include food, textbooks, etc.?

Please tell me can this plan be changed up/down?
(by PLN & per month):
- for 2 children study: 2150
- flat & electricity, water...: 3050
- food: 3000
- transport: 300 - we have car and we can take it along (?)
Total = 8500

The company will pay private health insurance for me and my family, so don't we need to pay for doctor and medicine in case if any member of family is sick?

Thank you so much, if we have chance, I will want to drink a cup of coffee with you :)

I mean they cost only 1000 PLN / month.

@keon1

That school is designed for Polish students who want to learn English, not for foreigners who don't speak Polish. Your children would have a difficult time following the curriculum as most of the instruction is in Polish.

No matter how you cut it, 8000 PLN a month for a foreign professional family with two school-age children is not going to fund a comfortable life. Forget about a car, and, more importantly, forget about significant savings.

Take my advice to Ksharmac above and focus on finding a better-paying job in a richer country using your network of real-world personal professional contacts.