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How To Study In Poland and stay with my GF? Inability to move to Poland looks stupid.


OWELL
10 Sep 2011 #31
You haven't even met her and you "fell in love" without even having met her in the flesh and now you're talking about marrying her???

I know couple of Indians who came to meet Polish girls who they met via internet but all ended up falling apart but staying in EU.The most important is for them to stay in EU and not that LOVE.

Why didn't you stay in India and study there and then get a job and develop your own country?

LOL! develop the country pulling RICKSHAW?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,839
10 Sep 2011 #32
Why didn't you stay in India and study there and then get a job and develop your own country?

he is in Turkey, not India..:)
EdWilczynski 3 | 98
10 Sep 2011 #33
he is in Turkey, not India..:)

I quoted 2 people.....

First the original poster the other being that buffoon hansiaczek
Seanus 15 | 19,706
10 Sep 2011 #34
Third world status is not purely based on GDP. There are many criteria involved. Saudi Arabia is (was?) classed as third world but it isn't a poor country.

Turkey is not a third world country.
entitled
10 Sep 2011 #35
he is in Turkey, not India..:)

HAHAHA OP doesn't want to look stupid and the two above you prove its the best place for him. Developed their countries by leaving them behind.
EdWilczynski 3 | 98
10 Sep 2011 #36
HAHAHA OP doesn't want to look stupid and the two above you prove its the best place for him.

You completely ignore the fact that repsonses were aimed at 2 seperate posters for very different reasons.

I made no mention of the OP's origins or the Political Rights, Civil Liberties, Income, Poverty, Human Development, Freedom of Information of his country.

Ah feck it......X-factors on...
OP kriczjak 1 | 5
11 Sep 2011 #37
I was just asking for an opportunity to have my education in Poland. Just needed some help about this from who may know something about that.

Not World War 3 or insults.
modafinil - | 418
11 Sep 2011 #38
3rd world is a backwords(sic) term since the demise of the 2nd world. Just developing or developed.
Might be the subject of my first thread -
Poland: Developing or Developed?
gumishu 11 | 5,629
11 Sep 2011 #39
it looks like the 2nd world is not gone just the notions need to be shifted
OP kriczjak 1 | 5
11 Sep 2011 #40
So you think there is no foundation in Poland to provide me with a scholarship, right?
Midas 1 | 571
11 Sep 2011 #41
In the region of 700 euro/month?

You are kidding, right?

You do realise that it is more than some Polish families make in a month, yet have to pay rent and feed three or four mouths from?

No, there isn't a foundation in Poland that will pay you that kind of money because you consider yourself brilliant and if there was one it would be swarming with Polish applicants since stipends for academic achievement in Poland rarely exceed 80 euro/month.

Disregarding TS for a moment I simply love this attitude:

I'm 17, I just LOOOOOVEEE your country and I'm SOOOOO brilliant... now pay up.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
11 Sep 2011 #42
So you think there is no foundation in Poland to provide me with a scholarship, right?

There are. However, you'll have to be truly brilliant and be of value to Poland. In short, you'll have to be someone. If you're serious about this girl, do your BA in Turkey, get the highest grade, do a lot of important research for free and become someone - then someone might give you 700 euro/month for your studies.
Midas 1 | 571
11 Sep 2011 #43
Delpia, You are aware that PhD stipends awarded to exceptionally skilled and gifted students in the UK usually do not exceed 1000 pounds a month? In Poland I doubt PhD's get more than 1000 ZLOTY per month.

This kid is daydreaming.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
11 Sep 2011 #44
Of course, that's why I'm saying that if he wants this kind of cash, he needs to be incredible - he has to be someone that will change the world with his research.

This kid is daydreaming.

He'll get over it ;)

Most Polish students could only imagine getting over 3000zl/month for their studies!
pawian 177 | 14,506
11 Sep 2011 #45
Sorry, foreigners who come to Poland for a longer stay have to possess their own funds.
dr_rabbit 5 | 90
12 Sep 2011 #46
For all those talking about 1st world and 3rd world (which are redundant cold-war definitions), Turkey was a first world nation, being a member of NATO since 1952, while Poland was a second world nation, being a founding member of the Warsaw pact.

For the Original Poster: most of us are (un)lucky enough to fall in love a couple of times in our late teens, and think it is the real deal. 2 things you need to do:

(1) go to Poland for a holiday and have a great time with your girlfriend.

(2) keep being a studious kid, keep dreaming, talk to teachers and your school about career paths and scholarships.

Millions of Turkish people have emigrated to Europe in the last century, and if you are persistent and smart you will also be able to. Nothing is going to shoot down a romance quicker than a guy with no money, no connections, no qualifications and no job prospects. My Polish wife and I started, but the reason I managed to sustain it was not emotions and attraction, but money, jobs, patience and qualifications (same for her, too).

However, you don't have to do all that in Poland or Turkey. I'd suggest looking into studying in Germany - perhaps Berlin. You'd have the benefit of an established community of Turkish people for support and advice, and more extensive and potentially more financially viable exchange arrangements as a student. Check out this page on Deustcher Akademischer Austausch Dienst:

daad.de/stipendien/en/index.en.html?land=14

If she is the one, you may be able to get married and get a visa: however I'd seriously doubt that would be your best option. I reckon studying in Germany is your best option, if you are as good as you say you are. If you think your relationship would grow and flourish while you were a poor-ass non-polish-speaking student living in Poznan, I think it would flourish even more if you showed some initiative and made your own viable plan. She could join you, or you could see eachother every second weekend and thus figure out if its worth it.

And if it doesn't work out, if you study in Germany you're still on the way to a good European career. If it doesn't work out in Poznan, I think you are far more likely to end up with no money and no friends, half way through a qualification you don't really want, having used up all your family favours and exhausted yourself.

Anyway, just my 2 cents!
Midas 1 | 571
12 Sep 2011 #47
For all those talking about 1st world and 3rd world (which are redundant cold-war definitions), Turkey was a first world nation, being a member of NATO since 1952, while Poland was a second world nation, being a founding member of the Warsaw pact.

Or one could turn this around and say Turkey has been whining to get into EU for ages and is constantly being shot down, because - surprise, surprise - it doesn't meet the criteria which often fit rather well into what defines a developed country. So far Turkey has closed 1 acquis chapter out of 33 and its been working on it since 1987 ( date of petition ).

Poland on the other hand is already in the EU.
dr_rabbit 5 | 90
12 Sep 2011 #48
OECD membership is the basic yardstick of being a developed country. While I agree that Poland is more economically advanced than Turkey, EU accession criteria are not necessarily the best measure of a developed country. Of course, some of them most certainly are, but closure of acquis chapters is a political as well as an economic exercise. Slovenia held up the closure of acquis chapters for Croatia for political purposes, for example.
Midas 1 | 571
12 Sep 2011 #49
Slovenia held up the closure of acquis chapters for Croatia for political purposes, for example.

And who is holding 30 or so acquis chapters open for Turkey?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,839
12 Sep 2011 #50
I'd suggest looking into studying in Germany - perhaps Berlin

sensible suggestion.!!!
dr_rabbit 5 | 90
13 Sep 2011 #51
And who is holding 30 or so acquis chapters open for Turkey?

Your continued discussion of this is off topic: we're talking about options for this guy to be with his polish girlfriend.

However, of 35 acquis chapters, 2 have nothing to adopt, 5 are aligned with acquis, and 17 are further efforts needed. Of the remaining 11, 8 are "considerable effort needed", and three are "alignment at early stage". And yes, negotiations on a number of chapters are frozen essentially by political processes, which while legitimate, are much more a reflection of political disputes rather than economic conditions. Turkey's slow progress through the accession process fundamentally comes down to two factors: its very large population, and its geographic location 90% in Asia Minor.

None of these matters are relevant to the young man's questions about how he might be with his Polish girlfriend. If you have nothing to add but racial generalisations and poorly informed, irrelevant analysis of the relationship of Turkey to the EU, then you should keep out of this discussion and let people who are actually interested in helping and informing others give the guy some advice.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,443
13 Sep 2011 #52
agree, Midas is just spamming as usual.

to OP- look for opportunities and don't listen to anybody who is judging you on this thread- it is your life. Good luck:). It is a free world although some want to tell you that it isn't.

There must be some private money for you to study- you have to find the source and if you are really looking you will find it.
Midas 1 | 571
13 Sep 2011 #53
While I am a fan of secular Turkey ( other alternatives aren't to my liking ) I must say you're completely off your rocker.

If a candidate has completed 1 out of 33 if I recall correctly requirements in 20+ years, then they're simply a lousy candidate or they're unwilling to make any real concessions - it is as simple as that. Sugarcoat it all you want, that's the logical conclusion.

The funny part is that most of Eastern European candidate states that made it into the EU in 2004 weren't really that much better off than Turkey when they started.
southern 75 | 7,096
13 Sep 2011 #54
Maybe if the young Turk made his way to Sultan's harem his opportunities would advance.
dr_rabbit 5 | 90
13 Sep 2011 #55
I must say you're completely off your rocker.

22/33 are in or close to alignment, but your posts are continual off-topic rubbish. You have nothing to add to this guys question
Midas 1 | 571
13 Sep 2011 #56
22/33 are in or close to alignment, but your posts are continual off-topic rubbish.

And they've been "close to alignment" for the past 10 or 15 years...

You have nothing to add to this guys question

Frankly, I was probably the most helpful person in this thread.

The quicker he's told he's making wrong assumptions the better.
dr_rabbit 5 | 90
13 Sep 2011 #57
And they've been "close to alignment" for the past 10 or 15 years...

Correct, held up by EU political processes more than domestic Turkish economic factors. I don't think its likely to move on further, either.

Frankly, I was probably the most helpful person in this thread.

The quicker he's told he's making wrong assumptions the better.

Lots of people told him that he was making wrong assumptions and being idealistic, including me. The difference is that you just think he is a marriage visa scammer, whereas other people were giving him advice other than your "stay in Turkey, you deserve no better and have no hope".
VICTOR IFEANYI
14 Sep 2011 #58
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Michael_jackson - | 12
23 Oct 2011 #59
I joined this forum.I am curious to reply Midas.
@Midas.I agree many of Non-eu People are illegally entering UK or other EU countries.Which sometimes can be irritating to people like you.
@midas.For your kind information do you know that so called Britishers entered India.Ruled India and many other non asian countries.
YOu are intelligent midas?dont you?
So tell me why?If Britishers are so sophisticated,why the hell?why?Did they had less food in their own country?Or to use resource..The way NATO FORCES ARE EAGER TO MAKE COUNTRIES DEMOCRATIC..LUCKY ONE'S..WHICH GOT BILLION GALLONS OF PETROL.WHY NOT ZIMBABWE?

Germans ooo my god what Hitler did was so civilized?he wanted to **** the world.Jews had a great time during WW2.
@Midas each country have good people and bad.
India Had Gandhi.
Germany got Hitler.
@midas You choose who is superior?

Dont ever disrespect my country or any other..All people are not same.And globalization helps different communities to understand each other.Chinese,thai many other are studying in India.SO WHAT?

You got little knowledge about world..Some positive ones.You need care.I understand your point but your point is pointless.You are a hater.If you got So many problem with India..Go **** yourself and ask Britishers why?

These are the facts.Help your self.I wont message again and waste my time here.You keep doing.
coldlikedeath 1 | 7
6 Nov 2011 #60
My god, OP, GET REAL, will you? You truly need to stop dreaming. There are schemes in place to help you but NOT to help you scam the EU or whatever; they are only there to help you work or study, nothing more.

I am 22, Irish and have moved to Poland on ERASMUS. Where I live is shite and I wanted to leave at 17 but COULD NOT. I needed cash, a qualification or seven and a plan. I am here for a year and was told I would need to pay my own way, for the most part, the British Council- they fund ERASMUS- aren’t giving me much.

Make something or yourself first. Grow up and see what life is all about. The EU will not support you and nor will my country or others. Get your degree, get a modicum of sense!

And RE turkey being unable to laugh at itself, very true. The Turkish student I know on this course has genuinely, no sense of humour; he doesn’t understand how the Irish can laugh at floods when they happen (because Ireland doesn’t do floods therefore it’s always quite a funny shock... until the clean up)!

Inability to move to Poland is not stupid. Either she moves to you or you do long distance for as long it takes. Or split. Simple. But maybe you should meet her first. Poland won’t give you a scholarship just coos you’re “brilliant”. Most people who think they are, are not; they are deluded.

Grow up. Live. Your “girlfriend” might just want your money. If you have any.

And if turkey joins the EU? The UK will have a fit. And it's "British", guys... not "Britishers".


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