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Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs?


mafketis 16 | 6,197    
5 Jan 2018  #211
India is so corrupted by vestiges of their caste system and completely overpopulated with people with useless degrees and credentials that they simply have no future.

India made rapid progress for a time because of all the low hanging fruit, but that's over and they're hitting the wall of deeper unpleasant demographic truths and they're back to making 'Getting the Hell out of India" the national sport while steadfastly refusing to deal with the root causes of why things suck so bad...
Bieganski 17 | 907    
5 Jan 2018  #212
And all they can do is export their misfortune to the rest of the world. The fact that they couldn't deal with a known and growing problem within their own country (and are now primitively reacting to it with riots and demands for quotas) show the true limits of their so-called talents and their education which is based largely on wrote memorization rather than critical thinking and creativity.

Of course the enquiries on here from the Indian subcontinent and other overpopulated regions of the world won't stop. But the reasons behind these voluminous searches for job leads from these places should be understood because they will not bring any benefits to Poland and certainly not create jobs for local Poles. They are only seeking temporary relief by transferring their problems abroad.

They always hire their own kind anyway.

Even the carnival barkers for diversity who claim they will bring a variety of restaurants are preaching falsehoods. Immigrants aren't interested in slaving away in kitchens for the rest of their lives and certainly don't want that for their own children. They always seek out better paying white collar positions. And meals like curry and kebabs are never authentic in other countries anyway due to locally procured ingredients and adaptations to local tastes. Therefore there is no need to import Indians, Turks and Arabs to make them. Recipes are universally obtained and there are plenty of talented Polish chefs who can easily whip up such meals if there is a demand for them.
Jamaj - | 10    :-(
5 Jan 2018  #213
polsko needs people to work
no west people want to live in polsko
all u will get is BROWN
Bieganski 17 | 907    
5 Jan 2018  #214
You're wrong.

Poles are returning to Poland to work and Poland's unemployment rate is at an all time low.
Pratap oli    
8 Jan 2018  #215
I'm Pratap oli from kathmandu I'm going to face interview for studying in Poland (warshaw).So I want to know about Poland and part time job for foreign students there .
DominicB - | 2,627    
8 Jan 2018  #216
There are no jobs for non-EU students in Poland. No one will hire you. If you need to earn money to study, then Poland is the wrong country for you. Make your plans on the very safe assumption that you will never be able to earn even a single penny during your stay in Poland.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,793    :-(
8 Jan 2018  #217
@Pratap oli

Can you send me some nepalese honey?

But no unless you learn the language or have it skills at best youll land a low wage job washing dishes and even for that you'll be competing with local students, ukranians, other s asians that came to pl thinking theyd get a job while thwyre in college
DominicB - | 2,627    
8 Jan 2018  #218
youll land a low wage job washing dishes

No, he won't. Those jobs go exclusively to Ukrainians nowadays. A Nepalese student doesn't stand a chance.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,793    :-(
8 Jan 2018  #219
Hence why i said at best but ya in reality itd prolly go to a ukranian

The s asians that are killin it in pl atleast in wroclaw tend to be it pros (more indians, pakis, etc) and small busissmen (more chinese, some korean/viet).

There are places that will hire just about anyone for peanuts to work in fields, tan leather, hotels, make handicrafts, etc but they tend to be taken by ukranian women and its hprrible work
DominicB - | 2,627    
8 Jan 2018  #220
At best he would get hired by Uber Eats or some other scam outfit who will let him work for 19 days and then let him go without paying him anything. Plenty of that going around now. At worst, he will be "hired" by an organized crime outfit that will kill him and harvest his organs. Unfortunately, plenty of that going around, too.
jon357 65 | 13,567    
8 Jan 2018  #221
I want to know about Poland and part time job for foreign students there .

There are more and more opportunities for students, particularly in Warsaw - you'll do better to look at a forum for overseas students in Poland. Ignore some of the sillier comments in this thread - a quick look at the search function will show you that the usual suspects (who are Americans and don't live in Poland) just spam such threads to deter immigration.

studyportals.com/press-releases/poland-the-next-destination-for-international-students-to-study-abroad/
DominicB - | 2,627    
9 Jan 2018  #222
There are more and more opportunities for students

There are fewer and fewer. The massive inflow of Ukrainians destroyed chances of non-EU students getting jobs. It's harder for Polish students to find student jobs these days.

It's cruel to give these foreign students false hope that they will be able to find jobs in Poland, when no such opportunities exist.
jon357 65 | 13,567    
9 Jan 2018  #223
There are fewer and fewer.

No, Dominic, opportunities are increasing for studenty jobs.
mafketis 16 | 6,197    
9 Jan 2018  #224
And studenty jobs are meant to provide pocket and/or beer money. There's no way for a person to actually pursue a course of studies, pay for said studies and pay for an apartment and food on a studenty job.

If a person doesn't pay for studies and devotes all their time to a few studenty jobs while living crammed 15 people into a 2 room apartment.... maybe. But why would you encourage someone to follow that path?
jon357 65 | 13,567    
9 Jan 2018  #225
And studenty jobs are meant to provide pocket and/or beer money.

Many have to use that cash more wisely.

pay for said studies

If someone's unfortunate enough to have to actually pay to study, the costs would be more than one person's wage could run to.

Nevertheless, there are opportunities for overseas students to work in Poland - many do.

Poland is a very attractive place to study, and an even more attractive place to settle down afterwards.
mafketis 16 | 6,197    
9 Jan 2018  #226
there are opportunities for overseas students to work in Poland

But not enough opportunities to support themselves while studying, that type of job is meant to extra money not as a sole means of support (which is what the recruiting agents are telling them it is)
jon357 65 | 13,567    
9 Jan 2018  #227
But not enough opportunities to support themselves while studying

Plenty of students do that - they need the cash, and the chance to study in Europe is worth the privations for many (who don't usually live in luxury at home).

The students I send to Poland from Africa don't need to work - they get funding from their government and another source. Nevertheless many choose to work, to have a better life and to save a little money for if/when they want to stay in PL and settle down.
mafketis 16 | 6,197    
9 Jan 2018  #228
The students I send to Poland from Africa don't need to work - they get funding from their government and another source

What's the graduation rate? What's the return to home country after studies rate?
jon357 65 | 13,567    
9 Jan 2018  #229
What's the graduation rate?

They're all postgraduate.

What's the return to home country after studies rate?

Give them time to settle in and decide their future!

A small number of graduate students have been coming to PL from this country since the 60s. Most return or go elsewhere, some marry and settle down. A good thing either way.
Taxpaying voter    
9 Jan 2018  #230
some marry and settle down.

Have any of them opened restaurants? I've not had food from the Horn region, but did much like what I have had.
jon357 65 | 13,567    
9 Jan 2018  #231
Not so far as I know, however one is the father of a celebrity, and there are some families who have opened businesses and brought relatives.

Of those who are studying in Warsaw, Krakow and Wroclaw now, I'd estimate that about half work, some in tutoring.
mafketis 16 | 6,197    
9 Jan 2018  #232
They're all postgraduate.

From the Polish institutions you're sending them to, don't play dumb.
jon357 65 | 13,567    
9 Jan 2018  #233
So don't speak dumb. The thing you raised isn't an issue for highly specialised postgraduate courses.

Hopefully, quite a few of the current cohort will settle down in Warsaw and other Popliush cities, creating a much needed diaspora community.
Taxpaying voter    
9 Jan 2018  #234
I've not had food from the Horn region, but did much like what I have had.

Oops, missed a word there, I meant that I've not had much food from that region but I did like what I've had.

Would be a pity if none of them have opened restaurants here, restaurants like that provide badly needed part-time jobs which don't require Polish and also serve to bring nations, and religions, together.
jon357 65 | 13,567    
9 Jan 2018  #235
Would be a pity if none of them have opened restaurants here

I think there are a number of Ethiopian restaurants, and of course Arab food like Shwarma is popular in PL - the skills for making that aren't huge, and quite a few kebab shops and other takeaways employ students in PL, just as they do in the UK.
mafketis 16 | 6,197    
9 Jan 2018  #236
restaurants like that provide badly needed part-time jobs which don't require Polish

Why are jobs that don't require Polish needed?

and also serve to bring nations, and religions, together.

Except..... when the employees kill locals, that is.....
Taxpaying voter    
9 Jan 2018  #237
I think there are a number of Ethiopian restaurants

Yes, but food from nearly the coast has a lot more spice to it.

Why are jobs that don't require Polish needed?

Because Poland is no longer mono-lingual, which is a good thing: mono-lingual Poland was created by the Nazis and the Commies.
mafketis 16 | 6,197    
9 Jan 2018  #238
So? The common language and language of inter-ethnic communication should be Polish. Creating jobs for people who don't speak the local language is usually a tool of economic oppression (if they don't know the local language they're kind of helpless) and/or a vehicle of chain migration - neither of which is very good.
jon357 65 | 13,567    
9 Jan 2018  #239
So? The common language and language of inter-ethnic communication should be Polish

'Should be' but isn't. People studying oin a degree course in a language that isn't their own (English) are generally too busy to study a Slavonic language at the same time, unless they're going to stay, in which case they do of course learn Polish.

a tool of economic oppression.... and/or a vehicle of chain migration

'Economic oppression' is hardly unusual for students, especially while capitalism is unfortunately allowed to persist, and 'chain migration' is the way the world works - thousands of Poles have done this over the last century or so..

Fortunately, the number of courses offered by Polish universities in English, as well as the growing number of part-time jobs available to overseas students will hopefully attract more interest.

Poland is a great place to study, and also to settle down afterwards.
mafketis 16 | 6,197    
9 Jan 2018  #240
People studying oin a degree course in a language that isn't their own (English) are generally too busy to study a Slavonic language at the same time,

the only reasons that people have for not learning the language of the country they live in are stupidity and laziness, and having a bunch of people who can't organize anything on their own is hardly an asset

as well as the growing number of part-time jobs available to overseas students will hopefully attract more interest.

Why? What's the end game here? What is the ideal ethno-racial and religious mix for Poland in your opinion?



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