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Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs?


mafketis 16 | 5,667    
29 Jul 2017  #181
es, they're studenty jobs, yes, studenty jobs are fine for students.

Who don't have to completely support themselves with them. A studenty job is for pocket or beer money, not for the rent and food.
Dirk diggler 7 | 2,972    
30 Jul 2017  #182
@mafketis

In us and probably uk as well as other western countries though they could. I paid my way through a bachelors and graduated debt free which is extremely rare nowadays through a mix of a few small scholarships but mostly working as a waiter, delivery driver, and towards the last year of college as a commodity broker. However I worked full time and it took me 6 years to get a bachelors which normally takes 4 although I took a break to work as a broker and didn't take any classes between years 5 and 6. When I was working at a restaurant during the week id typically work around 7 pm to 3:30 4 am, wake up around 11, go to class then work again.. I usually worked 6 days a week. However I was averaging around $20 $25 even up to $30 an hour cash (min wage plus around $140 to $160 in tips. Some nights I made over $200 in tips though). Only downside is my grades were bad as I never had time to study for more than a few hours and i wore my body out doing that. I don't regret it though.

In poland though the wages for low skill jobs are very very low. For example a security guard at some mall makes around 9 10 zloty an hour. Idk how much a waiter makes but ppl leave small tips in poland - they typically just round off the bill.

I personally think it would be nearly impossible to pay for schooling, rent, bills etc on a student type job in poland without receiving some sort of extra financial help.
cms 9 | 1,301    
31 Jul 2017  #183
Wages are higher than that and it is not easy to find someone Polish in Warsaw even for a simple work for less than 20 zloty. I

Outside Warsaw then about 15 zloty

Minimum wage is 13 zloty and about to go up again - it is illegal to pay security guards that little though I suspect it still happens occasionally.

Yes, tips are probably low - different system and better in my opinion for both employees and customers.

So unscrupulous employers have started to hire Indians and Pakistanis at tiny wages - I hope the labour inspectors will stamp that out though normally they prefer hassling legitimate businesses who stay in one place and have cash to pay fines.
Roger5 2 | 1,475    
31 Jul 2017  #184
Worth mentioning that IELTS is sweeping the world, eclipsing the Cambridge Suite in many places

That's true for those who are looking for work or uni places, but Cambridge exams will always have their place. I've taught both, and was briefly a Cambridge examiner (not worth the hassle - crap pay). An IELTS certificate is valid for, I think, two years, so it's OK to use it to get a job, but it expires quickly. Also, IELTS exams can be taken every month of the year, unlike Cambridge. Camridge is better for students who are looking for a deeper understanding of structure and are interested in long-term study. IELTS is great for work- and study-based English.
jon357 66 | 13,335    
31 Jul 2017  #185
Cambridge is better for students who are looking for a deeper understanding of structure and are interested in long-term study. IELTS is great for work- and study-based English

This is very true.

For the sort of part-time jobs that overseas students do in Warsaw, a certificate is rarely required. Re. certification, the bottom line is that in the landscape of formal language assessment, so much depends now on commercial considerations. HR departments are getting a (basic) knowledge of IELTS bands, Cambridge is well-marketed in some parts of the world but not others (the Oxford suite seems almost forgotten now, even by professionals) and the Council, who run the Cambridge exams in so many places is bureaucratic and currently in a state of flux and chaos.

The Cambridge exams are certainly more prestigious and demonstrate a more rounded skill set, however I do suspect that in the future we'll see much more IELTS. TOEFL also seems to be gently slipping away except in regions where many have a chance to study in the US.
delphiandomine 86 | 16,322    
31 Jul 2017  #186
(the Oxford suite seems almost forgotten now, even by professionals)

What, they have their own exams? I didn't know that!

and the Council, who run the Cambridge exams in so many places is bureaucratic and currently in a state of flux and chaos.

The almost complete cutting of funds from the Foreign Office caused that. Pushing employees onto umowa o dzieƂo in Warsaw was a particularly dick move on their part.
jon357 66 | 13,335    
31 Jul 2017  #187
What, they have their own exams?

They exactly mirror the Cambridge suite, but were never marketed in PL (or many other places for whatever reason). For jobseeking students, most will have IELTS anyway, TOEFLis losing relevance since it's a US exam and inthe US they know IELTS now, and most students have too much on their plate to do CAE etc.
delphiandomine 86 | 16,322    
31 Jul 2017  #188
I think Cambridge are likely to drop what we know as "Cambridge" exams before long. There's just too much money to be made from IELTS, and someone passing CAE 10 years ago is no measure of their current ability in their language.
siddhu    
28 Sep 2017  #189
How much i can earn in Poland with my studies?
Dirk diggler 7 | 2,972    
28 Sep 2017  #190
Depends on what you've studied, what type of degree you're doing (bachelors, masters, phd, etc.), how much experience you have, and the type of position you're aiming for.
karmakersajal30    
16 Dec 2017  #191
Hi I am sajal from Kolkata, India want to go polish Language course for 5 months, Can I learn basic within this five months?
And continuing this language course do I get any part time job over there.
DominicB - | 2,600    
16 Dec 2017  #192
Polish is one of the most complicated and difficult languages to learn in the world. It will take you years to learn just the basics. Five months is not enough. And no, you cannot work while taking a language course. There are no jobs for Indian students in Poland.
Lyzko 17 | 4,555    
16 Dec 2017  #193
Good luck, Sajal! Just be prepared for what you're in for:-))
_smitshah_    
27 Dec 2017  #194
Hi there! I am smit from Gujarat as I had completed my 12th science with math group and now I wanna study in poland for my higher studies in engineering so as I have had heard that it's difficult to find part time jobs in poland. Personally I wanna study in warsaw technological university.So can you please give a proper answer to this like am I able to find a part time job in warsaw?

Thank you
Smit
DominicB - | 2,600    
27 Dec 2017  #195
If you cannot afford to pay 100% of your study and stay in Poland without working, the Poland is not for you. There are no jobs for students from India. Make your plans on the very safe assumption that you will never be able to earn even a single penny in Poland. The same goes for all the other countries in Europe where youth unemployment is high: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Slovenia, Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia, Albania, Macedonia, Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal.

Studying engineering in any of those countries is no better than studying at a good engineering school in India. If you cannot afford to study at a good engineering school in a richer country like the UK, Germany, Switzerland or Sweden, then studying in India is your best option.

And if you are going to study engineering, study a field that will easily get you a high-paying job, like petroleum, geological or biomedical engineering.
Dirk diggler 7 | 2,972    
30 Dec 2017  #196
U can get an it job as an indian rather easily without knowing polish. Othereise its difficult unless u learn the language
Niharika    
5 Jan 2018  #197
I have got admission in Vistula university which is in Warsaw .. I just wanted to know will we have oppurtunities for jobs and how can we survive ??

I am going to study in masters for computer engineering ...

do we get pay in Zolty or euros while working???
mafketis 16 | 5,667    
5 Jan 2018  #198
there are two ways Indian students get paid

1. zloties
2. nothing (an old Warsaw tradition, some employers like to see how much unpaid work they can get from someone before they quit)
Niharika    
5 Jan 2018  #199
i am sorry i didn't get you properly
i didn't understand what you said.like we wnt have job oppurtunities that much in poland ??
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,541    
5 Jan 2018  #200
no niharika you wont.
Niharika    
5 Jan 2018  #201
So coming to poland for studies is it waste ..
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,541    
5 Jan 2018  #202
well I don't suppose any studies would be a waste per se but I am sure you would have more chance of being able to earn while you study, and get a more prestigious degree, if you went to the UK, for example.
Niharika    
5 Jan 2018  #203
So in Warsaw working while studying is impossible right ??
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,541    
5 Jan 2018  #204
if you don't speak Polish , I would say work is going to be very hard to find.
Niharika    
5 Jan 2018  #205
Even getting part time jobs is difficult in poland( Warsaw )??
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,541    
5 Jan 2018  #206
are you being deliberately obtuse or are you just thick?

YOU WILL NOT FIND A JOB TO SUPPORT YOUR STUDIES IN POLAND

HALF OF THE POPULATION HAS EMIGRATED FOR THIS VERY REASON AND THEY SPEAK THE BLOODY LANGUAGE
Niharika    
5 Jan 2018  #207
I am sorry ... I am just tensed as i have got admission in university and when i got to know now there will be no job opportunities so m totally tensed that's it m sorry ...
Bieganski 17 | 908    
5 Jan 2018  #208
are you being deliberately obtuse or are you just thick?

Indians are often falsely portrayed by themselves and their virtue signaling neo-Marxist supporters in the West as being super smart and overachieving.

But reality tells another story.

India is so corrupted by vestiges of their caste system and completely overpopulated with people with useless degrees and credentials that they simply have no future.

I pointed out in another thread how the IT sector collapsed in India due to advances in automation.

Here is another account written just this month of how dire the situation is over there:

...19,000 applied for 114 jobs; competing to be a street sweeper were thousands graduates, some with engineering and MBA degrees...1.5 million applied for 1,500 jobs with a bank..9 million took entrance exams for fewer than 100,000 jobs on the railways.

Faced with this lack of opportunity, many turn to rioting..entire cities had been shut down as people demanded quotas in education and jobs - today, young people from agricultural castes want to work in offices and not farms.

theguardian.com/news/2018/jan/02/the-scammers-gaming-indias-overcrowded-job-market

And yet militant Soros drones in the feminized West insist that countries in Europe need to import this unsustainable and violent prone overcapacity from the rest of the world.
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,541    
5 Jan 2018  #209
sorry Nih but did you not do your research before applying?
DominicB - | 2,600    
5 Jan 2018  #210
I am sorry ... I am just tensed as i have got admission in university and when i got to know now there will be no job opportunities so m totally tensed that's it m sorry ...

There are no jobs for foreign students. If you can't pay 100% for your studies and stay, then Poland is not the place for you. Make your plans on the very safe assumption that you will never be able to earn a single penny in Poland.

Degrees from programs taught in English at Polish universities are not worth anything on the job market. This is especially true for private universities like Vistula.

Yes, it is a waste of time coming to study at Vistula. Make more realistic plans for studying in your own country.




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