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PAT testing electrical equipment in Poland



OP Ukelectrical 1 | 11    
13 Sep 2017  #31

Omg.
So you are giggling at people being electrocuted or electrical wIrIng systems having the potential to seriously injure people especially children.
I think it is acceptable to say that children do not have the sense to understand the dangers of things that could injure them. Hence why parents educate them.

I would though rather remove the risk of electrocution from unsafe wiring than have to rely on telling someone its unsafe.


kaprys - | 588    
13 Sep 2017  #32

If you don't feel safe, have it changed.
Unfortunately, accidents happen. You need some common sense and imagination. If you're having a bath, unplug the hair dryer or the electric shaver. If there are electric cables protruding from the wall, you need to have it fixed.

As for young kids, you shouldn't let them play or stay alone in the bathroom for a long time. It doesn't necesarrily take electricity for an accident to happen. They may as well trip over and hit their head against the bathtub.
jon357 70 | 12,793    
13 Sep 2017  #33

You need some common sense and imagination.

Which not everybody has, hence proper health and safety requirements.

As for young kids, you shouldn't let them play or stay alone in the bathroom for . long time.

Therefore remove the risk.
kaprys - | 588    
13 Sep 2017  #34

@jon357
If he doesn't feel safe, he should have it changed - simple as that.
Also, young children should be supervised.
dolnoslask 2 | 1,173    
13 Sep 2017  #35

If he doesn't feel safe, he should have it changed

How do you know it is not safe, take the washing machine for instance, it works fine until it develops a ground fault and kills you, as I said earlier many homes like mine do not have a earth connection , water and electricity do not mix well best to keep the two as far away as possible, many people do not understand the dangers like miss polonia she graduated from the University of Warsaw , even education does not gaurantee safety.

rmf.fm/magazyn/news,10334,miss-polonia-zginela-tragiczna-smiercia-suszarka-wpadla-do-wanny-gdy-brala-kapiel.html
jon357 70 | 12,793    
13 Sep 2017  #36

If he doesn't feel safe, he should have it changed - simple as that.

It isn't about him feeling unsafe, it's about electrical installation in Poland being unsafe.

Also, young children should be supervised.

Your 'should be' does little to stop fatal accidents. Electrical safety does.

How do you know it is not safe

Because the 'Polish way' is always right, safe electricity in the bathrooms, safe drivers on the roads, safe doctors who are never ever drunk. All those darn statistics must all be wrong.
dolnoslask 2 | 1,173    
13 Sep 2017  #37

Because the 'Polish way' is always right,

Ha Ha jon I started to type the very exact sentence, but I deleted it because I might sound a bit wrong or something,
jon357 70 | 12,793    
13 Sep 2017  #38

Yes, I thought twice, however it needed saying, especially when lives are lost. No room for tact, no room for hurt feelings - better to offend someone than attend a child's funeral.

Everywhere has room to learn something from somewhere else, and somewhere that has electrical sockets in bathrooms, plug sockets coming off walls and basically relies on a mix of luck and

young children should be supervised.

which of course they always, but always, are, absolutely without exception by entirely unfeckless and sober adults.
OP Ukelectrical 1 | 11    
13 Sep 2017  #39

Thanks for all the replies guys. Lots of good comments and observations. I have no objection to the way Poland does things hence why I have a house there and a polish wife.

I was simply asking the question so I understood myself as though fully clued up on electrical safety in the UK I thought it polite to ask about the electrical safety in Poland and the culture of doing things.

So this is what I have seen and actually been told by tradesmen working on my house.

1. We don't test 240v or 110v handheld tools or anything else. We throw them away after they start smoking or someone gets a tickle (electric shock)

2. Electrical safety in the UK is overboard and could never be implemented in Poland as it would cost businesses and homeowners money.

3. Sockets in the bathroom are fine if you fit an extractor to get rid of the condensation and wear flip flops.

4. The electrician wired up our house and broke his hip as he electrocuted himself whilst working with live cables outdoors . He forgot which one of the cables was live and unfortunately picked up the wrong one with his hand.

5. We have started fitting residual current devices into distribution boards but cannot guarantee they will operate under an earth leakage fault.

6. The best one yet though. The electrical cannot attend to later this evening as he is having a few tyskie with friends ....He has left instructions with the plasterer to connect the shower as they often swap roles.

None of that above is made up.
dolnoslask 2 | 1,173    
13 Sep 2017  #40

None of that above is made up.

I have to add to point 5, when rcd's are fitted they are then swiftly removed by the homeowner due to them tripping, neigbour told him we never needed those in poland, they are fitted so that electricians get more work having to return to a property when they keep triping.
kaprys - | 588    
13 Sep 2017  #41

@jon357
@dolnoslask
And where did I say I knew it was safe or the Polish way is always right?
Come on.
Sometimes it seems it's impossible to express an opinion here without an argument. @Ukelectrical
Good luck with your new home. I hope you'll get everything fixed.
dolnoslask 2 | 1,173    
13 Sep 2017  #42

where did I say I knew it was safe or the Polish way is always right?

No you didn't say it, but just maybe it was hard to get over how serious it is to have acess to power in a bathroom.

Jon and I didn't mean any offence, it was a generalization and of course it does not apply to all, but does to very many. should have kept my gob shut.

Sorry if I have caused you any offence, it was not intended.
Wulkan - | 3,218    
13 Sep 2017  #43

So you are giggling at people being electrocuted or electrical wIrIng systems having the potential to seriously injure people especially children.

No I'm giggling at people like you telling me that I shouldn't have a socket in my bathroom so nobody gets killed, what else? I shouldn't drive a car because I can crash and kill myself or someone?
kaprys - | 588    
13 Sep 2017  #44

@dolnoslask
No worries ;)
jon357 70 | 12,793    
13 Sep 2017  #45

how serious it is to have acess to power in a bathroom.

Appallingly serious to have standard sockets in bathrooms.

should have kept my gob shut.

That's the last thing you should do. I'd rather annoy one person than see another in a coffin. Health and safety is a collective responsibility.
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
13 Sep 2017  #46

I have just purchased a house in Poland

How many years ago this house has been build? Is that a countryside or a town?
spiritus 67 | 617    
14 Sep 2017  #47

We feel that PAT testing has become an industry in it's own right and plays on people's fears. Many companies (as demionstrated by the phone call I had) are disingenuous by suggesting that PAT testing is compulsory each year when it is not.
OP Ukelectrical 1 | 11    
16 Sep 2017  #48

Spiritus.

Are these people ringing you from the UK or Poland regarding PAT testing.




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