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Opening new college of computer science in Poland - how can I find lecturers?


college 1 | 5
17 Jul 2014 #1
Dear all Phd , Asso.Prof, Prof
we have plane to open new college of computer science,and we need to get contract with lecturers in area computer science, the have Phd or Asso.Prof , or Prof.

the location is in iraq - erbil
the salary around 6000 Polish Zloty (PLN)

how i can find the lecturers? i need help
Best regards
jon357 69 | 18,475
17 Jul 2014 #2
the location is in iraq - erbil the salary around 6000 Polish Zloty (PLN)

I've never known anyone like working up there and Erbil is an expensive city for expats at the moment.
OP college 1 | 5
17 Jul 2014 #3
thank you for your comment, yes Erbil is expensive city but the the salary is fine + accommodation.
jon357 69 | 18,475
17 Jul 2014 #4
No, it's not fine. I know how much people get paid there and that isn't enough. Where I'm sitting right now, elsewhere in the country, we pay locals without teaching experience more than double that. Accommodation by the way is always provided. And to repeat, Erbil isn't a very nice place to work. Only a few months ago a lecturer was shot dead by one of his students.
OP college 1 | 5
17 Jul 2014 #5
of course the salary is nego. base of the experience of the lecturer, and lecturer came to teach not to travel , in other country us, uk , russia, okrain killing happening, you can not judge all the people in Erbil just for one accident.
Monitor 14 | 1,820
17 Jul 2014 #6
, in other country us, uk , russia, okrain killing happening

but not in Poland, so why would IT PhD leave to Iraq. Moreover PhD in IT can easily find good payed job in the industry in Poland, or for much more money in the west. Try Ukraine, but even there you would have to offer min. 2000 eur net + free accommodation I think.
PC_Sceptic - | 70
18 Jul 2014 #8
that 2000$+ is just min. base of our research in web

The salary is insulting, I was getting this per week plus accommodations while working in Indonesia.

Yes the Poles are excelling in IT in recent years, many migrated but they also know their value.
They have good reputation in the west, at least here in the US.

Maybe you would find someone 10 years ago but not today
(with your requested credentials)

In any case, good luck
Monitor 14 | 1,820
18 Jul 2014 #9
The article which you link is few years old. Now median salary of professor is around 4300 net according to: [wynagrodzenia.pl]

How much earns a professor in Poland?

Monthly salary (median) of a professor in Poland is 5727 PLN . Earning 50 % of professors range from 4662 PLN to 7400 PLN . The premium is on average 4 % of the total salary of professor , while 96 % are basic wage . Some professors also receives benefits earnings professors were described in the full report.

Details about how much he earns on the bench professor also allow you to evaluate the salary and remuneration in science and education .
Our respondents come from all Polish . Person communicating to us working in Warsaw, Krakow , Lodz, Wroclaw, Poznan , Gdansk, Szczecin , Bydgoszcz, Lublin , Katowice, Bialystok , Gdynia Czestochowa , Radom Sosnowiec , Torun , Kielce , Gliwice, Zabrze, Bytom, Rzeszów, Olsztyn, Bielsko- Biala, Tychy , Opole.


But they usually have other sources of income than just salary, so this article, says that professors in Uniwersytet Mikołaja Kopernika were earning total (with all extras) 5600 and 9000 pln net. And some of them work in private university during weekend and get extra money there.

It would have to be min 2 x more to convince somebody to go abroad, and 4 x more to convince to go to Iraq (life at risk).
OP college 1 | 5
18 Jul 2014 #10
Dear thank you for all answer the post
i like you tell you Erbil is not not Iraq ,, erbil is different Erbil in Kurdistan , we totally different from Iraq and Arab with all my respect,

Please see the links:

youtube.com/watch?v=Dr3ocPRAwIc
youtube.com/watch?v=uz1zl8q_8Pk
jon357 69 | 18,475
18 Jul 2014 #11
The salary is insulting, I was getting this per week plus accommodations while working in Indonesia.

This is fairly normal, and worth mentioning that Kurdistan (specifically Erbil) is awash with oil money at the moment. For that salary, it's probably better to recruit in Egypt or India where there are some excellent IT people. The salary, PC Sceptic, that you quote for Indonesia is similar to or less than here in Southern Iraq, except the work is month on/month off and everything, accommodation, food, travel, domestic help is paid for. Our expat tech/HSE trainers, by the way, start at $700 per day on a 28 day stint and some feel this is low.

i like you tell you Erbil is not not Iraq ,, erbil is different Erbil in Kurdistan , we totally different from Iraq and Arab with all my respect,

This is partly true. I find I get on with Iraqi Kurds very well and I would be happy to go to Erbil for, say, a month however what I said before still stands - that every westerner I know who has worked in education in Erbil has not liked being there; indeed there are no shortage of stories on the internet about it.

I suppose it depends what you're looking for and what sort of person you are. A frustration for some (it wouldn't bother me, I'm used to the Middle East and exotic places) is that in Erbil the prices in hotel bars/restaurants where westerners gather (some hotels are for Iraqis and don't necessarily have bars) are geared up to oil company people like myself who are on expenses and don't have to worry about the cost of anything. On that salary (remember people go abroad very often to support their family/mortgage at home) that sort of expat life wouldn't be possible.
OP college 1 | 5
18 Jul 2014 #12
[quote=jon357]This is partly true. I find I get on with Iraqi Kurds very well and I would be happy to go to Erbil for, say, a month however what I said before still stands - that every westerner I know who has worked in education in Erbil has not liked being there; indeed there are no shortage of stories on the internet about it.

thank you for your comments
the salary part , you are really helped me , i noted it is wrong i wrote, and i apologize if it is wrong thinking .

my be personally came to Poland i know more about education in Poland

Best of the Best regards for all comments
jon357 69 | 18,475
18 Jul 2014 #13
I think for that salary, you could find someone excellent from India or perhaps Romania or Serbia. I have recruited from both places and been very pleased with the calibre of applicants.


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