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NO JOBS IN POLAND FOR ENGLISH PEOPLE EXCEPT TEACHING?


dave23
16 Jan 2013 #1
Hi my names David and i have applied for so many jobs in poland to do with english speaking and i have had no replys at all? does anyone have any advice for me or knows why im not getting any replys as ive got experience in the jobs im applying for.

Thanks for any help :)
gumishu 11 | 5,330
16 Jan 2013 #2
Polish firms are known for not replying to e-mailed job offers. If they are interested in your services they suddenly phone you or e-mail you ater half a year when you lost track already who you had contacted. The culture only changes slowly. However you need to take into account that Polish is essential while you are trying to find a job in Poland and maybe this is the thing that hinders your chances.
pawian 171 | 12,301
16 Jan 2013 #3
replys

Probably they noticed your English still requires improvement.
OP dave23
16 Jan 2013 #4
Please do not comment on my post if your going to be stupid and imature! don't waste my time thanks.

Polish firms are known for not replying to e-mailed job offers. If they are interested in your services they suddenly phone you or e-mail you ater half a year when you lost track already who you had contacted. The culture only changes slowly. However you need to take into account that Polish is essential while you are trying to find a job in Poland and maybe this is the thing that hinders your chances.

Hi yes that seems to be the case at the moment, I have only been here 6 months but ill keep trying i never give up i woud rather work than be a bum sat at home doing nothing all day long, :)
pawian 171 | 12,301
16 Jan 2013 #5
Now I know why nobody replies to your emails. Sorry, but with that kind of attitude you are not going to score any interviews in Poland, with the current unemployment rate at 15%.

Simple.
OP dave23
16 Jan 2013 #6
How was that attitude? And may i ask why you are commenting if your not giving help but your giving negative comments?
pawian 171 | 12,301
16 Jan 2013 #7
Negative comments or good piece of advice?
Wulkan - | 3,251
16 Jan 2013 #8
i woud rather work than be a bum sat at home doing nothing all day long, :)

Since when Poland has such a good social walfare system?
pawian 171 | 12,301
16 Jan 2013 #9
I have only been here 6 months but ill keep trying i never give up i woud rather work than be a bum sat at home doing nothing all day long, :)

OK, if you have time, check these threads: look for job / poland.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
16 Jan 2013 #10
Now I know why nobody replies to your emails. Sorry, but with that kind of attitude you are not going to score any interviews in Poland, with the current unemployment rate at 15%. Simple.

+1

Dave, your English has spelling errors etc. You do need to work on it. Now let's talk about teaching English for a moment: assuming you wanted to, in the cities there are probably too many English native speakers already and the jobs are fewer. When I am out and about I am amazed at how many under 40 year olds speak pretty good English already, thanks to their school, uni or -- as one or two have told me -- just watching American movies and TV. I think the work for English teachers is falling away, so it's good that you want to do something else. If I could think of anything, I'd let you know. When I first came I tried approaching many firms, I only got one answer and that was just a thanks but no thanks. I can even recall one firm ignored me even with me offering to work for free on a one-week trial basis and at very much a reasonable rate thereafter! Hate to say it, but they just don't need us much or at all, unless we have a specialist skill such as economics or IT or engineering. If you have any of those, you should keep trying perhaps, and I hope you do well and understand that nobody here meant offence, they were just pointing out what you need to work on to progress. Of course, none of us are perfect ;o)
pawian 171 | 12,301
16 Jan 2013 #11
Hate to say it, but they just don't need us much or at all, unless we have a specialist skill such as economics or IT or engineering.

Exactly.

But there is always a chance that a job seeker is a good-looking, learned, amiable gentleman/woman with excellent approach to students. In such a case, it is possible he/she will find work as an English teacher in Poland against hardcore competition from Poles and expats.

Of course, none of us are perfect ;o)

Yes, I make horrible mistakes but I am too old to improve. Dave still has time for it, I suppose.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
16 Jan 2013 #12
From what I understand, what will matter most here in Wroc is undercutting the next guy; I have seen prices as low as 20zł an hour on posters in the street and Gumtree. 30zl an hour now seems commonplace. Not long ago it was quite a bit higher. Of course, the properly experienced teachers probably still command higher fees and get them.
smurf 39 | 1,981
16 Jan 2013 #13
Dave, welcome to PF, where the trolls attack with impunity, don't pay any attention to them and click the ignore button when you hover the mouse over their name.

I had the same prob when I moved here...ended up having to teach for about 2 years until I built up a list of useful contacts who helps me get a proper....sorry, not proper....a job I liked.

Hang in there kid, I presume you've a Polish missus that made ya move here (like the vast majority of us), can someone in her family not sort you out with something?
Wulkan - | 3,251
16 Jan 2013 #14
You do need to work on it.

agree, that would be essential to get the job as a teacher

30zl an hour now seems commonplace.

I would say it's quite decent

a proper....sorry, not proper....a job I liked.

what's the difference?
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
16 Jan 2013 #15
I would say it's quite decent

It probably is if for those fortunate enough to do a 5 or 6 hour day at least 3 or 4 days a week, but if it's 30zl an hour and travelling to schools or students for 2 hours, it's not so good especially if some time to get there and back. I spoke to one teacher last year who told me he's working quite a few hours every month with a school and still only just about covering his rent. He told me he had almost nothing left to pay for petrol, food or his kids.
OP dave23
16 Jan 2013 #16
I had the same prob when I moved here...ended up having to teach for about 2 years until I built up a list of useful contacts who helps me get a proper....sorry, not proper....a job I liked.
Hang in there kid, I presume you've a Polish missus that made ya move here (like the vast majority of us), can someone in her family not sort you out with something?

Exactly :) my missus did make me move here :) and to be honest i find it hard and yes i know my english is not good but tats because i come from west yorkshire where they don't speak properly :p and im learnign polish at the minute but its hard and i want to work in a warehouse or office based i have very good knowledge of IT computers ext..

I will keep trying, thank you people :)
pawian 171 | 12,301
16 Jan 2013 #17
I will keep trying, thank you people :)

Good luck. If you could reveal your whereabouts, we might try to help you more. In what area are you residing now?
OP dave23
16 Jan 2013 #18
Thanks and im in bytom, slaskie.
pawian 171 | 12,301
16 Jan 2013 #19
Check those ad sites for Bytom region

careerjet.pl/znajomosc-praca/bytom-225439.html
praca.trovit.pl/praca-znajomo%C5%9B%C4%87-j%C4%99zyka-angielskiego
pl.indeed.com/Praca-Jezyka-Angielskiego-Bytom-w-Bytom,-%C5%9Bl%C4%85skie
praca.renego.pl/pracy/angielski+%C5%9Bl%C4%85skie+bytom
OP dave23
16 Jan 2013 #20
Thank you very much Pawian. P.s sorry about earlier.
pawian 171 | 12,301
16 Jan 2013 #21
No, I am sorry because I thought you are another troll. :):):):)
OP dave23
16 Jan 2013 #22
Haha no i was a real person wanting help :) and i guess we both are sorry then :) :) :)
Prus
16 Feb 2013 #23
Dear Dave 23
It was a fair and objective criticism to point out that your observed standard of writing English is grammatically very poor. For example writing a pronoun with a lower case "i" and other sloppy inadequate spelling and punctuation cripples your chances of getting a job in England, let alone in Poland.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
16 Feb 2013 #24
One of the most ironic things I've observed in this city would be ads apparently from "English native speakers" on various popular websites, which contain glaring errors that any schoolboy would notice -- and yet people give those advertisers work as their English tutor?! You just couldn't make it up!
AmerTchr 4 | 201
16 Feb 2013 #25
I've noticed this around the world in our industry. You see English-language advertising on the job-sites and on the web-sites all the time with poor grammar, misspellings and unclear phrasing. When you offer up corrections the attitude I have always seen was, "It is not your business."

Poor presentation should tell folks something.
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jon357 63 | 15,309
16 Feb 2013 #26
Hi my names David and i have applied for so many jobs in poland to do with english speaking and i have had no replys at all? does anyone have any advice for me or knows why im not getting any replys as ive got experience in the jobs im applying for.

If you speak Polish very well you have a good chance - if not, you don't. As for jobs involving speaking English, plenty of Poles speak it very well and if you've noticed there's a huge population spike in their 20s and 30s which affects the jobs market. The rudimentary benefits system here also keeps people in jobs rather than on the dole.

If you want to teach English, you'll find that the bottom end of the market has been swamped by people who've gone to PL as partners (usually boyfriends) of returning members of the post 2004 diaspora. The better end of the market needs good qualifications and experience.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
16 Feb 2013 #27
I'm not a teacher but it irritates me when I see poor English in ads for English tuition, because the student is going to get less than they paid for, without being equipped to realise it beforehand.

As for the poor English on websites and similar -- I wholeheartedly agree with you there, too.
OP dave23
15 Apr 2013 #28
Hi,Thank you everyone but i do have a job now in poland and im enjoying it very much, as for my "poor" english not everyone who talk's english including everyone on here can talk real english language as everyone will make error's, Also i do not care about how i spell and to the one person who said i would not even get a job in england YOUR wrong as i have had job's lasting a 3 years and 2 years, so your very wrong wrong there in that point you tried to prove. Thank you to all who tried helping your advice was greatful and taken in to mind.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,359
15 Apr 2013 #29
but i do have a job now in poland and im enjoying it very much

Callan? handing out flyers?
nukidondabloc
16 Apr 2013 #30
Congratulations on the job, it's very tough out there!!

Your English is quite atrocious for a native speaker :-)... but at least you admit to it, and you found a job anyway. :-)

I think another problem is recruitment agencies in Poland. They are not at all proactive (perhaps just with foreigners). I get the assumption that they don't even bother contacting clients, who could perhaps have a suitable role for an English speaking role, or a tech specialist type role. I wouldn't even bother with them. Do their job yourself by calling every company you can find. Also get your CV changed into Polish by somebody, who knows it might at least get you to an interview, and then you could try and charm them or just say 'tak' to all their questions.


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