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IT job offer from Wroclaw - advice on flats needed and other questions about Poland


Izmirli
17 Jul 2015 #1
Hello people i am non EU citizen, i am offered 13000 zloty gross per month from a company, how much net salary will it be, i guess 8700s ? Also ..i want to live in min 80 sq meter flat, but i heard flats are smaller in Poland. Or more expensive per sqm. Can you give me advice on that. Also, is there any of you got the EU blue card and found a nicer job in UK or Holland with that after Poland? I heard Poland is conservative, is being atheist will be a problem as a foreigner,

Thanks a lot for answers
Polsyr 6 | 769
17 Jul 2015 #2
In which city in Poland?
smurf 39 | 1,981
17 Jul 2015 #3
There's a clue in the title.

:D

I heard Poland is conservative, is being atheist will be a problem as a foreigner,

It is and it isn't. No it won't be a problem. Avoid old women.

That's decent money you'll be on.
Have a look on gumtree.pl for flats.
Polsyr 6 | 769
17 Jul 2015 #4
Ops, I guess I am sleepy and missed the Wroclaw part.

You should do fine. Nothing to worry about. Just avoid pretentious people.
DominicB - | 2,709
18 Jul 2015 #5
Also, is there any of you got the EU blue card and found a nicer job in UK or Holland with that after Poland?

If your goal is to work in the UK or Holland or any of the richer countries, apply for jobs there. If you have the qualifications and experience to land a job for 13,000 PLN in Poland, you have what it takes to find a job in a rich country for double or triple the pay, and it doesn't make much sense to use Poland as a "stepping stone" or "back door".

Do your research and apply to as many jobs in richer countries as you can. Network and contact real people, rather than relying on the internet. Good jobs are practically never advertised on the internet. They are advertised by word of mouth, so networking is crucial.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
18 Jul 2015 #6
it doesn't make much sense to use Poland as a "stepping stone" or "back door".

Except, as has been mentioned many times, these jobs don't necessarily exist there.

Also, is there any of you got the EU blue card and found a nicer job in UK or Holland with that after Poland?

Many people do, it's quite normal to use Poland as a stepping stone.
DominicB - | 2,709
18 Jul 2015 #7
Except, as has been mentioned many times, these jobs don't necessarily exist there.

Baloney. These people have never even conducted a proper active job search, and if they did, they would certainly find plenty of better jobs in richer countries. Poland is not some magical land of milk and honey with a stranglehold on jobs. Quite the opposite.
eh!
18 Jul 2015 #8
well it is for some people especially in Wroclaw these days, because bods from lands like India, North Africa and the Middle East have moved to the city to work in software dev and also shared service centres. For them, pay is much higher here. so to state the obvious maybe but it depends where someone's relocating from, of course !
yosh - | 5
19 Jul 2015 #9
Hi there,
13.000 zloty gross is quite good for Wroclaw, but it's nothing out of the usual market. It's possible to get up to 15k/month for senior-level engineer in some specialties (node.js - quite popular).

13.000 gross will give you around 8800 net (according to calculla.com/salary_in_poland). It's because this is big enough to get into high band of income tax.

My advice is to ask your employer if you can work on B2B basis. In Poland this is usually not a problem, however some corporations don't do that for strange reasons. If this will work for you, you'll pay only ~500 of national insurance (ZUS) monthly and then 19% linear tax of your profits (so, you can also reclaim money for expenses, like mobile bills, travels, car etc.) - giving you at least 10.000 take-home money. On contract you can even negotiate higher...

As for flat - just take a look on some rent website and you'll see - in Wroclaw you'll get nice flat for 1500 - 3000/month depending on details (try gumtree, direct link to Wroclaw: gumtree.pl/s-mieszkania-i-domy-do-wynajecia/wroclaw/v1c9008l3200114p1). Typical flat is 40-80 sq meters, so if you need something bigger, you'll find less choice, but you'll find something anyway.

About UK and Holland - definitely there is bigger money to take, but also higher expenses (rent, bills, food etc.). And if you're not EU citizen, remember UK is NOT a part of Schengen Area (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area), which means there is standard border check when you're going there even from Poland or any other EU country. Don't worry about Holland - it is a part of Schengen...

And don't worry about atheism - everything is all right there (20% atheists ?). It's a normal country - as long as you're not muslim with strange things on top of your head and you're not going to pray on the middle of a street, assume no one cares.
aBBey5 - | 7
29 Aug 2015 #10
@Izmirli

Dear Izmirli, 13000 gross means-10660 net.
I feel there are few people with some agenda of demotivating people to coming to poland.
just google- average salary for some role , or check hays , antal reports and move.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
29 Aug 2015 #11
Dear Izmirli, 13000 gross means-10660 net.

No, it doesn't. The figures quoted by yosh are correct.

What you're counting is a very favourable taxation contract that you won't be able to take advantage of.
thecodergeek 5 | 31
26 Apr 2017 #12
Merged:

Is Poland paying me enough!!! (Wroclaw IT job offer)



I am 4 years of IT experience . I have been offered position with one of the companies in Wroclaw . 11000 PLN/per month .
Can somebody tell me how much i can save per month . Is it worth to join wroclaw from foreign country.
jon357 71 | 20,376
26 Apr 2017 #13
Is that gross or net?
terri 1 | 1,664
29 Apr 2017 #15
I have calculated the net salary. On 11K gross (132K gross per year) your net salary will be 90,300 pln per year roughly around 7.5K net per month.

You have to find out if this meets your requirements.
thecodergeek 5 | 31
30 Apr 2017 #16
@terri - is it good salary 7.5k +1k bonus = 8.5k net .

I am single guy . I have moderate living of standard . Can i happily live in 8.5k along with some savings ?
Harry84 1 | 80
1 May 2017 #17
@terri
consider 32% deduction even if you are eligible of 18% tax slot,
As we have to pay ZUS(including spouse) and medical insurance need to pay separately for spouse - it depends upon company policy.
Regards,
Harry84


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