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Poland is not the best country to get part time job with study?


Suraj
18 Apr 2017 #1
Hi everyone, my name is suraj. As you all say Poland is not perfect country to study for them who haven't money to pay all the tuition fee and living expenses. So can you pleas tell us witch country is good to study, where we can get easily part time jobs to pay fee and all the other expenses. Please reply me. Thanks.
Joker 2 | 1,232
18 Apr 2017 #2
country is good to study, where we can get easily part time jobs

I heard New Delhi is a pretty good place!
DominicB - | 2,709
18 Apr 2017 #3
Joker may be joking, but studying in one's own country is the best option for those who cannot afford to study abroad without working.

For countries where the cost of studying and living are low, like Poland, the quality of education in English is generally extremely poor, and youth unemployment is high, so getting a job is next to impossible. The degree is essentially worthless and will not help you get a job, so it is a very poor investment.

For countries where it is easier to find a job, like the US or UK, the cost of living and studying is very high, although if you earn a degree at a good university, it will help you get a job. It's a good investment, but the upfront cost is high and student part-time earnings are not going to be enough.

If you don't have the cash to study at a good university in a rich country, then studying at a good university in your own country is the best option by far.
jon357 63 | 15,378
18 Apr 2017 #4
we can get easily part time jobs to pay fee and all the other expenses

The Wedel factory in Warsaw is currently offering jobs to students, including overseas students.
DominicB - | 2,709
18 Apr 2017 #5
Those "jobs" are not paid. "Nasze aktualne oferty. Przez cały rok możesz zgłąszać się na bezpłatne praktyki do wszystkich działów". The paid jobs are only for people with prior experience.
jon357 63 | 15,378
18 Apr 2017 #6
That's a shame. Anything that encourages people to come to Poland is good. Nevertheless, they do offer paid seasonal work in the factory itself to students and are hiring right now..
DominicB - | 2,709
18 Apr 2017 #7
@jon357

I couldn't find anything on their site that indicated that paid summer work was available for students. They seem to be funneled into the sections for internships and praktyki, both unpaid. For the real jobs, you have to click on a button that says "Mam doświadczenia", and it's unlikely that they would be interested in anyone who didn't, as they could just as well have them work for free as an intern or praktykant.

There is a temporary worker service I found that is hiring production workers for Wedel, but those jobs would not be available for non-EU citizens, except perhaps Ukrainians. Speaking Polish is almost certainly a requirement.
jon357 63 | 15,378
18 Apr 2017 #8
summer work

It isn't summer work, it isn't any sort of American-style internship - just process and packing and I doubt it's on their website. They do have work for students and are hiring now.
DominicB - | 2,709
18 Apr 2017 #9
@jon357

You are aware that non-EU students are allowed to work only during the summer on a student visa? For work at other times of the year, the employer has to get a work permit for them, and it is exceedingly unlikely that one would be granted to hire a non-EU citizen for an unskilled job (unless they come from the Ukraine, Belarus, Moldavia, and I think Georgia and Russia). An Indian or African doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell unless they have permanent residency and speak Polish.
jon357 63 | 15,378
18 Apr 2017 #10
@DominicB, fortunately there are plenty of students from within the EU.

non-EU students are allowed to work onl

A great shame. Poland needs to encourage more people to experience the country.
DominicB - | 2,709
18 Apr 2017 #11
fortunately there are plenty of students from within the EU.

Yes, there are. And they get dibs on any jobs available, scarce as they are.

Poland needs to encourage more people to experience the country.

Not by ripping off poor, desperate and gullible third-worlders of their parent's last hard-earned red cent. Sorry, but the whole "study in Poland" scam leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
jon357 63 | 15,378
18 Apr 2017 #12
You needn't worry too much - the situation is improving all the time, the number of overseas students is growing and Poland is opening up nicely.
DominicB - | 2,709
18 Apr 2017 #13
@jon357

Sorry, but I don't see even the slightest hint of improvement. And no, I don't see an increase in the number of desperate and gullible third-world students who cannot afford to finish their studies as an improvement, either. Nor has the reputation of English-language courses taught at Polish universities improved. For all but a select handful of Indian or African students, studying in Poland remains a total waste of time and money.
jon357 63 | 15,378
18 Apr 2017 #14
Sorry, but I don't see even the slightest hint of improvement

When were you last living here?

desperate and gullible third-world students

Remember that not everyone has the same range of choices that you as an American have.

Travel and emigration broaden the mind.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
18 Apr 2017 #15
You are aware that non-EU students are allowed to work only during the summer on a student visa?

That situation has changed. Now, the restriction only applies to those with visas stuck into their passports. Those with residence permits can work freely.
DominicB - | 2,709
18 Apr 2017 #16
@jon357

I've only been gone for two and a half years, and I keep up with Polish affairs, especially education. I worked at Polish universities for twelve years, so I got plenty of opportunity to see the scam in action.

Travel and emigration broaden the mind.

Not when you're getting ripped off, it doesn't. And, as I've said many, many times before, if any student thinks that Poland is their best option for getting an education, they have failed miserably at exploring the much better options that exist elsewhere, both abroad and within their own countries.

Very, very rarely is Poland a viable educational option, and then only for graduate students who have already specialized in Polish affairs and who already know Polish, or for select STEM students at a couple of the the better technical universities. Actually, the only one that really pops to mind is mining at SGH. And perhaps pure mathematics. Other than that, it's pretty slim pickings for foreigners wanting to study in English in Poland. By far most of the courses are worthless.
jon357 63 | 15,378
18 Apr 2017 #17
Those with residence permits can work freely.

Excellent news. Let's hope it will encourage people to study here.

they have failed miserably at exploring the much better options

Not everybody has the same range of options. People choose a country to move to for all sorts of reasons, perhaps they have friends studying here, perhaps they want to travel round central Europe, perhaps they want to meet girls (or boys), perhaps look for someone to marry. Sometimes people just want a new experience. And Poland is be a great place.

Very, very rarely is Poland a viable educational option, and then only for graduate students who have already specialized in Polish affairs and who already know Polish, or for select STEM

Given the thousands who come to Poland to study each year (and this number is increasing year on year) I'd say it's very viable indeed.

Remember that not everyone wants to study sciences. Some choose Arts, some Humanities. Anyone thinking of studying here and is potentially deterred by your hundreds of negative posts would do very well to click on your username. They will find that you come here largely to deter people, more often than not people with dark skin or Muslims, from coming here to work or study. Fortunately the ever increasing number of people freely choosing to study and work here shows that people can make their own mind up.
DominicB - | 2,709
18 Apr 2017 #18
They will find that you come here largely to deter people, more often than not people with dark skin or Muslims, from coming here to work or study.

That was uncalled for, and it's completely untrue. As you should well know from perusing my posts. You've got my politics all wrong.
jon357 63 | 15,378
18 Apr 2017 #19
You've got my politics all wrong.

I'm absolutely sure you aren't a racist or anti-Muslim (and didn't suggest you were, although plenty here are) - the countries of origin of the posters in question does tend to be either the Indian sub-continent or the Arab world - this is the demographic who most often enquire and who (in certain fields like medicine) often want to study in Europe but often have opportunities more limited than you or I and are more likely to feel at home in a culturally conservative country than Poland. Interestingly, there are also quite a number of Turkish students interested in Poland and (here in Warsaw at any rate) a good support structure within an established and affluent Turkish community.

The people who are looking for part-time work obviously tend not to be medical students (too busy) or Arabs (usually not poor), however there is a huge economic discrepancy between India and Poland. There is some work for Indians, however it tends to be past Janki.

Incidentally Amrit in plac Wilsona are hiring at the moment - some of their staff only have very basic Polish if at all. This might suit a student.
Ironside 49 | 10,661
18 Apr 2017 #20
Waddup dawg? What is all that about? Virtue signalling and whatnot. lol!
jon357 63 | 15,378
18 Apr 2017 #21
Virtue signalling

If you've got it, flaunt it.

And Poland is a great place to come, either for a few years or to settle. A couple of people I know (from the Caribbean) came here as students, got married to Polish people and have stayed - probably permanently. They both worked while studying, though both are quite proactive about work.
WaqUp
8 Jul 2017 #22
I am a 60 years old wishing to add another masters from a university in Poland. Already hold Masters in strategic studies, and now looking at Maters in International relations.....

Anyone to guide or comment please.
terri 1 | 1,665
8 Jul 2017 #23
@WaqUp
As long as you have the necessary qualification in order to be accepted for the MA, can pay from your own pocket and can speak the Polish language up to the standard required then there will be no problem. If your MA is from another country you may have to have it recognized in Poland. They may test your Polish ability as well. Apply to a University and let us know how you got on.
Aksh
19 Aug 2017 #24
Hi.. I'm from India and I completed engineering & almost 3 years of experience and want to do MBA in Poland.. So can I get the part time job while studying..?? And should I get the language problem??
Nandini
14 Jan 2018 #25
Merged:

Part time job in Czestochowa?



can we get part time job in czestochowa
gumishu 11 | 5,493
14 Jan 2018 #26
if you know Polish or Ukrainian - yes
DominicB - | 2,709
14 Jan 2018 #27
@Nandini

If you don't speak Polish or Ukrainian, then no. Make your plans on the very safe assumption that you will never be able to earn a single penny during your stay in Poland. If you need to work to finance your studies or stay, then Poland is not the country for you.
jon357 63 | 15,378
15 Jan 2018 #28
can we get part time job in czestochowa

There are some, however you will be at an advantage if you speak Polish to a reasonable level.
mafketis 24 | 8,917
15 Jan 2018 #29
can we get part time job in czestochowa

Maybe.... but it probably won't pay enough to support you unless you like living ten to a room...
jon357 63 | 15,378
15 Jan 2018 #30
Very few overseas students do that. Most live in hall.


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