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Is 6500 PLN salary gross enough to live on for a small family in Wroclaw?


omarix 1 | -
14 Jan 2014  #1
I'm from Algeria and I had an offer for a permanent job in Poland, Wroclaw, and I'm currently negotiating the salary and would like to know if 6500 PLN Gross is enough to live and keep spare for a small family parents and a small kid ?

Also want to know how smooth is family reunification to be processed for a person that has work permit and residence card.
please let me know what do you think and thanks for your advice in advance.
BR
Harry
14 Jan 2014  #2
6500 PLN Gross is enough to live and keep spare for a small family parents and a small kid ?

You could live on that but it wouldn't be a particularly luxurious life. You'd need to allow at least 2,000zl per month for a three-room apartment in Wroclaw, and that would be close to half your net income.

how smooth is family reunification to be processed for a person that has work permit and residence card.

Depends what family you are talking about; if it's anybody other than spouse or kids, you can't really import them.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
14 Jan 2014  #3
It seems that some landlords have recently been hiking rents here. I have been shocked to see an increasing number of 50m2 flats at 2500PLN lately. Whether they let is another matter but am seeing more increases over the last month, including where I used to live they hiked the rent 35% for the next tenant (of course, no one's rented it yet).

If you look carefully, you should find a decent 60m2+ flat for 1500 a month plus 400 or 500 service charges. Electricity can be anything from 75 a month, gas and water similar (all metered). A travel pass is 100 a month. Food isn't cheap. Entertainments aren't cheap except compared to Central London. If you deal with an agent, negotiate their fee down. Also try to negotiate the rent, some landlords will drop quite a bit.
Monitor 14 | 1,821
14 Jan 2014  #4
6500 gives 4595 net. As they wrote, you would have to pay around 2500 per month for average size apartment. With 2000 per month left for family of 3 you will have modest live and trouble to save anything.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
14 Jan 2014  #5
you would have to pay around 2500

Yes, but that's a try on price in my opinion, not a realistic achieved rent. The OP could probably find something for between 1400 and 1700 after negotiation, somewhere else. These 2500 a month landlords (probably foreign owners detached from reality) will have a long wait unless they get lucky and find a corporate tenant with a generous housing allowance. In my experience, it won't happen for a while and it will be a void (empty and tenantless) for many months, and the landlord will then lose more than if he or she had been realistic with price in the first place. Of course, some landlords only want to let to well off tenants, and don't care about losing rent. These are the sort of business men and women who don't last long when interest rates are normalised, as they surely will be.
Harry
14 Jan 2014  #6
As they wrote, you would have to pay around 2500 per month for average size apartment.

No, I think in Wroclaw he'd be OK spending 2,000zl per month (including everything except the internet/TV bill) for a decent three-room flat in a reasonable neighbourhood. Although with that said, life for a family of three on 3,000zl per month isn't going to be anything above average and won't involve any saving.
frd 7 | 1,399
14 Jan 2014  #7
I can confirm everything InWrocław and Harry said.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
14 Jan 2014  #8
And I think you were living in Wro long before I even vaguely knew that I was coming here! Have rents gone up in that time? I can see that some landlords think Wroclaw is silicon valley or something, judging by the try-on prices I'm now seeing. If even a quarter of the empty flats get bought by landlords, I'd expect to see rents actually drop not rise, unless there's some sort of wage spiral or jobs goldrush here suddenly. Isn't it just Qatar call centres and CS with some vacancies now, pretty much? I'd have thought call centres paid far from enough for anything like a 2500 pcm flat.
Maybe 12 | 409
14 Jan 2014  #9
I would say a financially comfortable life in Poland would be around 12,000 zl a month NET for a small family.
You_Say_Hello
4 Mar 2014  #10
What about 18000 PLN (gross) per month, how could one survive on this amount in Wroclaw?
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
20 Mar 2014  #11
that's like.....6 times the national average. i'd say not bad.
BananaHam
18 Jun 2016  #12
Merged: Moving to Wroclaw. Is the 5500-6000 gross salary enough to survive for two in Poland?

Hi guys,

I have a chance to relocate to Wroclaw with starting salary 5500-6000 pln/gross. My partner will come with me. Would this be enough to survive the two? Of course, later on he will hopefully also find a job.

Thanks for your answers.
terri 1 | 1,620
18 Jun 2016  #13
Yes, it will be enough to SURVIVE on, nothing more.
mc88
27 Dec 2018  #14
80k gross in wroclaw is enoguh for single person?
MoOli 9 | 484
27 Dec 2018  #15
80k yearly or monthly?
terri 1 | 1,620
28 Dec 2018  #16
That is more likely to be annually/yearly, i.e. just over 6K per month. It would have to be some position to get 80K per month.
MoOli 9 | 484
28 Dec 2018  #17
Since he didn't mention position that's why I asked.There are lots of people in Poland who are making over 80k pln a month.I know couple of people working in KPMG and Deloitte who make way over that a month.
terri 1 | 1,620
28 Dec 2018  #18
I used to work for PwC so I do know. I don't think that the poster will be taking up a Managerial position with one of these firms.
sahil1490 - | 2
29 Dec 2018  #19
No bro, this is not even sufficient for even one person let alone for a family
jon357 63 | 14,122
30 Dec 2018  #20
Yes, it will be enough to SURVIVE on, nothing more.

Yes. After tax, that's below the median for Warsaw.

I don't think that the poster will be taking up a Managerial position with one of these firms.

Exactly. Nor would such a person need or want to ask that question here.


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