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Is moving from Moscow to Wroclaw worth it? (.NET software developer)


mafketis 34 | 12,226
16 Nov 2015 #31
There is a feeling that poles do not really like or welcome russians

IME Polish people officially don't like Russians in general but are ready and willing to make exceptions for Russians they know (especially if they can speak Polish and it will be super simple to learn once you're here). Many Poles like the aesthetics of Russian culture, it's the history and (current) politics they don't like.

In a pinch, say you're Ukrainian since most can't tell the difference in accents (is there one?) and relations between Poland and Ukraine are about as good as they've ever been. Okay that's too far, but still there shouldn't be any problem in Warsaw.
G (undercover)
16 Nov 2015 #32
"the one problem/concern which is specifically related with Poland is about attitude of the locals towards immigrants and Russians in particular."

These days eastern Slavs are all over the place in Poland (mainly Ukrainians due to recent mess) and generally people do not have problems with them, besides it's hard to notice until they talk to their own. So it's not that you should be afraid of people attacking you (at least no more than Moscow, rather less...) on the street or anything like that. Among middle class or at work in corpo environment there should be no problems, "far-right" types should be no problem either, the kind of people that could be hostile to Arabs or Negroes rather don't have issues with Russians, I guess It's similar in Russia, Poles in Moscow would be less a "target" than people from Caucasus etc. even If they are Russian citizens.

Generally with all the mess going on in Europe now, I think Poland is one of the safest countries. But as for "If Russians feel welcomed here" I can't say to be honest, Poles or westerners living here simply don't know that, you would have to ask some Russians living here.
dolnoslask
16 Nov 2015 #33
From my point of view being Polish and living in Poland, I would have no problem with Russians coming to Poland, I think problems would occur if you started proclaiming how good things were under the old communist state, many of us me included lost family in Stalin's gulags.

But all that is history and the world has moved on (Mainly),

I was concerned when I moved to work in China, that I as a westerner would have problems, i also had concerns about safety.

Turned out ok, I had a few political / racial issues (Soldiers in bars etc) but the locals would tip me off and i would get out quick.

You like me Will find that IT skills /IT speak easily cross border /language barriers so your work experience her in Poland should be good.

Good Luck
G (undercover)
16 Nov 2015 #34
"In a pinch, say you're Ukrainian since most can't tell the difference in accents (is there one?) and relations between Poland and Ukraine are about as good as they've ever been."

That's not really true. Vast majority of Poles do not support Russian aggression in Ukraine but:
1. It doesn't make them so "pro-Ukrainian". Relations between governments and people are a different thing and even at the gov level, let's be honest Poland just wants a buffer zone between Russia. Ukrainians terribly messed up quite a few things in the post Soviet period.

2. People here generally don't pay much attention to differences between sub groups of eastern Slavs and when they do, It's not really "Russians bad, Ukrainians good", the problems between Poles and Russians were always a matter of big politics, while in case of Ukrainians it often went down to hostilities between people, like UPA etc.
Dusha - | 6
16 Nov 2015 #35
Dears, thanks to all who have responded and commented, I truly appreciate your input.

My wife has given me a carte blanche of taking a 'trial' for a next 2-3 years so we could see if we can cope with staying away from homeland and building our future in Poland.
dolnoslask
16 Nov 2015 #36
Good Luck Dusha, any problems just post i and others will try to help
helloWorld
1 Jan 2017 #37
So nice to see the final message from dolnoslask - "Good Luck Dusha, any problems just post i and others will try to help".... :)

I am curious to know about the Polish people's reaction towards a person from places like India if he/she ever tried to integrate with the Polish community such as getting married in Poland.
akt
4 May 2019 #38
Hi,
I am being offered 17000 PLN per month gross in gdansk from multinational company. I will go with wife and 2 kids (5 years and 3 years).
How much I can save with normal life?
How much is the rent?
How much costly is the International school there?
Is there any tax rebate on expenses of child education?
Is there any tax rebate if filing tax jointly?
Vlad1234 18 | 1,202
4 May 2019 #39
In the US, Software Developers earn around 10,000 usd a month.

This is probably before tax deduction, so after paying taxes you will get around 7.000 usd a month. For those who have a family taxes could be a bit lower. And expect to get 10.000 a month (120.000 a year) brutto, only if you are really advanced developer. More commonly salaries range from 60.000 - 95.000 brutto a year.


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