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Enterprise Content Management / Electronic Records Management - how good in PL?


dr_rabbit 5 | 90
5 Sep 2010 #1
Hi,

My Polish wife and I are happily living in New Zealand at the moment, but think some time in the next few years we would like to move to Poland for the medium term.

I'm wondering if there is anyone here working in the field of ECM / ERMS or more broadly in Information / Records Management / Archives?

We won't move to Poland until I have a very good grasp of the language, and my career is going well here so it makes sense to build up 3-5 years more experience, hopefully get some decent project management experience etc.

It would be great to connect with likeminded individuals to discuss this sector in Poland.

Cheers,

Peter
factor
15 Sep 2010 #2
You're probably better off to stay in NZ or move to Australia ;)
recoil - | 26
16 Sep 2010 #3
Can you be more specific on what your job is or should be?

Records management and archiving are very important in all financial institutions as they are obliged by law to maintain them.

So any bank or any IT company having banks as clients would be a good target.
OP dr_rabbit 5 | 90
19 Sep 2010 #4
You're probably better off to stay in NZ or move to Australia ;)

Financially you are absolutely right: I just got shortlisted for a new job at the national archives of NZ with a starting salary (equivalent) of 10,000 zl/ month. In Australia it is an extra 50% more again on top of that. However we would really like to be able to make it work for us in Poland, spending time with family and friends, so I can really learn to use the language properly, etc

Can you be more specific on what your job is or should be?

I've been working in the heritage archive sector mainly with historical documents and collections of papers, photographs etc, but I've been doing a Masters course which focuses more on corporate information / records / knowledge management. Fingers crossed I'm going to be starting in an advisory role, managing projects to bring government records into compliance with legislation. This sort of role has an increasing emphasis on electronic records and information management systems.

Recoil, you mentioned financial institutions' records management: is it a profession dominated by people with native-level ability in Polish or are expats filling a gap? I'm certainly expecting to get quite specific experience in that sortof 'fiduciary duty' branch of records management before I contemplate moving to Poland.
alexw68
19 Sep 2010 #5
I'm certainly expecting to get quite specific experience in that sortof 'fiduciary duty' branch of records management before I contemplate moving to Poland.

Well, there's certainly work to be done there. Single, unified databases, even in the modern banks, are non-existent. Example: we have had to contact no less than 4 departments of the same bank to notify a change of correspondence address on our mortgage. Regardless of fiduciary duty etc, the main problem is there are people in senior positions who still think Excel is a database...
recoil - | 26
20 Sep 2010 #6
Fingers crossed I'm going to be starting in an advisory role, managing projects to bring government records into compliance with legislation.

The general consensus is that working for the government in Poland is a bad idea from financial and from personal development perspective. You'd probably suffer while not being a native speaker. Another thought - you might want to investigate whether there are any securite clearance requirements for certain posts and how does the procedure of obtaining it relate to foreigners.

is it a profession dominated by people with native-level ability in Polish

It is dominated by the natives for sure, but if you pick an the international bank the English might suffice, as usually most processes and teams working on following them are from various countries etc. The only catch that I see is that in some positions you might have to rely on polish legal documents and in such case a language barier might be a problem.

You chose a line of work that seems to heavily depend on written word - unfortunately it does not make it easier to find a job in a foreign country.
OP dr_rabbit 5 | 90
20 Sep 2010 #7
we have had to contact no less than 4 departments of the same bank to notify a change of correspondence address on our mortgage. Regardless of fiduciary duty etc, the main problem is there are people in senior positions who still think Excel is a database...

Sounds like somewhere down the track someone's going to make a truckload implementing Information Management solutions for those sorts of organisations.

working for the government in Poland is a bad idea from financial and from personal development perspective

Absolutely, I'm not imagining that I'd be working in the Public sector in Poland. The NZ public sector is very different, generally much more corporatised and less bureaucratic in the traditional sense, so its possible to get experience which I understand to be easily transferrable to the private sector. Also I agree, I think the security requirements would be prohibitive. The only capacity I could imagine interacting with the Polish public sector is in a consultancy sort of role, but thats a fair way down the track for me. From the very basic Information Management I've encountered in my times in Poland I certainly think its going to be a growth area.

The only catch that I see is that in some positions you might have to rely on polish legal documents and in such case a language barier might be a problem.

You chose a line of work that seems to heavily depend on written word

Again, I think you are absolutely correct. I'm thinking that if I'm working in the sector in Poland it will be more system design/implementation side of things rather than working directly with the content.
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jwojcie 2 | 763
3 Apr 2013 #10
Well, there's certainly work to be done there. Single, unified databases, even in the modern banks, are non-existent. Example: we have had to contact no less than 4 departments of the same bank to notify a change of correspondence address on our mortgage. Regardless of fiduciary duty etc, the main problem is there are people in senior positions who still think Excel is a database...

That is a huge overstatement... Some have, some have not. For sure though in most of RFP or RFI nowadays Banks either ask for ECM component or asks to integrate with what they have. So probably being up to date with current IT solutions for ECM will come in handy. Particular thing in Polish market is GIODO which is an institution supervising personal information management - access, encryption, etc.. Probably perspective employee in ECM field in Poland should know something about GIODO and rules for personal information management in PL.


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