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Poles and American Poles. What do you think about those two groups and their interactions.


delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
22 Feb 2011 #61
Some people will not become Polish ever they will always be who they are parasite and nomad delphian is best example.

It would be a little tricky to become Polish, seeing as I have no Polish blood!
ender 5 | 398
22 Feb 2011 #62
delphiandomine
I am not sure how to say it so I would quote you:
bla bla, bla bla bla bla, bla bla
Harry is more ineresting
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
23 Feb 2011 #63
American Polacks

Polish Americans not Polacks, that's a slur for all Poles u dummy.

It's nothing to do with jealousy (after all, real Poles are able to work anywhere in the EU and earn just as much money, if not more)

HAHA what a nimrod. EU since when? a few years, what about before it was just as hard if not harder getting to western European countries than the U.S, and Poles have been coming here in large numbers since the 1800s. Son pay is higher in the U.S than almost all EU nations, even if someone does make more how far does his money go? EVERYTHING (food, gasoline, housing) costs more in Europe, sometimes much more, so yes it is jealously.
skysoulmate 14 | 1,296
23 Feb 2011 #64
Skysoulmate on the other hand - well, he gets upset with my use of Polack and I get upset with his use of Communist and we're equal ;)

The communist ideology is the most vile and disgusting ideology on earth, many more people died due to communism than its sister ideology - the nazism. Both ideologies are as despicable as it gets and because of those ideologies millions of people were murdered, starved to death and were tortured to death. Anyone who claims the ideology was misunderstood or not executed properly, that the revolution wasn't run by the right people, etc. is a lunatic. An ideology that uses the term dictatorship, be it it by the proletariat or not, as a transitional process is a lunatic ideology.

The term Polack IS a slur and you know it. If you want to speak Polish than by all means do so, in that case the word is Polak, without the letter "C". However in English the proper term IS Pole or an American Pole, British Pole, etc. Polonia, the Polish diaspora, etc. are some other terms that are appropriate. Polack isn't one of them and you are well aware of that.
Eurola 4 | 1,909
23 Feb 2011 #65
My suggestion to skysoulmate and other peeople of American Polonia who feel hurt by comments of delphie is just to ignore him.

Most people ignore delphi or get angry with him. Anyway, he has a need to draw attention to himself by being disrespectful.

I don't give a **** about political agenda of Chicago Polonia.

well, maybe you should give a f**k and care more. Using f words make you a typical close-minded scared little person.

distrust between the American Poles and the British Poles.

never came across one until this forum. :)

it would seem unlikely that their political alliances have changed very much.

That was the case in the last century and the kids of peasants are 3rd, 4th generation Americans. The immigrants of late 70's and throught the 80's were highly educated. A huge loss for Poland.

Keep the **** out of Polish elections unless you live here, is my motto.

In all fairness, I agree with this statement.

There's nothing in-between. If you don't knock it off I'll start calling you a Russian ****** wannabe or whatever name I can find that's derogatory.

Nice try sky but you can not reason with russki born to immigrants in the west. I bet his life was much more miserable than the life of a kid born in America. He was kicked around plenty, hence the anger and a need for derogatory comments. He treats PF as his free therapy to vent his anger.

I wouldn't say that Poles don't like Poles in America, they just don't understand each other!

Exactly, and that's why they don't like each other. Of course, i don't mean each and everyone but most Polonuses tend to feel superior immediately after landing at O'Hare, not to mention the ones born here. Then they start to treat their little cousins in Poland like they don't know what's good for them (elections). That's what I see and the media doesn't help either.

I think that part of the problem is simply ignorance - if they're told all sorts of nonsense by their family

Why don't you apply this statement to yourself. What kind of stories your бабушка (babooshka) told you? lol.
skysoulmate 14 | 1,296
23 Feb 2011 #66
never came across one until this forum. :)

Agree!
Harry
23 Feb 2011 #67
EVERYTHING (food, gasoline, housing) costs more in Europe, sometimes much more, so yes it is jealously.

Yes, but some people didn't want to sell Poland out: some people stayed here (or even came here) knowing full well that they would make more money outside Poland. Some people put Poland before their personal interests, other people swear to attack Poland. And of course some people didn't need to worry about what would happen when their actions to assist the commie regime were found out about.

By the way: do you think you could try to make a post which does not contain personal insults?
k ...
23 Feb 2011 #68
many more people died due

and how many people died due to democratic socialism (for example in Sweden)?
skysoulmate 14 | 1,296
23 Feb 2011 #69
Sweden is not a socialistic country, it's a "blandekonomi" or a mixed economy. The majority of businesses are in private hands. The government owned portion is too large in my view however to use Sweden as a socialistic example is simply incorrect.

Why are you hiding in the non-member abyss?
k ...
23 Feb 2011 #70
I meant Social Democracy... oops ;)
skysoulmate 14 | 1,296
23 Feb 2011 #71
I knew what you meant and it's ok. However the comparison is very flawed.

Again, why don't you register?
k ...
23 Feb 2011 #72
I knew what you meant and it's ok. However the comparison is very flawed.

Really?
I know you was raised In Sweden and it seems that you are an avid supporter of the economic liberalism (am I wrong?) so I'd be really intrested in your point of view. Why's that?

Again, why don't you register?

because I don't want to. Do I have to? :)
skysoulmate 14 | 1,296
23 Feb 2011 #73
because I don't want to. Do I have to? :)

Not at all, just curious, that's all.

Really?
I know you was raised In Sweden and it seems that you are an avid supporter of the economic liberalism (am I wrong?) so I'd be really intrested in your point of view. Why's that?

I'm a fiscally conservative libertarian. Depending on which side of the pond you live on, the word "liberal" might mean somewhat different and even opposite things. Government should be very limited and health care certainly shouldn't be part of our government's responsibilities with the exception of tracking and eliminating the abuse. However, it's too late for me for yet another discussion. (3am now) Until next time. Good night.
k ...
23 Feb 2011 #74
Ok. Good night then :)
markskibniewski 3 | 200
14 Feb 2012 #75
So what? does it mean that the americans suddenly love each other?

Suddenly no but yes American are much more tolerant of one another than i the past. The 1991 cencus are you kidding... 20 years is a long time.

USA is the most segregated country in the world

Are you nuts. America is a melting pot. We are far from perfect and have learned from our mistakes fairly quickly being as young a country as we are. Seems like you are referring to the KKK, which has almost died by the wayside. You also forget that some of this "hate" that you describe was brought here from other countries as well. Almost all Latins hate Mexicans and back and forth.

Sadly, many of them are.

Well I think the point of this forum is to find out where and who we came from. Although admittedly this is not what goes on here.

I don't think it's even dislike, just mild irritation that they bang on about being Polish, yet can't speak Polish and don't do anything to help Poland.

Personelly I was on a quest to find out where I came from. I did. I am not sure how to take some of the posts here as most of the posters are not Polish but speak freely about what Poles feel. My relatives in Poland seem to be quite receptive of my queries and have on several occasions asked me to visit.
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
15 Feb 2012 #76
most of the posters are not Polish but speak freely about what Poles feel.

Remember Poland isn't just an ethnic homeland - it's a large European country which attracts immigrants from elsewhere in Europe. People who have settled here and are qualified and entitled to say how people feel.

My relatives in Poland seem to be quite receptive of my queries and have on several occasions asked me to visit.

You should. It is a land of surprises!
grubas 12 | 1,390
15 Feb 2012 #77
EVERYTHING (food, gasoline, housing) costs more in Europe, sometimes much more, so yes it is jealously.

WRONG!Wait till you get a ride in an ambulance and/or spend a few days in a hospital.But I agree that MOST of the stuff is cheaper in the US.
markskibniewski 3 | 200
15 Feb 2012 #78
Remember Poland isn't just an ethnic homeland.

I don't disagree with you JM ..it just seems that some of the posters are just depressed or manic when it comes to Poles who live in the Usa. I am American proud of it but I am proud also of where I came from. I am not up on Polish politics as I don't live there and personelly don't want to stick my nose in anyone elses buisness. I will visit Poland one day.

I will tell you an interesting story about my father'scousin who came to America and stayed with him in my grandfather's house for a short time. This occurred I believe in the early 60's. He worked with my father for just over six months, saved every penny he earned and bought a car. A Cadillac. It wasn't brand new but was an expensive nice looking vehicle. He shipped it back to Poland. It was impounded. The government official said he must have stolen it because there was no way he could earn that kind of money in the Usa. I am curious if this was a common?
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
15 Feb 2012 #79
The officials in those days (and sadly often since) sometimes saw their job as saying ''no'' in order to come to a discreet arrangement for saying ''yes''. Their rationale would be that anyone who could afford to ship a luxury car back should be good for a few hundred.
Nazigeorge
10 Nov 2015 #80
We need true full blooded Polelock to immigrate to America
losangelino
12 Dec 2016 #81
Pole is never used in America as pole has too many different connotations in the English language. Too many jokes can come from "pole".

I have NEVER come across what you say. I have always heard Pole. And I grew up in the US and lived here almost my entire life! Look in the dictionary.
lilpolishman
18 Dec 2019 #82
I was born in America and my g'parents were from what was Austria-Hungry. People who don't know me well would pass derogatory comments my way. That's fine with me and my family. 3 Masters, 6 B.A.'s, 2 corporations and qualified for Mensa and I will keep my net worth to myself. My large family of generations are mostly professionals or hold M.A.'s or Phd.'s. Dumb Pollock is not a slur, I embrace it and thank you for caring enough about me to evaluate my being. A slur can only be given by someone to whom I have given a position of supremacy. My g'parents, parents etc. didn't raise us that way. I do not grant to you that supremacy. Me and my entire extended generations will continue to strive the high accomplishments and stature that you indicate you have attained.
Lyzko 32 | 7,931
18 Dec 2019 #83
Dumb Polak jokes though, as with dumb Swede jokes etc. are by now surely a thing of the past! Poland, to a far greater degree of course Sweden, are both highly successful economies, societies and cultures which can draw upon a rich, contributive history. Anyone who a la Archie Bunker maintains otherwise, is simply an incorrigible ignoramus.
Miloslaw 12 | 3,341
19 Dec 2019 #84
Dumb Polak jokes

BTW that never happened in The UK.
We already had the Irish to mock.......
Lyzko 32 | 7,931
19 Dec 2019 #85
My response was actually directed at lilpolishman, but sadly, I too am well aware unfortunately of the tendency among many Brits, that is, English, to tease the Irish.

Go back and check out Dr. Johnson's definition of the potato in his well-known dictionary(:-

Stick to the topic of the thread please


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