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Poles and American Poles. What do you think about those two groups and their interactions.

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22 Sep 2010  #1

What do you think about those two groups and their interactions. Discuss.

An American Pole

American Pole

And Polak in America :

Pole in America

Poles in Poland

Pole in Poland
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23 Sep 2010  #2

Well, first off it's American polaks or polish person. Pole is never used in America as pole has too many different connotations in the English language. Too many jokes can come from "pole".
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23 Sep 2010  #3

What do you think about those two groups and their interactions.

the third one, of the the young and beautiful ones on the sunny beach... is that a 'subliminal' message? ;)
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23 Sep 2010  #4

Well, first off it's American polaks or polish person. Pole is never used in America as pole has too many different connotations in the English language. Too many jokes can come from "pole".

I have never heard the American media refer to Polish Americans as "American polaks". Honest to God.... NEVER. Where do you come of with this nonsense? I could only guess they did that back in the hey day of media bashing of Poles in the 60's and 70's along with their Hollywood/media "Polack jokes".

When they talked about the Polish people at the recent Adamek-Grant fight they called the Polish people "Polish people" basically. When they talk about Martha Stewart they refer to her as a "Polish American".

What bubble do you live in? I have no idea what you're talking about at times. You must live on the streets or something for you to keep using this street language about "polaks" or "Pollacks" in America. Or that anti-Polish jokes come from the word "pole". The degrading 60's and 70's media jokes against Poles came from the word "Polack" not "Poles" from what family members and friends have told me.

Even elements of the American media today that have little sympathy for Polish people don't call Polish people "Polaks" or "Polacks".

I would say 99% of the time American newspapers refer to Polish Americans AS "Polish Americans". They refer to Polish people in Poland as "Poles" and of course the term "Polish people" can be used to describe people of Polish ancestry in any country.

Even elements of the American media today that have little sympathy for Polish people don't call Polish people "Polaks" or "Polacks".
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23 Sep 2010  #5

Well, first off it's American polaks or polish person.

Well, thanks, I kind of translated an polish expression - and secondly, it should be american polak or American Polack, eventually Pollack.

the third one, of the the young and beautiful ones on the sunny beach... is that a 'subliminal' message? ;)

You are right, there are three groups actually - Poles in America, Poles in Poland and Polish Americans!

Even elements of the American media today that have little sympathy for Polish people don't call Polish people "Polaks" or "Polacks".

Thank you for your valuable input.
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23 Sep 2010  #6

Poles in Poland

how do you know they are Poles?
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23 Sep 2010  #7

Chinese in Poland then, gee it is off topic - do you want to contribute to this thread?
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24 Sep 2010  #8

Even elements of the American media today that have little sympathy for Polish people don't call Polish people "Polaks" or "Polacks".

your obsessions: "hollywood", "media" and "Polak".
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24 Sep 2010  #9

Obviously, they look different. I think I may be related to the dude in the second photo from the top :)
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24 Sep 2010  #10


I agree 100%
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24 Sep 2010  #11

You look like Taylor Swift. I think she has some Polish in her.

I don't look like that country music star. I don't like country music.
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24 Sep 2010  #12

Pole is never used in America

yeah it used... maybe not in chi town..

An American Pole

no, he's an american..
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26 Sep 2010  #13

no, he's an american..

What is your definition of an American Pole, then?
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26 Sep 2010  #14

maybe a Pole that has been naturalized.

Krzyzewski is an american.. he's not polish..
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26 Sep 2010  #15

Well, Pole in America like yourself is one but then if someone was born in US does it make him an American ?Sokrates is an American according to your definition, and what about American Poles who do feel associated with Poland because of their ancestors?
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26 Sep 2010  #16

Well, Pole in America like yourself is one

no, i'm a Pole only.. i am not an american

then if someone was born in US does it make him an American ?

of course

Sokrates is an American according to your definition,

and he is.. he has US citizenship if he wasn't fibbing about this,

American Poles who do feel associated with Poland because of their ancestors?

they are simply American.. i don't believe in - americans
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26 Sep 2010  #17

they are simply American.. i don't believe in - americans

So, they are only pretenders and there no such a thing like an American Pole?
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26 Sep 2010  #18

not really.. to me when you become a US citizen then you're American.. like i said, i don't care for hyphenated americans.. it's just divisive and just doesn't really seem right... i am all good with one's background however.. american of polish descent or and american of irish descent, i am all good with but no hyphens. :)
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26 Sep 2010  #19

Common stop lie to yourself...

USA is the most segregated country in the world. White hating black, blacks hating whites, whites hating jews in the south, then italians polish mexicans english puerto ricans etc etc hating each other.

So what does american really mean? it's just a word but in reality its all about your roots.
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26 Sep 2010  #20

White hating black, blacks hating whites,

???? Ermmm... psst.. a black dude is president of the US.
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26 Sep 2010  #21

So what? does it mean that the americans suddenly love each other?

Here is a little hint.

In May 1991, the Census Bureau reported that 57% of American families could not afford a median-priced home in the area in which they lived. This percentage disproportionately affects both African Americans and Hispanics who make-up 75% of these families. The discriminatory housing practices of federal and state governments, coupled with the tremendous rise in housing costs, have resulted in whites, blacks, Hispanics, and other minorities being increasingly isolated from each other. The 1990 census shows that 30% of African Americans live in neighborhoods which are 90% or more black, while the remaining percentage of African Americans still live in predominantly black areas. In fact, 62% of African Americans live in areas that are at least 60% black. As for the Hispanic population, 40% live in communities that are 60% or more Hispanic. While 86% of suburban whites, on the other hand, live in communities that are less than 1% black

law.fsu.edu/journals/landuse/vol141/seit.htm
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26 Sep 2010  #22

Here is a little hint.

Yep.. yep.. there's no racism whatsoever in Poland , right?? Neo Nazi? I just read an article about them.

You have no minorities in which to speak of.. have fun on your frickin' soap box, dude. When will a black guy be president of Poland? PM of England?

P.S. Your little snippet of the article only really proves that birds of feather flock together. What a revelation!! You are a jag off on here getting your jollies on ripping the US constantly. Pathetic really.
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26 Sep 2010  #23

Yep.. yep.. there's no racism whatsoever in Poland , right?? Neo Nazi? I just read an article about them.

I never claimed that Poland dosen't have it's problems, and yes the article was about a Neo Nazi that turned into a jew after discovering his jewish roots.

You have no minorities in which to speak of.. have fun on your frickin' soap box, dude. When will a black guy be president of Poland? PM of England?

Well shouldn't a country be run by it's own blood?

You are a jag off on here getting your jollies on ripping the US constantly. Pathetic really.

Im just expressing my opinions and i dont see many people here talking positively about Poland either :)
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26 Sep 2010  #24

Well shouldn't a country be run by it's own blood?

Hmm.. strange thought you knew so much about the US. Actually, Blacks comprise roughly 12% of the American population. And no, the country should be run by the best candidate for the job. He was the best candidate.

Im just expressing my opinions and i dont see many people here talking positively about Poland either :)

I do quite a bit.. typically American Poles. Not me so much because I get tired of people like you.
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26 Sep 2010  #25

Hmm.. strange thought you knew so much about the US. Actually, Blacks comprise roughly 12% of the American population. And no, the country should be run by the best candidate for the job. He was the best candidate.

Best? it's all about the money my little fellah :)

I do quite a bit.. typically American Poles. Not me so much because I get tired of people like you.

Go to sleep then!
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26 Sep 2010  #26

So uh, when I get my Polish passport, what should I call myself? American Pole or Polish American? You guys can't boggart all the names...
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27 Sep 2010  #27

So uh, when I get my Polish passport, what should I call myself

you can call yourself Rysiu !
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27 Sep 2010  #28

Nationality, citizenship, origin, identity... name it what you want. :-)

Everybody should call himself how he feels in this situation, no matter what others(organizations, government etc.) may have in mind.

What is f.e. Lucas Podolski? O.K., he's not American/American pole but I think the example in general is not too bad.
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22 Feb 2011  #29

What is f.e. Lucas Podolski? O.K., he's not American/American pole but I think the example in general is not too bad.

Well, that is easy he is a Pole.
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22 Feb 2011  #30

I have never heard the American media refer to Polish Americans as "American polaks". Honest to God.... NEVER

...and you never will. Chicago P is smoking crack. The term used in the media is Polish Americans and that is the only term you'll ever see. The word Polack is considered derogatory, sort of like the N word and the media will never use it. Ironically, it's become a derogatory term because of Polish American's complaints over the use of the word Polack.

USA is the most segregated country in the world. White hating black, blacks hating whites, whites hating jews in the south, then italians polish mexicans english puerto ricans etc etc hating each other.

Have you actually been to the US? Granted, racism exists here and everywhere else too for that matter but this "hating" you're talking about is perpetrated by a tiny minority of people and often highlighted by foreigners who despise america for different reasons and want to believe this nonsensical garbage just so they can feel better about themselves. Look in the mirror princess.

Amazing that a Russian who's writing on a Polish forum has opinions on racism in America. Russia, the country whose citizens throughout many centuries have murdered more people on earth than any other nation ever even "dreamed" of, wow.




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